home4school Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 read during the Ancients period? If I use SOTW and MOH for middle grades, what can I use to study the books we read from a Christian worldview, hopefully including lit analysis? Any such animal? Are there products that accomplish that individually? Thanks, Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Marple Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Here are just a few off the top of my head: Greenleaf Guide to Ancient Literature Thegreatbooks.com World Views of the Western World (very intensive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home4school Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Thank you, Cynthis. I will look at those. I've already looked at WVWW and decided it is toooo much for us. Are there any less intense than even these you have mentioned. I have a 13yo ds that probably needs something a bit gentler and easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Marple Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I think both the Greenleaf and thegreatbooks.com could be used with a 13 yo. Thegreatbooks.com will give you more variety and choice in books than Greenleaf, but Greenleaf will have more assignments. Thegreatbooks.com is ideal for giving a background on the book, a bit about the author, major discussion points, and an application to a Biblical worldview. Greenleaf works more like a workbook...but works great to keep the students on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 CHeck out Lori's post in this thread http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) Brimwoodpress.com has "Christian Theology and Ancient Polytheism" that uses "Secret of the Scribe" from their "Historical Novels for Engaging Thinkers" series. Hefty title, but doable for grades 5-8. They also have "A Young Historian's Introduction to Worldview". You may be interested in "Teaching the Classics" or "Ready Readers" at http://www.centerforlit.com/. They do offer a worldview supplement...but that is sold separately. There used to be some free lessons available as a download on their website, not sure if they still have that. I am not aware of an "open and go-use with any book title" type of format for the purpose you describe. Geo Edited April 6, 2011 by Geo tweak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 read during the Ancients period? If I use SOTW and MOH for middle grades, what can I use to study the books we read from a Christian worldview, hopefully including lit analysis? Any such animal? Are there products that accomplish that individually? Thanks, Kim What about the books by Leithart? Heroes of the City of Man (Greece & Rome) or A House for My Name (Old Testament). Though these are books that I'd read and then teach concepts from, less books that I'd just hand to the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrissySC Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Have you looked at Progeny Press - standard, as I have mentioned before, but examines morals and character as an example with biblical perspective and consult so it is Christian. I have used these and like them well. Now, have you looked at Total Language Plus? From what little I have read, TLP is Christian as well. http://site.totallanguageplus.com/the-program/how-it-works/ TLP and PP are very similiar from the surface. Perhaps someone will jump in and explain TLP for you. :) FYI the TLP states grades 5-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) read during the Ancients period? If I use SOTW and MOH for middle grades, what can I use to study the books we read from a Christian worldview, hopefully including lit analysis? Any such animal? Are there products that accomplish that individually? Thanks, Kim Did you mean "literary analysis from a Christian worldview/perspective" to assist in your reading of ancients literature? OR, did you mean you want Christian Worldview materials AND Literary Analysis materials to go with your ancients literature? I am assuming the first, and so am listing resources for you below which would answer that question. :) BEST of luck in finding what works for your family! Warmest regards, Lori D. Complete programs (history and literature) that are from a Christian worldview and offer limited literary analysis include: - Tapestry of Grace (year 1) (gr. K-12) - Omnibus 1 from Veritas Press(gr. 7-12) -- guides can also be purchased separately - SMARR (gr. 8-12) -- guides can also be purchased separately Other complete programs (history and literature) that are from a Christian worldview, but do NOT teach or go into literary analysis include: - My Father's World - Trisms - Truthquest - Biblioplan - Sonlight core F (formerly core 6) Progeny Press (Christian perspective) offers a middle school level book guide (not literary analysis) to "The Bronze Bow", a historical fiction work set in ancient times. I don't know if the Novel Inquiries study guide, by Hillside Education, teaches/goes into literary analysis, but it does cover the ancients and is from a Christian perspective. Vol. 1 is for gr. 5-6 and covers : The Golden Goblet, Tirzah, and The Children's Homer. Vol. 2 is for gr. 7-8 and covers: Mara, Daughter of the Nile; Warrior Scarlet, The Tale of Troy, and Caesar's Gallic Wars. Individual literature guides that DO assist with literary analysis AND cover the ancients include: - Discovering Literature: Challenger Level -- secular; gr. 8-12 (The Odyssey) -- HIGHLY recommend this one! (see samples at http://www.rainbowresource.com) - Progeny Press high school guides -- Christian; gr. 8-12 ("Julius Caesar" -- Shakespeare play) (see samples at http://www.christianbook.com) - Glencoe Literature Library -- secular; gr. 8-12 ("Julius Caesar" -- Shakespeare play) - Sparknotes = secular; free online analysis of high school and college level works; these are thorough and helpful in finding themes, motifs and symbols and for the chapter-by-chapter analysis -- but ALWAYS are sure to include any possible Freudian and/or feminist and/or sexual themes... sigh... Total Language Plus has a Christian-persective, complete language arts study guide (NOT literary analysis) to The Bronze Bow (middle school level). And a Christian guide, that covers ancients, but not literary analysis: - The Great Books -- Christian; NOT literary analysis, but a guided discussion of the worldview in the work covered; these are definitely at a high school level Ultimately, no, I don't think there is any such thing for middle school level. I think if I were you, I'd select what works you want to cover, and do Teaching the Classics, or How to Read a Book, or the first chapters of The Well Educated Mind together with your DS, and use free online study guides/lit. guides or an above-mentioned program or guide to help launch you into discussion. I'd also *highly* recommend going over Figuratively Speaking together to learn the *tools* of literary analysis, and then use something like Literary Lessons from the Lord of the Rings or Windows to the World as an enjoyable, gentle entry into literary analysis and literature studies, perhaps alongside doing a few ancient works. Enjoy your ancient lit. adventures! Warmest regards, Lori D. Edited April 7, 2011 by Lori D. added lots of links and lots more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 What about the books by Leithart? Heroes of the City of Man (Greece & Rome) or A House for My Name (Old Testament). Though these are books that I'd read and then teach concepts from, less books that I'd just hand to the kids. Ditto, great for HS too. I love these books, they were very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home4school Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 I lost this thread and only found it again today. Thank you so much for all the replies, and Lori, well my goodness! I'm printing out your reply and bookmarking this to my Favorites. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabel Lee Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I don't see Illuminations mentioned yet. It's by Bright Ideas Press & was written to go with MOH. They sell their lit. guides separately (or with the full guide/schedule), are Christian, and cover ancients. I saw a couple items in the downloadable samples where literary analysis was touched on lightly, but I didn't go through them w/ a fine-tooth comb looking for that. The samples are pretty extensive; if you haven't settled on something you might want to take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnandtinagilbert Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 a program by the Quine family called Starting Points is a worldview/humanities for 7-9 that is followed by a 3 year course for high school. A dear friend is using it next year and has been waiting to use it for about 3 years. TOG also includes worldview, but I'd say as a secondary focus. I'm looking at something called RECON for my high schooler, fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karis Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Center for Literacy Teaching the Classics: Worldview Find it on the IEW site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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