Pam L in Mid Tenn Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Today after making a final decision for next semester for my high school senior I decided to look over my junior's credits. Last year when we turned in our grades, the umbrella program sent an a list of the credits she earned when we lived in Louisiana plus the credits she earned after we moved to Tennessee. I saw that Physical Science was listed at only a half credit. There was another mistake in the paperwork and I "thought" that was a mistake as well. Until today, when I realized it is not a mistake. The year she took Apologia's Physical Science she read the book, did some labs, did the study guide, and did the test for each module until December of that year. We had alot of illness in December, plus Christmas, then in Jan the flu, then in Feb my mother was in hospital for a month, in March she needed constant care at home AND we found out we were moving to TN.. We packed and house hunted in April and moved the first weekend in May. UGH...... somewhere along the line I think I told her.... "go ahead and finish just reading the book and listen to the MP3 audio as you read. You 'll cover the whole book but I'll only give you a half credit." NOW, what do I do?? I don't want to just "give" her a half credit. I don't want to make her re-read the same book again. Do you know of some "living" books I could have her read? What about a book of just experiments? The only ones I see are for elementary grades. Could I have her reserach the same topics in other materials and assign some 2 or 3 page written reports? What would you do? Thanks for answering all my questions these days!!! It is almost 6pm and I have been working on school stuff since about 8:15 this morning!:tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan in Mass Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Could she read some of the chapters of Conceptual Physics? That would be different. My 8th grader (good at science and math) did it, so she ought to be able to read it and understand it. She could choose which chapters she was interested in - light or sound or relativity; she wouldn't have to cover the whole book. The teacher's guide says you are probably going to have to pick and choose even if you have a whole year. There is also a Conceptual Chemistry book. And there is a Conceptual high school science that includes some geology and biology, too. I haven't seen it, but that might work even better. -Nan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in MN Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Could she just do the experiments and assignments from the book she already read? Isn't that all she skipped? Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Pam, How far did she get in Apologia? She should be fine to get a whole credit if she does 12 of the modules, the back of that book is difficult. If she is close to that, maybe she can read a little more to get the whole credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam L in Mid Tenn Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 She could not do the assignments in the Apologia Book without re-reading those modules. She could however do the labs from the last half of the book. IF she would do that willingly. She is one that would balk and say, I did that book in 9th! NO way I'm repeating it in 11th! She did READ the entire book. But, I don't feel comfortable giving her a whole credit when she did half of the assignments and less than half of the experiments. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 The experiments are not all that important because Physical Science isn't considered a lab science. If you can get tests done through Module 12, I would give the credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 A wonderful book for experiments is Hands On Physics Activities with real life applications by James Cunningham and Norman Herr. It's for grades 8-12. It is a big book, but each topic has several sections with reading for the teacher, helps for teaching the math, experiments with questions and answers. She could probably just read the teacher parts for the basics and do experiments in areas she's not so familiar with. I love it! They also have one for chemistry that I'll get. Or how about some Teaching Company videos? The Joy of Science has all topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisak Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Here is a link you might find helpful. It is a couple of pages with literature to go along with Apologia Physical Science. http://www.exodusbooks.com/Samples/AEM/8090Supplement.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Are you sure they are giving her a 1/2 credit because you didn't do all the labs etc? In many places Physical Science isn't a high school science course at all so maybe they gave 1/2 a credit because it's traditionally a middle school course so it wouldn't be a full credit in high school. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Are you sure they are giving her a 1/2 credit because you didn't do all the labs etc? In many places Physical Science isn't a high school science course at all so maybe they gave 1/2 a credit because it's traditionally a middle school course so it wouldn't be a full credit in high school. Heather Most umbrellas in TN consider Physical Science a high school, non-lab course. Not that you don't do labs but it doesn't meet the requirement of having a high school lab course. State colleges in TN view it the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam L in Mid Tenn Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 Thanks for the suggestions, but other than the book list, it is still not what I am looking for. 1. "They" don't give the credit. "I" give the credit and the umbrella program puts the grade and credit on an official transcript. 2. I looked through boxes in the attic to find her notebook from Physical Science. I could not find it, so I have no memory of how many modules she actually did assignments for and how many she only read. I usually give a full credit when 80% of the book has been completed if around 150 hours have been put in to that book. 3. After talking with her, there is no way she'll go back to the Apologia book. I did send an email to the director of our umbrella program asking her advice. The office is closed for the holiday. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in MN Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 So are you looking to add more reading or more lab? My dd used Experiences in Biology, and I think there's an Experiences in Physics. Not sure if it's a junior hi or high school physics, but they are good lab books for homeschools. Check out Castle Heights Press. http://www.castleheightspress.com/category.sc?categoryId=9 For more reading, you could do a John Tiner book or something. Didn't someone give a list of reading matter, or was that on another thread I was following? Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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