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I LOVE this movie. I watch it every chance I get. I don't think the dance scene is exploring whether or not Olive's dancing is appropriate, or is commentary on beauty pageants. I think the major themes his about winning/losing. Olive loses the beauty pageant, but the whole family ultimately wins, when together they find unity in the absurdity of the situation.
and now back booing and hissing at this sad atrocity
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Apparently the parents have defended the costumes by pointing out that bikinis the girls wear to the beach are skimpier than what they wore here. They also didn't feel the dance moves were that bad.
(Didn't see the parents being interviewed directly.)
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But the whole point of the dance routine was that is was wildly inappropriate.
I know.
But wasn't it also trying to say that the little girl's inappropriateness was less inappropriate and more acceptable in a defiant kind of way than the little pageant barbie-doll-wannabes?
Either way, the mini-adult look of that video reminded me of the movie.
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Anything for fame. Really sad!
Bingo. Ends justify the means, even if it's dressing up your 7 yo in a burlesque outfit.
It reminds me of the movie Little Miss Sunshine that people raved about. Parts were funny but the dance routine created by the foul-mouthed Grandpa was just sad and inappropriate for a little girl. I get that they were making fun of the whole little-girl pageant industry making girls into tiny barbies but ....
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:001_huh:
Yeah, because all the black girls are named Latrina and Candida, obviously, and worthy of nasty commentary.How about Candy Suggars?
Star Slick?
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My dh was listening to a radio sports-talk show once & the dense host was being snarky about getting an e-mail from Jesus. Obviously, he didn't live in a very Hispanic area since he didn't know that's a very common man's name (pronounced Hay-Zeus.)
Or grow up in the hey-day of the Alou brothers, Manny, Mattie and Jesus, IIRC.
:001_rolleyes:
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If you feel like typing out your thoughts, so as to collect them, feel free to send them to me in a pm!
I'm a lazy geek, who'd like to live vicariously through you. ;)
I'd welcome a pm too. I've read parts of Gatto's works. :001_smile:
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:grouphug: and a prayer.
I know just how you feel. I love the w.h. auden poem that addresses just these feelings....that time and activity should stop to acknowledge this passing.
Peace to you and your family.
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This is why you don't want peonies next to your house!
And also why when you bring the blooms inside to enjoy you will inevitably also bring in an ant or two.
Peonies are defintely worth the ants!
As an adult, I love peonies. But when I was a kid, they creeped me out with the ants all over the buds! My mother had a whole row of them.
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My dd is just about to graduate and commission with the first batch of women chosen for subs (she had no interest). The general feeling is that these women are not trying to prove something; they just want to work in a very technical environment. Believe me, they know what they are getting into--they have lived through the pressure cooker of USNA and have spent time on subs already--just no one has acknowledged that. The screening process was brutal. I think it's going to work out.
Wow, congratulations. There are a few designations in the Navy that are considered super-smart and the sub community is certainly one of them. Hope your dd has a great career, whether she goes with subs or not.
Getting into the first job with the enlisted sailors and day-to-day operations will be among the challenges. Subs present very unique challenges because their mission and requirements are unique within the Navy. For the sake of security (first, the crews involved) and the Navy, I too hope that this change goes well. And if it's not going to work, I hope the PTB will have the guts to revisit the decision.
Congrats on your grad.
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I agree with all of the above.
I agree with this, except I would say that the attacks against the US by Islamic extremists started with the embassy bombings in 1998. That is when the US military realized there was a war being waged against us. That is when things started to change. I guess one could even make an argument for Mogadishu, but that's not what changed the military.
Or with the World Trade Center parking garage bombing in '93, actually. That was like a test-run, if you will.
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There are Muslims who denounce terrorists. There are Americans who sympathize with the guy who flew into the IRS building in Austin.
Hi Ms. M. I didn't say they weren't [denouncing]. Haven't heard any support for the guy who flew his plane in the building....but I don't live in TX.
I think the difference is in the amount of money that is being used to fund terrorist activities. It's a lot of money, and weapons of all kinds can be had from former Russian states for cheap. It has created an extremely dangerous situation for the world.
Besides funding and munitions, I was referring to organized radical groups and schools that are working in a concerted way to train and equip radical jihadists....worldwide. I imagine we would be surprised if we knew the actual numbers involved.
But for OP's Q, I was mentioning it in context of the scope of world history over known time. Kwim?
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Terrorism is just today's news. I try to teach a bigger view of history. There have been thousands of acts of violence committed by all kinds of religions. There still are all kinds of thugs, dictators and lunatics all over the world committing horrific acts of violence but right now what pops to the top of most news source radar is Muslim terrorism. It is just one more era in a fairly violent world history. We wait until the kids are a little older to talk about the details of wars and destruction and it pretty much comes up in any history curriculum we use. We wait until nearly highschool to do in depth studies of the two world wars because there was a lot of really ugly stuff going on then, for example. We have mostly used SOTW and it gives a pretty big picture view of the sweep of world history without getting too detailed about specific acts of violence.
........ about how those trends get started and how people get drawn in to and caught up in them. A study of the follow herd mentality more than the specific event.
Yes. Mine are younger so we haven't covered much of the 20th century yet. Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, and on and on. Hundreds of millions of people dead from the leadership of these few men.
But we have covered much of the ancient and medieval worlds. They understand that part of this is the human condition.....wanting territory, power, people....and the ebb and flow that "naturally" occurs because of it.
I teach my children that fundamentalism, fanatacism, and extremism of all kinds often lead to violence.We are atheists. A lot of my fellow atheists like to point out all the evil done in the name of religion throughout history. What about Stalin? I say. It's not religion in general nor a specific religion that is the cause of evil. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Yes, without horrific details, we also discuss the victimization of people by evil leaders that force them or coerce them to actions they wouldn't take otherwise (a couple recent: grade-school age martyrs for Palestinians, and women suicide bombers that are raped and disgraced so that they have nothing else but to die).
Are you familiar with Ireland? Christian v. Christian?Peru? Shining Path? Maoist.
Sri Lanka? LTTE? Nationalist
Spain? Basque separatists? Nationalist
Uganda's LRA is a guerilla organization which also perpetrates acts of terror though they tend to stick to Ugandans.... They're very Christian.
I'm an atheist and I teach that much evil has been perpetrated by followers of many religions.
I also teach history - ancient and modern.
And I teach that it's sometimes very hard to tell a terrorist from a freedom fighter. Were Nicaraguan Contras terrorists or freedom fighters?
These Ugandans are "christian" about as much as Hitler might've claimed to be. There are very fundamental differences between Islam and Christianity but I know that many mainstream Muslims are chagrined by the acts of the radical jihadists, which should be denounced just as Christians denounce the acts of a few violent religious fanatics. The difference currently, I think, is that for Muslims there is a concerted effort in groups around the world to organize, fund and execute their radical plans.
But for OP, taught in the ebb and flow of history, evil must be confronted and resisted wherever it is found.
eta: I try to stay current so that I can answer questions. We have a variety of friends so this helps dc see people for their character and individuality first.
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Overheard one of the boys in the dugout the other night, "I had a dream about Lady Gaga." :blink: These kids are 8 and 9!
Kids hear things everywhere. I've learned that it's got little/nothing to do with race, class, income level or education level (of family), church or religious affiliation or geographic location. This goes for good and bad, often the opposite of what you might "expect."
Some days you just go :001_huh:
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So then does mean that your kids all do poorly on Science and SS parts of standardized tests ...?
My husband has been concerned that we're not "doing enough" and "not keeping up," and says he would be reassured by good scores on standardized tests.
If the standardized tests are really like this ... well, we are IN TROUBLE!!
These tests reflect the curriculum in the schools and the state scope and sequence.
My dc have always done the whole tests (since testing was required from grade 2) because they've wanted to do the portions beyond the lang./math.
Your dd will probably do just fine. Mine have. Much of what's on it is very standard -- body parts, general geography, bits of basic physics and earth sciences, government, maps, reference materials (like alpha order in dict.). In fact, you'll probably be surprised by what she's picked up by osmosis or the connections she makes from things she's already learned.
Dh here was much more reassured about homeschooling when the test results came back just fine. It wasn't that he doubted my ability, more that he wanted to make sure ds was doing ok.
Part of why we would do testing even if it weren't required is so that dc get used to testing and the skills needed to get through them. Dc don't do tests during our normal homeschooling but the PSATs/SATs will be looming before long and those would be tough tests to start with....:tongue_smilie:
Just try to make the whole experience as comfortable as possible. And good luck!
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Wow, coming from the state that was willing to go to war to keep the federal gov't from telling it what to do, this is shocking.
Daily monitoring of homeschool students? Hope y'all can defeat this one.
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Marley and Me was like that for us. Dh and I both hated that movie.
I also felt that way a bit after Blind Side. I expected more conflict, less predictability.
I'm reading the book Blind Side right now. Lewis is a good writer and I knew there was more to the story. Of course they Hollywoodized it.
Dh and I really appreciated a decent movie for once. :001_smile:
eta: Meant to add, you're right, the Hollywood version is very linear.
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I hate movies that romanticize adultery. Can't think of any off-hand, but there are so many! I am also bugged by premarital sex--like it's no big deal to have sex, it's just recreation and expected.
IDK--I'm such a fuddy duddy when it comes to relationships.
I'm becoming more fuddy duddy in my old age too.
Up in the Air and Atonement recently.
Four Weddings and a Funeral. When it first came out, we thought it was fun. And I loved the WH Auden poem. When I saw it again about a year ago, I was so turned off. Andie McDowell's character (besides the fact that the poor girl just can. not. act) is an amoral jerk.
Anything Nicholas Sparks, Tom Cruise, Jim Carrey, Renee Zellweger (mostly).
Accidentally saw He's just not that into You, Knocked Up. :tongue_smilie:
Dh and I are renting those funny old movies like Jason and the Argonauts to show the boys, Michelle.
The Blind Side was great.
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Totally cool. Where were you?
I just have to squeal and show you all this... you'll get it!
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Oh my, I'm in the same situation here - most of the local homeschoolers we've met are unschoolers (and very, very relaxed unschoolers at that) & are quite vocal & almost pushy about the "superiority" of their method. Any new homeschoolers that join the group are set upon immediately as potential converts. In fact, we've only been on one outing with them because of this (when they found out that we actually use curriculum, they just clucked about how "new" I was at this, LOL).
This has been my experience several times. One mom proudly announced how inclusive her group was .... right before she pounced on several people who used curriculum.
Fortunately, most of the time we mix and match with all kinds of homeschoolers. We don't "segregate" based on philosophy or religion, but we do back away from a group or individuals who are aggressively promoting their agenda with little to no regard for our ability to freely choose what works for our family. :001_huh:
:lol: at the similarity with dc. Mine might be voting for the all-day-video curriculum too, if the option existed.
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when mentioning to credentialed educators that we home school. Anyone else ever feel this way? I feel irrationally guilty and don't want to hurt their feelings, devalue their education, skills, etc. Please tell me I'll "grow out of this". :001_unsure:
To some degree, you'll probably always have a bit of this. I do.
Educators are invested in the system of education and you're outside that. It's natural that they're a bit wary (if not downright dismissive) of your choices. It's natural for you (and any of us) to feel a bit naked out on our own.
If you're newer to homeschooling, you will grow in understanding and confidence as the years roll by (hopefully). But you will have periods of self-doubt when your dc hit new levels or subjects that are a challenge. The relationship with your students evolves as they mature and become more independent. Curriculum choices are constantly expanding and confronting us with more options. Then there are the extra-curriculars.... We who choose to home-educate are actually very well-versed in education because we have to be to keep up.
I try to be matter-of-fact about our choices without being confrontational. When people, particularly educators, are curious in a genuine way, I try to give them information about what works *for us* without challenging their livelihood. If the information resonates with them to give a more positive take on homeschooling, all good.
But I do recognize that my choice to not use their system is, in a way, a challenge to the system they're invested in. So it's understandable that they will not be overly fond of my choice.
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:lol: They're having fun with the stats!
I liked Tim's comment about the "best outfield play in the 17th inning that he's ever seen." :lol:
Who are you routing for?
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"Studies have shown" that the sports that middle class males keep up into middle age and beyond are paddle and ball with a partner. Tennis, squash, etc. That's what we are stressing for kiddo. (And swimming and hiking and skiing and kayaking.)
I agree with taking a long view. Dh and I decided when kids were wee that we wanted to make sure they knew how to swim, golf and play tennis. Just the basic skills and rules of the game so if they had a date or a business outing or the urge to play, they would have something to work with. We see these three sports as ones that you can easily play into old age.
We've since added skiing to that.
Other sports were optional. When they've been interested, we've signed them up and they've tried "it" for a season, a lesson, whatever. So far, they've learned golf, swimming (including some competitive), ice skating, roller skating and rollerblading, skiing, basketball, baseball, and a little of volleyball, ultimate frisbee (!), hockey and flag football. But if it's a team sport, we sign up for the season -- it's only fair to the team.
Right now they're loving the team sports. They've gotten to the level that the trophies they get are earned and they are good players. They aren't the best on their teams and they may decide in the next few years that they've had enough but it's been cool to watch them work hard at something and see the results. It's been nice for them to be on a team that pulls together and achieves a shared goal. It's been interesting to see them develop self-discipline and self-control, to remain calm under pressure, shake off the errors or bad calls, console a disappointed teammate, become a team leader, celebrate with their mates, challenge themselves physically.
Alley, you asked for help in your decision -- those are some additional thoughts I've had about it. It didn't sound like your ds doesn't want to do any of it, just that he doesn't care for the boring practices. The above is some of what we've seen develop in the last few years with team sports. You and dh decide what's best for your family, but I don't think it has to be slavish devotion to an all-consuming team sport .... or nothing. You can find the middle ground.
Sometimes with homeschooling they don't have much competition in their lives so it's good for them to experience it.
But at 7 they aren't so keen on the practices, especially if they're boring.
Good luck. :001_smile:
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LOL! I was typing while you posted. I have similar thoughts...
:lol: great minds!
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Sadly it seems so.
NBC cancels Law & Order!!!
in General Education Discussion Board
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Dh and I have been watching since the beginning, loved that theme music! We also watch SVU but never got into CI. That said, it's been pretty lame the last few years -- we still like the actors but the heavy message and telegraphing the bad guys had to effect their ratings. It got redundant and wearisome.
But it's been great fun. Really liked when Jerry Orbach, Jill Hennessey and Carey Lowell were on, when "Adam Schiff" and Fred Thompson growled around. More recently, missing Sam Waterson and Jesse Martin.