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Each year more states will allow it. It is inevitable because it is right and it is just.
I thought we weren't going here in this thread.
No flames, please. I don't want to discuss whether it's right or wrong. I just want to understand what is behind this theory. -
We were just gifted 2 games that we already own, so I am going to return them and get something else. Our kids are 9, almost 8 and 5 (a VERY early reader), so I am looking for ideas that all of us can play and yet not be too annoying for mom and dad.
Dc just got In a Pickle for Christmas. It's a card game that's played on a table -- size relationships of various nouns (a chair is bigger than a pillow but smaller than a house) with single noun words on each card. We all enjoyed it. More interesting than it probably sounds.
There's also the Apples to Apples game. I'd get Jr. for your age dc, some of the people and concepts are rather mature for little ones.
Other games listed here are great too.
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I don't know about either of those, but my son attended the music camp at St. Olaf this last summer, and loved it. I heard the words "awesome!" and "St. Olaf" about a million times a day for weeks afterward. He took individual classes in conducting, theory and composition. There were other classes available to choose from, as well. It was only a week-long camp -- I know there are longer ones -- but we wanted him to be able to check out the school, so we had other motives. :D
Is Michigan too far west? Interlochen is the premier camp, six weeks, I think:
I work in the music department at a college (but on the west coast), and will ask around.
ETA: Looks like there is a percussion institute at Interlochen. (Spendy!)
Another vote for Interlochen. My cousins went several summers there. Another friend's dc went there more recently. IIRC, mostly string instruments.
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Hey, this is a great idea! Each day I will write the item pitched on the square of my day-timer, there's room.
That will keep me on track for my decluttering, plus it will keep me referring to my day-timer.... I have a habit of setting it up and then forgetting to refer to it :glare:. One of my resolutions this year is to stay more on top of that. This plan should help!
I'm in and this is a good idea too, Auntie M.
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I think he'd appreciate it more if you wait until he's older.
I think it's a great read for ages 10 and up.
I read the series for the first time when I was around 12 and have been a Tolkien fan ever since.
:iagree: I think I found this when I was about 13 and devoured the Hobbit. Then I was thrilled to learn that there was the Lord of the Rings series to follow. I read through the series another couple times in my teens.
There is so much wonderful fiction available to younger grade school age kids that's much easier for them to relate to and digest than the more complex themes, language and writing of Tolkien. I've decided that even if ds here is able to tackle something like this, I'd rather encourage him toward something more age-appropriate and save such a wonderful series til he's older and able to really appreciate it.
Along the same lines, we avoid using abridged versions of classic stories done specifically for younger kids (although we have used a few Jim Weiss ones for Shakespeare). It just seems to me that it takes away some of the delight of discovery they have if they already have the whole plot and ending revealed before they even pick up the book.
But, as always, ymmv.
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I may have to try this, if only for comic relief. New Year's is tomorrow, I should have a chance to try.
:lol: Let us know! :lol:
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Predators are good at the "accidental touch" - the kind of touch which can and does happen at times innocently. Except for them it isn't innocent. Sometimes it is too long or becomes a grab. Always it gratifies something in the perpetrator - sometimes a sexual gratification but often one of power. These "accidental" touches hurt people. Sometimes subconsciously. Sometimes because like in this incident, the victim feels powerless. Sometimes it is because it (in the mind of the perpetrator) gives him/her permission to do more overt abuse.
Ways I've combated the "accidental touch" -
the grab and pinch: this works well in over-crowded Japanese trains and buses. Grab the offending hand and pinch or twist really hard. The perpetrator can't scream without giving himself away.
the loud "innocent" exclamation: this "accidental" reaction, when done with an air of total cluelessness and no blame, can bring attention the the offender without making him the bad guy. Useful for when the bad guy has power and can't be confronted directly.
the hiss: take the offender aside and hiss some rather pointed promises in his direction of the "if you ever do this again". . . "and I know your wife's phone number. . ." variety.
the avoidance dance: sometimes it really is easier to keep that table or chair between you or to be too busy to ever be alone with the person.
I prefer the straightforward going to H.R. approach and have done that on one occasion but unfortunately that often is not effective.
These are excellent! I've used a couple myself. I like the hiss, Jean, (haven't used it) even just the sound itself would be effective.
Ime, these are much more effective with the "accidental touch" kinda guy than an outright harasser. More laws won't do it because it's so random and rather "light" on the spectrum of harassment. No disrespect -- it's creepy and demeaning and shocking. But it is different than the boss who is threatening your job, trying to get you in a compromising position.
If it happens again, I'd have one of these in mind, Joanne...and just loud enough that those nearby would notice. Surprise, shock, scolding, along those lines. Let him know to keep hands off without humiliating him.
Of course the more liquor involved (ime) the more likely it is that he might try it. :glare:
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If you travel in Greece, speaking Greek, you will have the Greek people at your feet.
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So true.
Besides the fact that study of those two languages is at the core of a truly classical education, there are just so many benefits for dc. The ancient languages open the door for many modern languages, science and medical terminology, grammar, you name it.
I agree with Michelle too, there's something deeper and more significant in the study of it, a logic and beauty that are good to expose your children to, to challenge them with.
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If I see one more dom cruising the women's underwear department at Walmart's I think I'm going to call him on it. Creeps.
I mean really, the last place I want to be in Walmart is looking at men's underwear.
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Dsis and I used that -- DOM -- for certain guys when we were lifeguards.
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Or if not locking older threads (because I do see the benefit to sometimes pulling up older threads), maybe having a box to click asking "Are you sure you want to reply to this thread when the last post was XX months ago?"
I like being able to go back and see old threads or search for wisdom that I remember being buried way back there, especially for as fast as these boards move.
It's definitely weird to see something "reborn" that's been gone for a long while. Hopefully there's a happy medium -- allowing access to what's in the old files while not being easy pickings for someone trolling or pot-stirring.
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BTW, Mrs. Mungo, I love your line about punctuation. I saw the very error yesterday and had to smack my head. I have had to restrain myself from offering up my services as copy editor to the local newspaper because the lack of writing skills there is appalling.
Sadly, those are the first folks to lose their jobs at newspapers these days. Still need the reporters and folks who are producing the paper, but those pesky editors can certainly be downsized.
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People like that will say anything about anything to get what they want. And if saying doesn't get it, a gun will. A brute is a brute, and while a brute may wear shoes, everyone who wears shoes is not a brute.
This is certainly true.
If you watch The Wannsee Conference (a faithful filming of the transcript of the real conference) you will not see underlying philosophies discussed.
That was later, right? I think the underlying philosophies and attitudes were being formulated and fomented in the early 30s. Certainly evil people adopted that which worked for them. But from some of the writings I've seen, some did indeed advocate and believe these theories were best for their society.
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Sadly, Stein went about this movie under false pretenses with many of his interviewees. He misrepresented a lot of what people believe. As irritating as I find Richard Dawkins, I actually disliked Stein's effort here even more.
Ok, OT:
This one surprised me....I heard recently about Michael Moore's first movie, remember Roger and Me? The whole premise was about Moore trying to talk with the auto exec, right? Apparently, he not only met and talked with him, but also interviewed him on film.
I guess these guys are all about the entertainment. :tongue_smilie:
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I am a theistic evolutionist (if I had to say where I am in this whole issue). Eugenics was a misuse of the theory of evolution. There really is a tie between evolution and Nazism. Social Darwinism, etc were all twisted permutations (ha!) on the idea of evolution. If you put all the people who died in witch burnings and Inquisitons you would come no where near the 6 million plus that the Nazis killed. Now the wars of the Reformation are different. It was Christian killing Christians but usually religion was used as an excuse for political reasons. Even so I don't think you'd get to the numbers the Nazis perpetuated. I thought that Expelled made some good points but was so obnoxious making them that it did more harm than good. Also, Stein switched the tone from being glib and smart ass to being very serious, like he couldn't figure out which approach to take so he tried to blend them and I don't think it worked.
Well said.
Eugenics and Nazism both have direct ties to Darwinism and the underlying philosophy of evolution. Margaret Sanger was also a proponent of eugenics, as were a number of turn of the century progressives.
It's also true that Stein made a mash of what could have been a very good movie. As I said in an earlier post, I do believe that it's worth seeing, if only to see that there are serious, accredited scientists who are marginalized or worse if they are not in lock-step with the scientific community's "right" side of a given issue (particularly true wrt evolution and climate change).
On a side note: Dh and I were talking about this not long ago. Hitler's goal was to exterminate the Jews from Europe. Overall, he really succeeded in that goal. Today, countries like Poland have a small fraction of the Jewish population that they had in the early 1900s.
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The only thing that was at all worthwhile about this film was when PZ Myers went to a screening and was refused admission ......
...... but Dawkins was allowed in :lol:
Expelled from Expelled. :lol:
Kinda like the irony of recent outrage about secret negotiations at Copenhagen, while the Congress is in the midst of secret negotiations.....:001_huh:
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Sounds interesting. Keep posting! Maybe we'll watch it during break.
Definitely worth the watch. Mine are a bit young for the whole movie yet.
Given what's going on in the world scientific community in the past month or so, I'd say this is a timely movie to see. I found his main point to be the lack of debate, inquiry or freedom in the scientific community if you're not in lock step with what's the prevailing "correct" view.
That's so dangerous and unscientific. As a family, we've discussed this both in terms of the climate debate and evolution/id/creationism. In fact, it doesn't really matter where you fall on those issues, imo, it's the lack of scientific method and integrity that bugs me.
The one interview that was funny to me was the guy in France who was slouched practically disappearing in his chair. It was just :001_huh:.
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Thanks for the responses so far. Just added detail - we currently have 42 boys registered.
If I understand correctly, many of the awards like beads and belt loops are more appropriately to be given out at den meetings to be progress incentives. The added benefit is that pack meetings aren't 2 hours long.
Our old pack master had leaders put all the awards in a ziploc for each child and then den leader would read the list, rather than going through things individually. He had a lot of team building activities getting dens and parents involved, skits, color guard for the cubs (about 40). His meetings were usually around an hour.
But our new pack has painfully long pack meetings. The leader awards take a ridiculous amount of time at meetings.
The Christmas party last year had all groups including the cubs (about 55), boy scouts, American heritage girls and explorers/seascouts (?) there (total about 100). Dens met at 6 pm for a few minutes then the pack meeting began at 6:30. The potluck buffet sat at the back of the room til kids were allowed to eat after 9 pm. There was so much stuff, mostly aimed at the adults....
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That said, the cub master is great fun and usually tries to keep the meetings 1-1.5 hours. His best meetings seem to be themed ones like advancements, international, etc.
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One can always minipulate data to fit one's personal "theory". I, however, live w/ 3 kids who have very different learning styles. Not theory, just fact.
Same here. Someone gave me a book early on to look into this, but ds1 wasn't old enough at 5 to figure out and/or I was clueless. (probably the latter :lol:). Now that we're on in years, it's quite clear that they receive, process and deliver info and stimuli in very different ways.
It just makes sense that I pay attention to this evidence and use it to my advantage in teaching them. It's even to the point that a couple of my chosen curricula don't translate from ds1 on down. :glare: I could make it translate but that would be much less efficient and more time-consuming and frustrating for us.
Scientists and researchers can publish what they will, my field study reveals the truth in these test subjects.
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We don't get gifts from our parents. I would just keep quiet. At this point it has been going on for years and I can't imagine how horrible my husband's parents would feel if they had been mistaken for so long.
So not worth it, imo.
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Is she ok otherwise? Giving her grown son a sticker book does seem funny. But if it's an isolated thing, I agree with just letting it go.
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Good points. Though I still think I'd want to call myself, as I'm not sure I would be ok just assuming the police would follow up on it. So I guess the best course of action could depend on how the police responded to a call of this sort.
Someone here mentioned speaking with a detective. That sounded good, getting further into the police station than the front desk. OP could also ask for special crimes /sexual predator section to relay this incident.
Follow up in a few days to see what action was taken.
Since OP found that the number is relatively new, he could be new to the area and trying "tricks" that have proven effective elsewhere.
Hopefully it's just a random weird moment. But I have a friend whose 7 yo dd was nearly picked up by a car full of young men years ago near a bus stop. That creepy 6th sense kicked in and she got quickly home. On the other side of the country, we know a man who is close friends with a couple whose dd was taken on the walk home from school. It's been 20 years, I remember it in the news. That man is VERY careful with his young boys.
I would call police detective.
I would follow up.
I would keep dd off the bus for a while and I would change routine a bit.
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Hmm... I think I'd be inclined to call the number back and speak to this person myself. Ask how he got your number and why he was calling your daughter, to get the information from him first hand. If he is a shady guy, then clearly seeing that she has a *very* involved mother will likely send him in a different direction very quickly. And if nothing else, you'll be better able to get a handle on the situation by hearing his reasons first hand.
I also think calling the local police station and asking for their advice is a good idea. Certainly can't hurt.
I disagree. If it is a guy who's made an honest mistake, that will quickly enough be figured out.
But, if he's a predator, trolling around somehow to make contact with teen girls, he's no doubt got skills to deflect this kind of contact from another adult. It might make OP's family more obvious to him. And even though OP is an involved parent, she's not with dd every minute.
Your best bet is to get this info to the police. They have the know-how to follow it up. And they might try something to get him to reveal himself that wouldn't happen if a parent has already alerted him to suspicion. Kwim? Sending him in a different direction might protect one child but leave others vulnerable.
I'd get the police on it immediately.
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The homeschool group that I am part of seems to be heading in the direction of ... not segregating kids by age, but compartmentalizing them? I don't know what the right word is.
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Is my idea of a multi-age group of kids too idealistic? Am I behind the times to think that my seven year olds don't need their own special social group, composed of kids mainly only the same age? Is it unrealistic to expect teenagers/tweens to just enjoy a group of all ages of kids? I feel like the homeschool group is trying to do what the schools do in grouping kids by age.
Ime, for teens to be content through the homeschooling journey, they can and should be developing same-age friendships and activities and doing teen-only things too. Like Martha said, doesn't have to be remotely about dating, just hanging out, discussing life, literature, likes and dislikes, working on more intense projects and courses. It's just natural.
One of the main reasons hs kids go to highschool seems to be to have those teen interactions.
While I have loved our multi-level groups and think it's great when we all come together for things like a party or broad-range field trip, I do recognize that when teens are brought to a park day with a bunch of little kids running around on a playground, it just seems sad to see the teens awkwardly making conversation around the edges. You can tell they'd rather be somewhere, anywhere else. The exception would probably be if there was a skate park or climbing wall or something, but again, they'd be doing their own thing.
Also, many hs kids, by the age of 12 or so, start to have more intensive work loads with subjects they're studying and books they're reading, so they have less time for the morning groups or the afternoon park.
With dc your ages, I think your best hope is for gradeschool-age range interactions -- that still groups kids from 6-11. Further sub-grouping, I think I would gently resist as it's being discussed (you could point out that it would be like going to a b&m school which none of you are). Kids will naturally buddy up with friends of like personalities and interests and not be too caught up with the age limits.
That's what I've observed. Yours are young, hopefully they're finding lots of ages to interact with.
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I've always loved Doran's posts on titles ... thanks for picking up the mantle. What a great stress-reliever in this holiday season. Thanks!
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Do a search on Amazon for Sculpey clay. Different clay packs come up, along with some idea books. Maybe if you start your browsing there you'll come across the perfect gift?
Definitely second the sculpey clay! Ds2 here is crafty, creative and has great fine-motor skills. We found sculpey a couple years ago in one of those "klutz" all-in-one kits. He loooves it. I tuck extra clay colors in his stocking. He uses a set of pottery tools. Is it percytruffle (?) here who has sculpey on her blog? Ds would like to one day create his own chess set.
You could also get her some posts and things to create earrings using her own sculpey beads.
One year, one of my aunts (in an amazing moment of love and generosity) created one of the best gifts I've ever gotten. She took a big box and wrapped up a variety of art and craft materials. Nice stuff. Watercolor pad, bristol pad, sketchbooks, paints, brushes, nice pencils, natural sponges, all kinds of things -- all wrapped individually and bundled in this big box.
The toy pottery wheels are frustrating for a child who's really interested in crafts, I think, because they're not sturdy enough to do much. Any chance you could find a pottery place or independent potter who would teach dd?
Climbing Parnassus?
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That's how I've felt about it.
I come away from it not with a how-to list but energized that this classical homeschooling venture is possible and worthy of the effort -- an effort which will require more of me as the years go by. So it's good for me to find works that are interesting and compelling.