We loved Lively Latin BB1 here, but I wouldn't use it with a 6yo. We started when my dd just turned 8 (middle of 2nd) and it worked fine, but it probably would've been even better to wait until 3rd grade to really get all that we should have out of it.

Yeah, the TM suggests about 10 days for each lesson. We have easily condensed that since we're working one on one. When it suggests either for the student to write or narrate orally, we do a lot of it orally. I guess that's the advantage of working at home one-on-on instead of in a class. Another plus for CC--it's very adaptable. The number of times to rewrite a story is a question that I asked Mr. Selby. I'm curious to see what he suggests for a homeschooler.

Sure! I shot off an email to him this evening.

You don't have to believe in evolution to believe in an old earth. Check out reasons.org for information on "old earth creationism." OP, if you look at oldearthcreationism.blogspot.com (I think that's what it is), Krista has listed science curricula and resources for all grades that are free of YE leanings. There have also been a number of threads here as well. Maybe search for Old earth creationism. Sorry I'm on my phone or I might be able to be more helpful. :)

OK, thanks for the information. That's one of the questions I was going to ask him because I saw that they use Fable & Narrative in 4th and 5th grade, but wasn't sure how they broke them up. I'll have to check and see if I notice a step up in difficulty the last half of the books. I'm trying to decide if I want to order the student books since they're pretty inexpensive, or just keep doing what we're doing. I'll be schooling three next year with a baby due any day now so I might appreciate whatever time saving help I can get! :)

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You're welcome. And I forgot to mention that Rainbow Resource carries most of them. I like to get the Naxos from Amazon--every once in a while one or two will be marked down for a short time. Yesterday we just got the Greek Myths one in the mail that I was able to get for $7.99. I just keep my eye on them or put the ones I want in my cart and "save for later" so they always notify me of the price changes. Also, if you're interested in the Your Story Hour albums, libraryanded.com has the best prices, and I think they're well worth the cost. You have to register as a homeschooler on that site but they have great prices on certain books and CDs.

These are some of our favorites: Naxos Audiobooks--There are some non-fiction titles in there. Your Story Hour--We like the Bible CDs and the historical biography ones. (Christian Content) Greathall Productions (scroll down to see them) are read by Jim Weiss and have some non-fiction titles. Jim Hodges Audio We have the "You Are There: US History Collection" and enjoy it.

I bought it last year and am using it as a sometime-supplement. I'm using it basically in place of the Extra Practice workbook in Singapore. I already had it when we switched to Singapore so because they teach similarly I just print off the worksheets for topics that dd needs extra practice or review on. For instance right now, we're in 3B and it's a lot of work with measurements and geometry, etc., so to keep long division and multiplication fresh I'll have dd do a couple of problems from those pages in MM a couple of times a week.

OP, I am like your dd and I am a strong visual learner. I took notes in college, not because I actually referred back to them for studying, but because if I could just write it down, when I needed the information for the exam I could picture it written on the page. This is me, too. Absolutely helpless just by listening. Even when dd asks me for help, she has to come over to me so I can see what she needs help with--even the simplest of math problems. My dh and dd drive me crazy with how auditory they are--I don't get it! :blink:

Okay, I just checked out the samples and it looks like the last three pages of the Fable sample are from the Student Book. The outline skeleton that is there is basically what I did on notebook paper and that we filled out together. So, at the quick glance I took it looks like the Student book is not needed but would save a little bit of time for you by having the story for the student to refer to as well as some writing areas.

It was a much easier transition than I expected because CC Fable looks like a decent step up in difficulty and expectations. But it's very incremental. On the outline, I was wondering if the student book had a skeleton of the outline in it? I was planning on emailing Mr. Selby with a few questions about how to begin teaching the outlining he does (he responds very quickly). Anyway, there is a model outline in the TM and we just went off of that. I wrote out the outline skeleton with the roman numerals, etc. and I used the model to guide my dd in picking out the main points. It worked really well! We had never done any kind of outlining before so I quickly explained what we were looking for and dd did wonderfully! She has really surprised me with the other exercises as well--coming up with figurative descriptions of the wind or a tree, for example. She gets to be creative but without the pressure of "creative writing," iykwim. Then we just insert whatever descriptive phrase she came up with into her rewrite from her outline. Sorry, this probably doesn't make sense. Ask if you have any more questions. Oh, and I'm sure your dd could handle it. My dd just turned 9 in January, and although I'm not sure if I'm doing everything "right," I'm just giving the appropriate amount of hand-holding that she needs, and I figure there's plenty of lessons to eventually work into being more self-sufficient with it. I was surprised that there's actually a lot less writing in CC than WT which at times was a little too much for dd with the two different rewrites. CC just has the rewrite from the outline, and then I'm going to have her add in her descriptive exercises into her final product which I allow her to do on the computer (she loves that!). But, I'm not sure that that's an actual part of the program, but it's how I'm interpreting it. :) I checked out WT2, but really wanted something more stream-lined like I mentioned--no grammar, no copywork, no spelling, no fluff, really. I think WT2 would be nice for the incremental teaching of the outline, but so far, dd has picked up on that part very easily just by us doing it together. Hmmm...I'll have to check out the student books and contact Mr. Selby with a few questions while I'm thinking about it. Sorry for the rambling. Hope something in here helped! :)

We recently finished up WT 1 and have just started Classical Composition Fable. I like it much better than WT. It is more streamlined, which is what I was looking for. And I didn't want the grammar, the fuss, or the cost of CW. I have an English degree so I'm fairly confident in writing--maybe that makes a difference? Dd is really enjoying the exercises. We do not use the student workbook, however; just the TM. I already own the TMs for Narrative and Chreia/Maxim and like what I see of where the program is going. Plus, you get to the end of the Progym and ready for Rhetoric in 9th grade. I'm all about efficiency. :)

Just bought all three downloads! I've been (very slowly) working through Lingua Latina myself, so hopefully this will keep me motivated. I think dd9 will be able to use the first 10 lessons also as a review of Lively Latin BB1. Thanks!

Just wanted to say: I :001_wub: my Brother laser printer.

There have been a few threads on it if you search, one recently I think. My dd is a lot like yours. Even after 3 levels (and 3 years) of AAS, the rules are just in one ear and out the other. She's my big picture, whole word girl. I just got my A&P set today so I don't have any BTDT experience. But have you seen the placement test on the website? It looks like dd9 would place at lesson 61 in level A just by looking. So, after I give her the test just to verify, I'll probably end up starting back in the middle of book A somewhere just to cover all our bases.

Double post. Sorry.

Well, good! Just let me know if my LCI audio CD shows up somewhere at your house too! :)

FYI...:D If you're wanting to use VP and SOTW together, the Easy Classical History schedules are great for coordinating them. They schedule VP cards, SOTW, some Guerber/Foster books, Kingfisher Encyclopedia, Famous Men books, History Pockets, etc. (the book choices vary with each year) along with readers and read-alouds, many of which are VP choices. We enjoyed the Early Modern schedule earlier this year with Explorers-1815 cards.

Thank you! We started LL1 last January, so also middle of second grade. We went at the rate of about 2 pages a day, 4-5Xs a week with daily chanting and flashcards. I'm wondering if I just slowed BB2 down to one page a day??? Ugh, IDK. I'm hoping to use Ecce Romani for reading practice as well, since my dd really is a whole-to-parts learner. I am going through Henle and Lingua Latina right now myself (slow process...) and would also love to use Lingua with dd in a couple of years.

:iagree:I had no problems figuring it out or getting lost in the "fog." I just much prefer to have all my books on hand and not depend on the library (not that my library had any of the TOG books anyway). Ultimately though, I really prefer narrative-type living books and read-alouds for our history time, and to save the TOG-type books (use for 1-2 weeks, short, often non-fiction) for the kiddos to browse at and read on their own time. I didn't find the reading to be too much at all for grammar level (even with adding in SOTW and other alternative resources), but just not the TYPE of reading I like. *shrug* I could go into other reasons why I wouldn't use it again with only littles, but I think I did that on the "other" thread from a few weeks ago. FWIW, I don't really like using SOTW as a stand-alone either. Too much planning and library usage again. I need some type of reading schedule, though, and I want all our history focused around GOOD BOOKS. (In my dd's words, "I just want to read, read, read history." She loves it, and reads prodigiously from our home library.) We've found a good combination for my dd's and my personalities with AO/LBC/Yesterday's Classics books and Time Traveler's CDs for added hands-on fun projects.

I ordered the A&P set on Monday to use with dd9. I'm excited to get it in and start using it! We've stuck through 3 levels of AAS and dd is just NOT a rule-based learner. I'm hoping the morpheme approach will make more sense to her big-picture, whole-learner brain.

Wouldn't LP be redundant after BB2? At least the first book or two?

Dovie, How long has it taken you to get where you are in BB2? How old is your dc? Thanks!

:iagree: I would love to see a whole chapter or at least a little more samples further into the book. We've been done with LL1 for about 2 months now and are reviewing the last half of the book doing only the lessons & exercises. I am so TORN about whether to go onto LL2 or ??? If only it wasn't so much money to shell out without being able to see more extensive samples or without being able to sell it if I decided against it. :glare: