Country Girl Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I know there has been talk on here before about the number of kids who leave the faith after they leave home. At one point, I also listened to the audio given by Voddie Baucham that several here recommended. I know a number of statistics were cited but I've been looking for a place online that actually states these statistics and I can't find one. Does anyone have a source that states these statistics? Also, does anyone know of an article or something similar to the points that Voddie Baucham makes in his "Centrality of the Home" audio but that may be a little less "forceful"? I loved his audio and would like to share the info with some others but I know they are coming from a place that will be a little less receptive to the message than I was. I really want them to be open to his message but not scared off by his aggressive style (I realize that many won't think his message is too aggressive but I'm pretty sure the audience I want to share it with will KWIM). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLHCO Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 If memory serves, http://www.nheri.org/ has many good statistics on this and lists who does it. Go to their research section. Some additional information can be found near the bottom of this page: http://www.consideringhomeschooling.org/publicschools.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy in Indy Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 John Stonestreet from Summit has a wonderful talk on this subject. You can download it for $2.95. http://summit.org/store/product.php?productid=576&cat=175&page=2 And if you live anywhere near Cincy, Stonestreet will be speaking at the 2009 Midwest Homeschool Convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margo out of lurking Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I'm thinking George Barna has statistics on this. I am going to bed and don't have time to look further, but you might poke around http://www.barna.org if you have a little time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaLisa Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I believe Baucham (and Stonestreet too for that matter) use many of the statistics from George Barna. Barna also has several books (and possibly some audio) about children losing faith and multigenerational faithfulness. Barna books: http://books.google.com/books?as_auth=George+Barna Barna website: http://www.barna.org/ HTH! Lisa ETA: You win Kristine! You're quick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country Girl Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 Thank you everyone for giving me these links. I'm off to check them out, and hopefully find what I'm looking for. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelzNH Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I love Frank Turek's book and his website/ organization that is dedicated to this: http://www.crossexamined.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abreakfromlife Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Another one chiming in for Barna. I know he's been doing stats for 25 years or so. His book about this is fascinating - Revolutionary Parenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erica in PA Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I know there has been talk on here before about the number of kids who leave the faith after they leave home. At one point, I also listened to the audio given by Voddie Baucham that several here recommended. I know a number of statistics were cited but I've been looking for a place online that actually states these statistics and I can't find one. Does anyone have a source that states these statistics? Also, does anyone know of an article or something similar to the points that Voddie Baucham makes in his "Centrality of the Home" audio but that may be a little less "forceful"? I loved his audio and would like to share the info with some others but I know they are coming from a place that will be a little less receptive to the message than I was. I really want them to be open to his message but not scared off by his aggressive style (I realize that many won't think his message is too aggressive but I'm pretty sure the audience I want to share it with will KWIM). Thanks! There is a really good book called "Rethink Youth Ministry" by Steve Wright and Chris Graves, that I read recently and really appreciate. There are many, many statistics included regarding the number of young people who leave the faith, as well as other related topics. They do not take things as far as Voddie Baucham, (who I do find slightly off-putting, to be honest, even though I agree with some of what he says), but rather suggest ways to make youth ministry more family oriented, and emphasize that an important role of youth leaders is assisting parents and giving them resources so that they can do their job of discipling their own children. I think it's really a balanced, reasonable approach. My dh recently began co-leading our youth group, and this is the approach we're seeking to follow. Erica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle in MO Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 link to the other excellent ones that have been posted? I just got an update from the ACCS (Association of Classical & Christian Schools)---their Forum e-newsletter. In it they posted a link to an article from the Nehemiah Institute about Christian worldview in youths attending Christian schools and even homeschoolers. Here's a link to the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieM Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I have just begun reading this book and the author comments on this. Interestingly, his comment is that we now see 80% of churched kids leave the faith as adults, BUT, among homeschoolers, 95% of the kids stick with their parents' faith. This is is first time I'd seen that subset broken out. I can't remember who they cite for their figures (and I will check into it), but Barna is likely it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country Girl Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 There is a really good book called "Rethink Youth Ministry" by Steve Wright and Chris Graves, that I read recently and really appreciate. There are many, many statistics included regarding the number of young people who leave the faith, as well as other related topics. They do not take things as far as Voddie Baucham, (who I do find slightly off-putting, to be honest, even though I agree with some of what he says), but rather suggest ways to make youth ministry more family oriented, and emphasize that an important role of youth leaders is assisting parents and giving them resources so that they can do their job of discipling their own children. I think it's really a balanced, reasonable approach. My dh recently began co-leading our youth group, and this is the approach we're seeking to follow. Erica Erica, Thanks for the book recommendation, it looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country Girl Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Thank you everyone for contributing more to this thread. You have given me lots of great resources and some great looking reads. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4boys Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Just chiming in my two cents on this topic; I recently read this article on the subject and thought it might be helpful: http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/2008/april/05/god-doesnt-have-any-grandchildren/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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