Apples and Pears Spelling & All About Spelling

[Homeschooling6]

I am wondering how A&P compares to AAS. I currently have AAS but am also looking into getting A&P for my oldest son Josh.

 

Because AAS is very teacher intensive (at least IMHO) I am looking for something just as good for some of my students.

 

Is A&P a little more independent. I would like to use A&P with my 9 & 10yr. olds and AAS with my 7 & 8 yr. old students.

 

My oldest son Josh (10yrs) is the one struggling with spelling. He spells at a low 2nd grade level. If he would benefit more from AAS at what age can my other students use A&P.

 

Hope I'm making sense. I shouldn't be asking questions after 10:00pm:001_huh:but it's the only time I have:glare:

 

Basiclly I want to know if A&P can be done mostly independent with great results and at what age can this be started. Pro's, con's any infor:D

 

Anyway any help is much appreciated

[8filltheheart]

Apples and Pears is teacher dependent. I won't say teacher intensive b/c it is simply open the book and go. It takes about 10 mins for us to complete a lesson.

 

For older struggling kids, my preference is for A&P. I know the OG methodology extremely well, so I do elaborate a little more than is in A&P. A&P's strengths lie in the 3 prong approach.......breaking words down into morphemes (smallest parts.....prefixes, roots, suffixes) and repeatedly focusing on on those rules, teaching phonics rules, and repetitive spiral dictation.

 

A&P is completely viewable online (entire books). There should be no surprises in what it covers.

[Isabella]

I can't compare the two, but I own A&P, and use it with my 12yo dyslexic struggling speller. We have just finished book A, and about 10 lessons into B. We really, really like it, but it is not something to be used independently. It is, as momof7 said, very much pick-up-and-go, though. It's very gradual and incremental, and has built a lot of confidence in my dd. Her confidence is carrying over into her everyday writing now, too. She's got a way to go, of course, but even she is starting to think she WILL get there sometime!

HTH

[Homeschooling6]

Apples and Pears is teacher dependent. I won't say teacher intensive b/c it is simply open the book and go. It takes about 10 mins for us to complete a lesson.

 

For older struggling kids, my preference is for A&P. I know the OG methodology extremely well, so I do elaborate a little more than is in A&P. A&P's strengths lie in the 3 prong approach.......breaking words down into morphemes (smallest parts.....prefixes, roots, suffixes) and repeatedly focusing on on those rules, teaching phonics rules, and repetitive spiral dictation.

 

A&P is completely viewable online (entire books). There should be no surprises in what it covers.

 

I guess that is what AAS is Teacher Dependednt not intensive. I don't want to sound like I'm being lazy. I don't mind sitting down with my kiddos and teaching a lesson, but a I look over all our subjects and how all my students still need me (dependent ;)) I'm wondering how to fit it all in.

 

With math I was going to have 4 of my students use Singapore and my oldest continue with MUS, but now I'm deciding to use MUS with most of them because they can watch the dvd:001_huh:and of course if they need help I'm here. I'm using singapore more as a supplement.

 

I'm trying to figure out what subjects I can have the kiddos do more on their own.

 

Off to A&P website tonight.

Thanks ladies.

[Lori D.]

Well, I am always hesitant about recommending spelling as an independently-learned subject below 4th-5th grade, unless you have a natural speller. Just our experience, but working with words together for 10 minutes a day really makes a difference in comprehension and ability to see how words are put together to then be able to "take them apart" and spell them. Practice things like:

 

- on a whiteboard, practice root words and adding endings, breaking into syllables, comparing homophones, etc. (this one everyone can do all together at one time)

- dictating short sentences with spelling words in them to practice simultaneous thinking/writing/spelling

- oral, out loud spelling practice (hear and learn the sequential spelling pattern of the words)

 

 

However; for your students who can be a bit more independent in learning spelling, these might be good options:

 

- Phonetic Zoo (gr. 3 and up) = http://www.excellenceinwriting.com/?...log/4/spelling'>http://www.excellenceinwriting.com/?...log/4/spelling

- Megawords (gr. 4 and up) = http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/easy_find?Ntk=keywords&Ntt=megawords&action=Search&N=0&Ne=0&event=ESRCN&nav_search=1&cms=1&Go.x=10&Go.y=9&Go=Go

- Apples Daily Spelling Drill (gr. 5 and up) = http://www.christianbook.com/Christi...WW&view=covers

- Calvert Spelling CD (gr. 3 and up) = http://www.calvertschool.org/accredited-homeschool-curriculum/interactive-learning/cd-courses/calvert-mastery-series-spelling-cds/

 

Although we found Spelling Workout to be "busywork" and did not help our average speller advance in spelling, if you have any "natural spellers", Spelling Workout is another independent spelling program. Or, traditional spelling programs from Rod & Staff or Horizons can be very workable, though I believe they take just a bit more time from the teacher.

 

 

My oldest son Josh (10yrs) is the one struggling with spelling. He spells at a low 2nd grade level. If he would benefit more from AAS at what age can my other students use A&P.

 

 

Teaching spelling to one who struggles with spelling requires some one-on-one. Programs geared to help struggling spellers:

 

- Apples & Pears (gr. 2 and up)

For young students, or remedial program for older students. Teaches vowel sound spelling patterns and morphemic spelling strategies for adding prefixes and suffixes.

see it at: http://www.soundfoundationsbooks.co.uk/

 

- Sequential Spelling (gr. 4 and up)

For older students; can be used by those who struggle with spelling, or not. Written by and for dyslexic students. Teaches students to break down larger word into root with additional syllables, prefixes, endings.

see it at: http://www.avko.org/sequentialspelling.html

 

- Spelling Through Morphographs (gr. 4 and up)

Remedial spelling for older students; teaches students basic vowel sounds and vowel patterns, and how to build these into words.

see it at: http://www.mcgraw-hill.com.au/html/9780076053995.html

an OLD WTM thread on this program: http://www.wtmboards.com/specialneedsOct03/messages/2128.html

 

- Stevenson Blue Spelling Manual (gr. 2 and up)

For younger students, or can be used as a remedial program for older students. Pictures help student visualize vowel patterns and sounds.

see it at: http://www.stevensonlearning.com/Language_skills/description.htm

 

- Phonetic Zoo (gr. 3 and up)

Auditory, independent program. Helps non-sequential learners hear the word letter by letter to learn the spelling sequence.

see it at: http://www.excellenceinwriting.com/?...log/4/spelling

 

 

BEST of luck in your spelling adventures! : ) Warmly, Lori D.