Thank you for all of your comments, as you may guess, I am revisiting them! b/c i laid this to rest months ago. I am no picking up the idea again now that both my kids are in the same SL core and hope to buy a VPSP course soon, using the VP cards, even though we already know the CC timeline song.

Thanks for this thread. I am also considering the same plan, but Sonlight with VP instead. I still want to do SL history, but like the idea of falling back on VP b/c this will also life the load of memory work I need to do with them for history.

This is an old thread. But wanted it to be refreshed. I also wanted to add: We are using RightStart and TT in a perfect marriage. BUT she is using level C 2nd edition for third grade ( a year behind, because it is marketed as a 2nd grade level book) and level 4 TT (a year ahead) and only partly through these books she scored a year and a half ahead than her current grade level. I plan to stop RS 2nd edition either after level D or G, but continue with TT the rest of the way. We love both! We also just got a subscription to dream box

Love this! thank you guys! I was VERY hesitant to memorize the dates along with the timeline cards... it felt a little to much...but knew that if others found it beneficial we could find a way to see if it would work for us. This idea was sparked when i saw a page at the end of one of the cycles with all the dates before the timeline event or people.

I have been working on Classical conversations memory work at home with the kids. I'm curious though about how other or communities memorize the dates of the timeline. This is separate from the history sentences. I know that in the time line song they have the occasional "3,000 BC or 2,000 BC" but does anyone do anything with more detail? do memory masters? Any info on this would help me for my plan of what is doable, thanks!

oh... wow... indeed!!!

Thank you for this!... yes I am finding that i need more... I'm thankful that they do not do too many though... so that way i can diversify and bring in other angles or book choices from other lists... it would be a part-time job to gather all their reading from scratch again and again for each child from the library... hmm... Mensa for kids... I will look deeper into that option/website, thanks!

so... what i thought was a double post was actually a triple post! here is the main thread! http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/551581-reader-package-or-list/?hl=%2Breader+%2Bpackage+%2Blist&do=findComment&comment=6357859 my apologies. I was posting on my phone and ran into an error.

hmm... Thank you.... It seems you are both right. Yes, I ordered the TerraNova 2 (CAT 6) for 3rd grade from seaton testing. i don't see any signs of it being the third edition... maybe next year? But i'm SO tempted, for "fun," to buy the Stanford that is happening next week or so just to get the lexile score. lol It probably won't happen... I'll just wait for next time around... Thanks for celebrating with me! I've only told my mom-in-lam, mom, and husband (not in that order) about the scores, besides my daughter too of course... Just being honest here.... I thought the results were wrong... b/c we have STRUGGLED so much this year! i don't know why... but we hit a wall this year and it feel like it was a up hill climb the whole way... she has become quite the perfectionist... and she has had so many breakdown i actually had been wondering if we were dealing with learning challenges...but then we got this test back... and just as an example, she cried during this test... b/c she knew she was going to get 4 answers wrong...at least those where her words... We actually had such a hard year we are only 1/2 way through our 3rd grade curicula for the year. So, this was additional reason for me to be surprised when i saw the scores...even though glancing through the test i could see she seemed to get most right, and in 1/2 the time allotted, too. she is my first born, so i don't have much to compare. SO, YES! THANK YOU FOR BEING THE FEW TO CELEBRATE WITH ME, after SUCH a tough year! What sweet, pleasant, surprise... deep sighs.

Also, this is a double post! my apologies! See the most active one here: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/551581-reader-package-or-list/?p=6357859

Thanks again for listing this out!

OK, i i thought i had already responded, but i think i was mid response before posting. We are in the middle of a move and I keep getting pulled away. Thanks, Ladies! So....I must confess i just bought each 2015 summer reader package so i could get a free book per package... and... it seems i've been given almost $100 worth of free books this way. ALSO i did some reading on ambelsides book list thank you... and I appreciate the books listed above too! I'm making note of those! I also HAVE SOTW Activity guides, so thank you for that reminder! Are ther eany tricks in knowing what reading level they are at? and b/c this post got accidentally posted twice, Merry reminded me of THIS list too: http://www.classical-homeschooling.org/celoop/1000-primary.html that All through the Ages book, looks fascinating! THESE are the types of resources i was looking for! I wonder if rainbowresources or amazon has that book, too... I will look for it.

Thank you! I was hoping to find that list again!

click here for a jing photo/screenshot of my daughters test results I am getting conflicting information. It seems that this test is supposed to indicate a scoring or pointing to a lexile score but... i'm a big confused... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexile

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I use Sonlight readers because I like having a package of readers that are already at my fingertips ready to go. Does anyone have any additional reader packages, or book lists for a 3rd-5th grade reading level? I need at least a year or more of additional readers suddenly. We changed our plan and have temporarily run out of SL readers. Im looking for biographies, classics, preclassics, fiction, nonfiction. We will be covering ancients-middle ages, later early American history. Anything recommended to continue to grow reading skills, challenging, but enjoyable. Thanks in advance! I like TWTM. But I struggle because I need preselected options. Would love any direction to an easy book list hacks. Forgive me, I'm posting from phone.

I use Sonlight readers because I like having a package of readers that are already at my fingertips ready to go. Does anyone have any additional reader packages, or book lists for a 3rd-5th grade reading level? I need at least a year or more of additional readers suddenly. We changed our plan and have temporarily run out of SL readers. Im looking for biographies, classics, preclassics, fiction, nonfiction. We will be covering ancients-middle ages, later early American history. Anything recommended to continue to grow reading skills, challenging, but enjoyable. Thanks in advance! I like TWTM. But I struggle because I need preselected options. Would love any direction to an easy book list hacks. Forgive me, I'm posting from phone.

I use Sonlight readers because I like having a package of readers that are already at my fingertips ready to go. Does anyone have any additional reader packages, or book lists for a 3rd-5th grade reading level? I need at least a year or more of additional readers suddenly. We changed our plan and have temporarily run out of SL readers. Im looking for biographies, classics, preclassics, fiction, nonfiction. We will be covering ancients-middle ages, later early American history. Anything recommended to continue to grow reading skills, challenging, but enjoyable. Thanks in advance! I like TWTM. But I struggle because I need preselected options. Would love any direction to an easy book list hacks. Forgive me, I'm posting from phone.

I use Sonlight readers because I like having a package of readers that are already at my fingertips ready to go. Does anyone have any additional reader packages, or book lists for a 3rd-5th grade reading level? I need at least a year or more of additional readers suddenly. We changed our plan and have temporarily run out of SL readers. Im looking for biographies, classics, preclassics, fiction, nonfiction. We will be covering ancients-middle ages, later early American history. Anything recommended to continue to grow reading skills, challenging, but enjoyable. Thanks in advance! I like TWTM. But I struggle because I need preselected options. Would love any direction to an easy book list hacks. Forgive me, I'm posting from phone.

I use Sonlight readers because I like having a package of readers that are already at my fingertips ready to go. Does anyone have any additional reader packages, or book lists for a 3rd-5th grade reading level? I need at least a year or more of additional readers suddenly. We changed our plan and have temporarily run out of SL readers. Im looking for biographies, classics, preclassics, fiction, nonfiction. We will be covering ancients-middle ages, later early American history. Anything recommended to continue to grow reading skills, challenging, but enjoyable. Thanks in advance! I like TWTM. But I struggle because I need preselected options. Would love any direction to an easy book list hacks. Forgive me, I'm posting from phone.

If you had these books sitting on a shelf: WWE3 Killgallon: both Elementary sentence composing and story grammar Saxon/ Hake 5 (3 separate parts: 1. writing book 2. copywork/dictation 3. journal/free writes) IEW SWI-A Writing & Rhetoric: Fables Other copywork tools can maybe use some bravewriter arrow guides too, and other copywork books, etc. (we also have Phonetic Zoo spelling and could buy other spelling resources if needed, but for now maybe it is fine to skip spelling? I will also be adding in SSL2 for her and her brother to do before beginning Latin for Children next year) AND you had a 9-10 year old 4th grader girl who has just completed: Hake 4 grammar copywork in lots of forms WWE2 and will also be doing the Hake 5 grammar, handwriting, and no spelling. What would you use? How would you schedule using several per week? or how would you block schedule it? What would you use first before touching the other? what priority would you set?

My son is about to turn 7 and I want to begin a grammar program with him. I would like to go FLL route as I have it and it is more oral. We are doing CC memory work at home, in the middle of cycle 2. (including some, but skipped other parts of the grammar memory work) We may join a community next year or down the road.... not sure. It would also include essentials, possibly... My daughter did FLL 1-2 and part of level 3 before moving onto Saxon Hake Grammar 4 This might seem way over hyper focusing here, but my one hesitancy for NOT going back to FLL is the dual grammar memory work? I like the FLL memory work, I like having CC memory work on our audio tracks already... and the idea if they are apart of essentials int he future they will be prepared...but b/c i have not been down that full CC grammar program, it's hard to know why different parts are important so i just have to trust the process....but i also like FLL for my BOY who is not wanting to write and i like how FLL gets the grammar lessons done well.... Thoughts? How have you done it? How would you do it in my situation? drop which one and why? benefits or drawbacks of doing both? ETA: one reason now for continuing with the CC memory work is for my daughters sake b/c Hake Grammar doesn't cover memory work (outside of prepositions, that i have seen so far). So she would need to review the definitions at some point with us in our FLL journey or do the CC memory work in someway... Also, My son may switch to Hake grammar eventually too, i have no idea what we will do with him in the long run.

I'm beginning to realizing, for us, that focusing on only 1-3 skills in the whole of school when they are young really narrows the focus, which then gets us through skills faster. for example, I've recently decided to do 4 short reading lessons per day with OPGTR. Acutally i said 3, he said 4. So most of our school days with hims are quick reading lesson (i have four tabs for 4 different places in the book, that we hit for a few moments at each tab), and then he has a break while i work with his sister, then we grab two bob books, or Sonlight's I can read it books, or AAR reader, and he reads briefly... then a break or a math sheet, or part of a RS lesson, or a line of HWT, then it's back to a reading lesson or reader... with math or HWT thrown in if we have not gotten that yet.... and we do reading lessons 6-7 times a week... when it is broken up like that there is less transition from one LA program to the next, just always coming back to that MAIN skill we are working on, but yet it feels so short to him... even though he is basically doing reading lessons all day lol...but lots of play time, rest for eyes and freedom for the squirms. It feels more focused R ME this way, and he feels like he is REALLY accomplishing alot, b/c he sees how far we are going in the book, so this motivates him even more...but if I picked up the AAS, FLL, and WWE that i plan to do with him and have on our shelf, i feel that for him, and for me right now, we would not be accomplishing as much as we are... but this is just us. :)

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This helps.