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I don't listen very often, but I always assume that the callers are looking for some tough love. They want to be told they are wrong. I suppose that appeals to some people, it's just not my cup of tea.
:iagree: I haven't listened to her in a decade, but I used to think that some people called when they wanted that final kick in the right direction. They sort of knew what they should do, but didn't want to have to do it. She's tough, she cuts to the chase, she doesn't coddle or sugar coat.
I heard her say once that if the caller wanted someone to agree with (them), (they) can call their friends.
They want the tough truth, so they call Dr. Laura when they're ready to face it.
Part of it is her schtick. Part of it is the medium of call-in radio, there are only a few minutes to cover the problem and solution, so it's going to be somewhat terse. It would be interesting to see what the results are. I'd bet that she's had a positive dramatic effective for a fair number of people.
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WHen you go places......do you bring homeschool books, lesson planners and/or catalogues with you? I always have some combination of that list along with my pencil box and a coil notebook incase I need to jot something down when I go out to places like that.
All. the. time.
Sometimes I don't look at any of it, but I get a surprising amount done overall. I always have a tote bag at the ready. :lol:
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I've never made it myself' date=' although this thread is making me think about it! I just have to add that my g-ma used to make it and freeze it- we would eat it still half-frozen. It was sooooooo good that way![/quote']
I remember watching my grandmother make it too. Yum.
For some reason, I thought it was a lot harder than it turned out to be! :lol:
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I do this all the time.
Peel, seed, dice, and throw into a big pot. Add some water (I don't even measure but never very much). Put a lid on it and cook.
You can cook it just until tender and your kids will think it is apple pie filling or you can cook it until you can mash it and make applesauce.
I usually just make enough to fill a quart jar, throw it in the fridge, and it's gone in a day or two. The kids eat it yogurt, applesauce, graham crackers, cream, etc.
I never add sugar.
Yes to all of this.
Ds and I made this a couple months ago. We used the old-style applesauce masher thing. It was great fun. So much sweeter than we expected, didn't even need sugar.
We were able to freeze some small pint containers that have kept well.
We used a healthy mix of orchard apples.
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Yes.
I understand that Joanne is in a place none of us ever want to be and where most never think they will ever be. But there are no guarantees. Women get screwed in child care and alimony every single day. She knows her own truth and situation.
Yes, Joanne is facing a unique set of circumstances. I remember way back when she and dh first started dating. :001_smile: I wish her good luck in balancing family, homeschooling and life -- this is a tough patch right now.
Perhaps I wasn't making my point very clearly. I've found that homeschooling families are actually among the most grounded that I know. Life doesn't revolve around a school/sports/activities schedule. Homework and projects don't dictate our lives. We have time to see folks at the nursing home, make lunches for the homeless, exercise, go to a museum on a slow day, sleep in, help out college students, volunteer for our church, our community, the environment, you name it.
The families that I thought of when I read OP are the ones with two working parents or one working/one sahp (not homeschooling) who race from one thing to the next and put a lot of focus of dc's activities, achievements, schools, wardrobe, electronics, etc. But that's who I thought of when I read that. Ymmv.
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I think there is wisdom in both men and women having careers/skills/education to fall back on since we never know what life will bring us. My dh's grandmother lost her husband when her children were still young and she had to get a career and get a job which was a godsend:)
Don't get me wrong. I wish that all marriages would work out but that is not always feasible or desirable and then there is always death and illness or job loss:(
I feel blessed to have married a saint;) I am glad to be at home, but I am also glad to a have a career to fall back on:)
Soooo much depends on the marriage, on the partnership in the marriage.
While he isn't a saint, my husband is a great guy. We went through very trying times a couple of years ago and it was tough, but we were fortunate to grow stronger through it.
:grouphug: to Carol and others who have had a tough experience.
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Oh, but can't it please be for me for awhile? I started working for my Dad when I was 8. I got a job outside the family when I was 14. I've never had more than 1 week off at a time until I was 40 and decided to stay home with my older. Can't I just stay home now and raise my kids? :)
I'd say you've earned it!
Enjoy them when they're these wonderful young ages!!! :001_smile:
A lot of this discussion also has to do with when the children arrive in a particular family. If you worked and travelled and had kids later, you may not need to be looking for outside work or fulfillment. Whereas, if you had kids young, you may be looking forward to some time with a career later. Or maybe you're juggling both. Lots of variables to consider.
Even though it sounded like OP's advice for all, I think it's really more of her own personal epiphany. Regrets, life lessons. Perhaps could've been worded more in that vein.
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Well said.
There is no way I'd tell a mother of infants and toddlers that she's not doing enough, it needs to be more. I get tired of society downplaying the role of the mother in children's lives. Everyone has a different situation, different needs, different temperaments. I think even if a woman has grown children and desires to stay home, why is that wrong? It's her life, she can choose what she wants to do, and should be able to without someone telling her she's not doing enough. I think depression often stems from other people's expectations and the perceived failure of reaching those expectations. I think that if a woman values her family and has the desire to be a mother and home maker, it should be encouraged and supported. Ministering to your family ≠ child worship.
That said, I do believe children should be educated to the end of being able to support themselves, girls and boys alike. The future can't be predicted, and even if my dd marries after college and becomes a home maker and mother, that's no guarantee she'll never have to seek outside work to support the family if there's a crisis.
Also very well said.
In my experience, many of the parents who really take the kid-focus to the extreme have been working parents. They can and do afford a lot of the over-the-top activities, camps, parties and things.
Many of the homeschoolers we know do many volunteer and service related things, either independently or in groups.
But you've said it better than I could, the reasons people homeschool are as diverse as the people themselves. I would never presume to tell them what they should be doing. And would definitely not say that what they were doing wasn't what was right for them, their children or their future.
One size just doesn't fit all.
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The orphanage our church helps (there's a team there now) is about 75 miles away from Port-au-Prince. They're gearing up to take in children from the destroyed orphanages. And they're stretched in their capacity already.
If anyone's interested in the link to help directly, please send me a pm.
Glad things are starting to come together for these poor orphans.
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Great post! If we were a military family, I wouldn't want any info, at all, to slip. We've all seen the WWII posters regarding letting information slip and have also seen examples of heavily edited V Mail. It makes sense that with so much public conversation nowadays that keeping quiet is even more important. Thanks for the education.
Thanks for this timely reminder.
It's so easy for us to become complacent and forget or be ignorant of the fact that evil people will work tirelessly to get to their evil ends.
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I've listed a bunch of stuff on the sale board, and someone has asked about feedback.
I've been on these boards since I first read the ORIGINAL WTM -- how long ago was it that it first came out?? Anyway, some people have obviously been burned in the past by bogus sellers/buyers. I understand the reluctance to trust someone with no feedback.
I have no feedback on these sale boards as most of my buying and selling was done on our old boards. Could somebody please vouch for me? Colleen? SWB???? Tammy? WTMindy? Beuller???? Anj??? (where'd she go anyway!!) Karenciavo????
HELP!
thanks :)
Here for 5 or 6 years now. Yep, DB in NJ's definitely an old-timer. A nice one.
Whoever needs to be trusting Donna should be fine, we'll vouch for her.
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I would probably tell him that if he "has to get it out of his system" to do that in his room away from the rest of the family and then when he is ready to start school, to come and join us.
This and Chris's idea to videotape sound good.
I've heard of folks pretending to do "real" school for a week. Dc have to get up at 6:30 am, dressed, breakfast, teeth, coats, backpack and at the local bus stop, regardless of weather by 7:30 am (or whatever's your local time) each day.
Then they come back home and get ready for your school day. It might give him a new perspective on what he's got.
Some folks go so far as to really model a day or two like this, very rigid schedule, request for bathroom breaks, homework, etc.
I remind dc here at times of things they wouldn't get away with in public school, like snacks at 10 am, etc. Ds was on the phone last night with a friend and surprised that he was doing homework at 7pm (grade school).
Good luck.
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:lol: Sorry, from a quick read through the list, this looked like kids going to the pub during school time.....
like instead of lunch. Ackk.
I should add, I've heard of kids being able to take advantage of music, arts, sports, band and similar activities. I don't know about core subjects, I would agree with DER that it would no doubt depend on the school system in question.
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My kids love audio books, and we borrow them often from the library. I also own many of the Jim Weiss Cd's. I would like to stock up on more for our move (10 day drive across the country). I am ordering the remain Jim Wiess one's I don't already own, but am looking for suggestions for other titles that are worth owning. The Jim Wiess one's we listen to over and over so they are worth the investment. Are there any titles of audio books that your family has listened to repeatedly and would be a good title to add to our home collection?
The Narnia series is wonderful. There's a radio theater version by Focus on the Family, I think. There are also the individual books by famous actors (Branagh, Stewart, Jacoby....) unabridged and well-done.
Little House on the Prairie series was good for car trips. The Magic Treehouse series comes in 8-book sets, even though you know the mystery after the first time, dc here have listened to them several times. Hank the Cowdog series is good.
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Anyone have one? What do you like about it? What do you not like about it? Why did you get that particular breed and not another?
We had an Australian Cattledog/Blue Heeler mutt. Mutt because the tail curled a bit and she was slightly lighter in build than that breed purebred. The breed nips at the heels of cattle it's herding.
The Aussie Shepherd, I believe, is actually an American breed. Pretty little dog similar to a sheltie. Good-natured, I've heard.
The heeler is short-haired but mixed with a shepherd would probably give you a longer-haired dog.
Our dog was great, very high-energy, high-spirited. She was very patient with children, even when she was pretty old -- they could crawl up over her, fall on her, pull her hair and she'd just look at them. She was funny and smart. You see this breed on Letterman doing frisbee tricks, they're often in those frisbee-catching competitions. We wished we had a few animals for her to herd.
The downsides would be that all that energy has to be channeled. We walked a lot. Our dog was strong-willed too. She liked to get outside and race around for hours.
We adopted ours from a shelter.
If the heeler breed is mixed with the shepherd breed, it might mellow the energy a bit, but I think they're both herding dogs and those usually need more exercise and like a "job." They're also very loyal.
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I am from Canada, so, yes, I spoke English when I came here. My dh is from France .......
In short, for those who missed my reply, I am in the "round 'em up and deport 'em" camp. If this country would just ENFORCE the laws already in place (and get rid of the terrible 'have a baby, and it's a citizen' law), we would avoid much of the debate on assistance, school eligibility and what to do if/when someone IS set to be deported, but has an anchor baby. Harsh, I know, but it's the fault of the parents, NOT this country. We do need to educate (through high school) and vaccinate, etc. those who are here, but if we deported them it wouldn't be an issue. I HATE that my taxes are paying for illegals' education and health care while many of us here legally 'get the shaft' because of programs in place to help 'them'.
My dh and I are both naturalized citizens and we 'did our time' waiting for paperwork to be completed.... 5 years of paperwork waiting for me and 9 for dh. This is a VERY hot topic for me and I am SO annoyed that our elected officials are not enforcing the laws as they stand. We did the right thing, and it p*isses us off that those who don't are getting a 'blind eye' from the gov. and being allowed to continue living here.
Where I am, we have mostly Mexican illegals with some from African nations thrown in (they come by the hundreds on a work visa to work at a local company then leave and the gov't has no clue where they are). The whole system needs to be revamped. The more this goes on, and the more I hear of 'special programs' funded by MY tax dollars, the more angry I get. Very angry.
This is a pet peeve for me too. How do we justify this lax attitude when many people are following our laws and waiting their turn? And what does it say about following our laws period when the reason "you're" here at all is because you came illegally?
The previous amnesty DID NOT work, there are more people breaking our immigration laws than ever before. With no consequences, there's no deterrence. Anyone who's been through the process or who lives in the southern and border states is more keenly aware of what a mess this ridiculous situation is.
And I would argue that the attitude isn't harsh, it's realistic. The lack of any real policy here opens these folks up to all kinds of injustice at the hands of opportunistic crooks -- employers, landlords, money lenders/ informal "neighborhood" banks, medical access, even simple everyday stuff, you name it.
When people come here as illegal aliens their lives are always insecure .... whether they live in fear of being found out and deported, whether they don't have access to the services and life that legal residents have, whether they never achieve the level of success that illegal status prevents them from attaining or even being aware of .... There's nothing compassionate or fair in consigning people to that kind of existence and amnesty is not the answer.
If for nothing else, the laws need to be enforced.
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It is one thing for the child to bear criminal responsibility for their parents actions. However, it is quite another to give a child benefits that he or she does not rightfully deserve.
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She has a couple more years in her school program, but the government didn't care. She was in out of country only 2 days short of the requirements for extending her student visa and she was about to be arrested.
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The only reason why I mention this is to point out that the US is expected to extend more grace its illegal immigrants than any other country.
This is SO true. The US is expected to put up with all this while other countries have very stringent, xenophilic policies in place. In most countries, your child doesn't become a citizen just because you happened to give birth within their borders. Here in the US, we grant citizenship and then the parents are here, the siblings, the extended family .... ??? For the simple geography of giving birth.
The amnesty program back in the 80s didn't eliminate the problem. All the social programs in place haven't eliminated the problem.
And the problem, as I see it, is that without some sort of legitimate status (visa, going through legal steps) these folks are subject to victimization wrt housing, employment, finances, medical care, education, their very security of living -- largely because they are reluctant to be very visible in our society. In addition, they have access to resources that are already stretched thin for legal citizens. The old canard that illegal immigrants are taking the jobs that no one wants is not true, as has been shown time and again.
It's unsustainable. How do you justify this to the people who are abiding our laws, waiting in line and going the legal route? What does this say to these folks about how important it is to obey the law once they're living here. Most illegal immigrants are decent, hard-working people.
But how do we deal with those who aren't? More and more, we are seeing traffic deaths due to illegally obtained drivers' licenses. There are out-of-control gangs, like mara salvatruca. Their victims are not just fellow gang members, but innocent Americans. A good portion of the sex-trafficking is done by illegal organized crime members from various countries. Evil people prey on folks who are so desperate to come here that they will pay dearly to come illegally. Perhaps lax and ambiguous policies contribute to that, leaving a glimmer of hope for the possibility that it's worth whatever it takes. My heart breaks for those poor young girls and their families who believe that even though it's being done illegally, that it'll work out somehow.
And now there's a movement to put everyone on the voters' rolls if their names are on any lists, drivers' licenses, you name it.
But OP is talking about education. I agree with a couple folks here who've said that if the student is old enough and bright enough to attend college, then they should do it legally and honestly.
Otherwise, really, what does it all mean? Individual stories are heart-wrenching in their details of why they left, what they've overcome. But the aggregate on a national scale is unsustainable and will continue to be so if we don't do something. Another amnesty is not the answer. People coming in whether on tankers or makeshift boats or through tunnels or smuggled in, overstaying visas, getting day-passes to give birth in an American hospital, whatever, need to be sent home immediately, not detained and just released into the US.
What we need to realize is that there is no kindness in the current lax attitudes in illegal immigrant policies. The very people that are supposedly helped and the very ones who suffer the most.
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Oh...anecdote to reporters is not "said offhand to someone"
Sheesh. Duh.
Not surprising. The "you can smell 'em coming" comment about tourists last year was made during the opening ceremony of the visitor's center to the Capitol Building, in front of a microphone. He prefaced the comment by saying, "my aides told me not to say this, but...."
So it does show a certain disregard of his for average Americans. I guess his constituents can decide what that means for them.
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I agree with Sis, I think Reid was saying America is dumb and racist.
:iagree: But it's hardly surprising from him.....
Last year he said that we all stink. When the tourists come to visit the Capitol, he can smell us coming because it's hot and humid. :tongue_smilie:
I think Mr. Reid has a history like VP Biden, he tends to put his foot in his mouth, saying things that are ill-advised, poorly worded or just flat-out stupid.
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Well, it's a just a bit too hot here for me anyways. :D
Given your location, I doubt that's going to change any time soon. ;)
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I know. It's hot, it's cold, it's hot again. Seems like a pattern. Could they just pick a scare tactic and stick with it?????:lol:
I remember this from when I was young -- we were entering an ice age and they wondered how long it would be before it effected humans significantly.
There was even a plan to take soot to spread over the ice caps and glaciers to keep them melting at a regular rate.
Guess we have to face facts -- we humans aren't quite as powerful as we thought we were, either for good or evil! :001_huh:
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:hurray::hurray::hurray::iagree: Awesome post!! So very true. No need to go any further. God bless America!!!!!!!!!! :D
Well done! Absolutely awesome!
Thanks. :thumbup1: :cheers2:
Like your sig line too. Ain't that the truth -- A little perspective is an amazing thing.
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I expect developing countries to have chaotic roads - it's just part of development. I wasn't expecting it in California though.
Laura
Actually, I was thinking that you were lucky, especially if in SoCal, not to be in a 5 mph crawl for miles upon miles.
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actually, the cowboys and jets won't meet in the playoffs unless they both get to the superbowl... different conferences!
Sorry, it's all about the strategy. Iow, the Cowboys have served their purpose, no offense. :lol:
DH decided two years ago that the Jets were his 'new' team -- so it is all about the J-E-T-S here -- lots of green and white. .......And if you want to talk AGE, I've been routing for Dallas since Tom Landry was the coach.
Can you say Joe Namath, I still remember.Well, gotta admit that I remember good ol' Tom (and Bear Bryant too, for that matter) and I remember when Broadway Joe made a sensation for his "layout."
And I was a huge fan of the Steel Curtain. Back in the day, just sayin. Enjoy your applesauce, Mariann.
Question based on recent posts: Do you think revisionist history is bad?
in General Education Discussion Board
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Yes. Agree with your distinctions here, which are important.
The pejorative "revisionist" which some current historical writing has done is putting our modern perspective and sensibilities on events and people that are centuries old.
Transplanted to those times, WE would be different also. We would think and feel and perceive things from our life and times, our education or lack thereof. Just as someone from the 1600s, say, would be totally perplexed by some of our assumptions and actions.
Trying to "influence" history from too biased a perspective is disingenuous.
Hollywood is particularly adept at this.