My dd did the farris online conlaw course and it was with cd/books...is that what you are doing?

I think Hillsdale has all the science majors and is still on the smaller side- just starting to look at it now. K

below is the wiki piece about national vs regional. It is a valid question- but I do know that the gradautes (the Harris brothers attend PHC) go on to excellent colleges. PHC Moot/debate took several of the top places this past year. I do not think anyone would question the quality of the education, and it is not as easy to get in as it used to be- the standards are there. I think- but do not know- that the answer lies in perhaps the teacher firing controversy and their decision to keep teaching creation. Maybe that is making regional more difficult. if so, I am okay with that.................... Regionally accredited higher education institutions are predominantly academically oriented, non-profit institutions.[11][12][13] Nationally accredited schools are predominantly for-profit and offer vocational, career or technical programs.[11][12] Every college has the right to set standards and refuse to accept transfer credits.[14] However, if a student has gone to a nationally accredited school it may be particularly difficult to transfer credits (or even credit for a degree earned) if he or she then applies to a regionally accredited college.[12] A 2005 study by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) found that, in making decisions on credit transfer, about 84 percent of U.S. higher education institutions considered whether the sending institution is accredited, and many had policies stating that they would accept credits only from regionally accredited institutions.[15] About 63 percent of institutions told the GAO that they would accept credit from any regionally accredited institution, but only 14 percent similarly accepted credits from nationally accredited schools.[15] One reason given for regional institutions' reluctance to accept credits from nationally accredited institutions is that national accreditors have less stringent standards for criteria such as faculty qualifications and library resources.[15] Students who are planning to transfer credits from a nationally accredited school to a regionally accredited school are advised to ensure that the regionally accredited school will accept the credits before they enroll.[11][12][14] In general, the names of U.S. post-secondary institutions and their degree titles do not indicate whether the institution is accredited or the type of accreditation it holds. Rules on this topic vary from state to state. Regulations of the Tennessee Higher Education Commission require that post-secondary institutions in the state of Tennessee must be regionally accredited to use the word "university" in their names, and that a school lacking regional accreditation may not use the word "college" in its name without adding a qualifier such as "career", "vocational", "business", "technical", "art", "Bible", or "Christian". Tennessee rules also specify that only regionally accredited schools can issue "liberal arts" degrees or degree titles such as Associate of Arts or Science and Bachelor of Arts or Science.[16]

Anybody have any feedback for the college or online courses? Dd is looking at it closely. K

in? Iam trying to get a handle on guiding my daughter there is so much to consider. I started looking at collegeboard graduation rates and the percenatges were spread out over 6 years. Yikes! What do the number really mean? I imagine transfers as well as drop outs are a factor. Of course I want to help her make the best decision, but I did not plan on having it take six years. I am assuming this means you pay for two more full years?? This is a big factor then in price? How many really finish in four? Kathy

A search I know a while back some were going to try the program. Any feedback yet- how about transfering to college and how that went? Kathy

I Believe TPS uses Apologia as the text. We have taken the Chemistry through Red Wagon, and I believe he used to teach at TPS. You could call him (Steve Rosenoff) as he is a great resource. DD did Biology, Chemistry, advanced Bio and then next year for 12th will do physics. After some physics problems she encountered earlier, it was not a subject she was looking forward too. Chemistry is usually considered 10th grade. HTH, Kathy

The results are in and dd was sick with strep when she took it in May so we signed up for the June one. Orignally though our intention was to take SAT II in June, Biology & Literature as she is finishing A & P now. Her results are in and the scores are okay, just above average. her prelim tests suggested she would get around an 1800, and she got 1680. I know that is not high as many here are over 2000, but that is not us. Now I am wondering if she should try to take SAT in the fall and try to contact College Board to change next weeks test to SAT II. I am not sure that is possible though. DD is not up yet and she is quite burned out from a heavy course load this year and just wants it over. DD will be first generation college and so the whole thing is new to us. She will go to college, but sometimes is burned out and is unsure. Do others have kids who feel this way and are college bound? We have done more than fine without college, in fact better than many college friends we have. I know that it is different now though and am trying to encourage that. I am just not sure how to guide her. She is not looking at elite colleges, but wanted to do well. The thought of having to study all summer to retake SAT in October though is overwhelming. Kathy

I think it is all very interesting to see. I am trying to figure on the transcript what will be extracurricualr and what will be elective as I feel we need to have both. Electives, dd so far has done piano, fine arts, equine studies, home economics, trying to decide about 12th now for next year. ds has the same but woodworking instead of equine studies. I personally really enjoy the home economics as I require them as part of that to plan and prepare one large meal each week alone. The first time they end up with three pots on the stove simultaneoulsy they relaize what goes into cooking :001_smile:. Kathy

My daughter is taking creative writing with The Potter School, it is an upper high school level course. Kathy

The Potter School has an excellent online one. Kathy

Hmmm. may not have the answer you need, but my dd has horse passion as well.. I am not sure how old your dd is and if this is a class you are considering for the fall. Amazing your cc offers it! She sort of created her own equine studies program that I gave her a full credit for in high school using a variety of books that accomplished about what the course looks like it will. I think they difference is she has read/absorbed a lot of this information over the last three years as we became horse owners and have three on our property for which she does alomost all the work for. There is a lot to understanding a horse and horses are not healthy animals. And there are so many different approachs to training them it is a lot of info to take in one semester. We have tried many of them in our pursuit to train and have a healthy horse, thankfully we have that now but what an education it has been. You do not say if she is involved with horses, but if she is not, find a way to get her involved. We have kids/teens come to our place and find they "love" to see them and so have said they have always loved horses but the passion is not as they thought it would be when they touch them and meet them in person or realize the need and depth of care, feeding, mucking watering, brushing etc. Some even find they are too fearful and need to overcome that first and in the midst the passion falls away. There are volunteer places all around if price is an issue. Most farms/ranches you work for X hours and earn a free lesson. After these years and expereinces my dd has had training and working at several different ranches/styles/clinics etc and training/working her own horses that she has now found her own niche with her style. She too is struggling as a junior with the right path to take for college. There are apprenticeship programs with well know trainers throughout the country that you can apply to and she considered those as well as vet, vet tech, equine studies etc. She presently feels that if she does it as a business initally that is not best. We have a friend who is a vet tech at Tufts and the money is not great. Friend loves it so no matter but dd has visited and it was not a good fit for her. Seeing so many trainers who she loved at first but could eventually see how much they had to rely on selling themselves for the income to sustain the ranch/farm and that sometimes drove the care of the horses to be less than best. She rides and competes out of one ranch now on their horses (IEA) but now keeps herself from being consumed by it. Balance was learned the hard way.;) So now she feels she should pursue a career that would allow part-time work so that horse ranch would not be so driven for money, money, money. She did meet one trainer who did part-time nursing (nice money & benefits) and part time training horses. She liked the balance. DD followed this course through hs taking much preparedness for trying to get into nursing school- a small feat. Now ending her junior year with anatomy & phys, she feels she does not have the passion for nursing and does not want to go into it for the money. her grandmothers recent hospital visit and seeing the nurses and what they actually did everyday did not help. So she is currently looking at journalism as she loves to write. :tongue_smilie: It is so difficult to help and guide through it all- I have gone on too long but as it was horse related thought some of it may help. Kathy

Thanks for the answers thus far. She is taking the SAT at the local high school. I think I may have enterered that code on the application. Does it matter if it ends up being their code and not a homeschool code? Do we want to send scores or will they come to us first and then we choose who we want to send it to when we are ready? Kathy

Can someone tell me the homeschool code?? Thankfully she has a photo id from Cc hopefully that will suffice? K

We are registered and have admissions ticket printed. I know dd needs calc and #2 pencils but anything else she may need to have or perhaps "know" as far as filling things out etc? thanks, Kathy

Patrick Henry has online classes as well.:)

We attended a transfer event and our local CC has paired with WPI. You have to take certain very specific classes at the CC- but WPI will accept them all and you attend last two years there. A few of them you could still take third year at CC. I imagine other CC's offer these type programs as well, may be a good cost savings for us. K

Yes, your whole post just screams gap year.....it will be best for them all, she can wait and take ACT/SAT this fall and get her scores and apply on time after she researchs where her desrired major is with some realistic goals of where to apply, after taking a practice test. Maybe even applying some early decision this fall where the applciation is free. My daughter is taking a class at the local CC and in their paper this week was an article written by a student who took the gap year and just worked. It was not always easy as she did not have money to do a lot, but it did a lot for her in other ways, not just financial and she wrote how more students should consider it. It is not just for rich kids who can go do Outward Bound programs and the like. It can be a year of much maturity. I hope she considers this at it certainly looks like a good option for her. Kathy

Okay- so wait I wonder if she would be better off just taking a year of latin next year at home then- although I know some may not accept this- or has that changed?? Maybe I need to rethink if this is all in her best interest. She is looking at RN right now.:confused: Kathy

Hmmmmm, we are merely trying to satisfy the mandatory two years of same foreign language required here. It has been my understanding that one semester at cc will be looked at as one year of high school-hopefully that will work out for her. She may do a third semester spring of her senior year. She has not had any spanish at all- so hopefully she will do well, perhaps she should add looking over some spanish now to give her a head start, but her other classes are heavy so I hesitate to do this. Anyone have any recc. of what would be helpful and not too time consuming. Dd has extensive grammar skills and excels in english. She did Latin prep I and most of latin prep 2. Kathy

We have not done foreign language for a variety of reasons of which I will spare you. Dd is a junior and did do one year of latin. She is in three online classes this year and doing very well. My plan is to enroll her in Spanish 1 at the cc for spring semester and again fall of her senior year. One of her online classes is ending in February so that will lighten her load a bit. I guess it is too late to do much else besides this plan- but I wondered if anyone else has gone this road and have any thoughts. Thanks, Kathy

I see that this thread is quite old so I am not sure of the relevance, but we have used both Apologia Academy and Red Wagon. My dd likes Red Wagon much better-ds started at Red Wagon this year and is happy as well. However there are seveal teachers at AA - note that the science courses have been taught at AA by Mr Rosenoff (in the past) of Red Wagon. Finding the right "fit" for your dc is most important. Some kids respond to teaching styles differently. We find Mr Rosenoff to have passion and is a good lecturer. HTH, Kathy

Lauraine Snelling .......The Golden Fillie and Heartland....but they are both horse books :) Kathy

a love or hate of Steinbeck. My dd, 15 read it last year and absolutely loved it. She just loves the way he describes things, people and their personalities. In fact she is finishing Cannery Row now, just for fun because she loves Steinbeck. Some ps kids she knows were supposed to read Grapes last year, but just read cheat notes and not the book like they were supposed to. I have not read it, so I do not know, but can apprecaite that you eithier love his writings or hate them. I am glad she tried it, as she seems to have developed a want to try to get through some deeper literature since then. On the other hand, she has not been able to get through Pride and Prejudice yet because of boredom, but she struggled through the first half of Jane Eyre, and ended up loving it at the end, we had to see the movie. Perhaps I should be concerned she likes dark and depressing- though she is 15 and they do generally like drama right ;) Kathy

Has anyone used this course or gone to a camp? I see that if you area a member they have some free materials you can use for civics and government. The camp says you can list it as a full credit for civics/goverenment. Anyone have any expereince with it? Kathy