quark Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 In the space of one week, DS has had to sign forms three times, each form being required for something or other at the high school level (e.g. competition, testing etc). We didn't spend any time learning cursive because he really didn't want to. So all three times, he just printed his name where it says to sign. Does anyone know if this will be an issue when he is older e.g. for college forms and such? Maybe for his driving license? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 California's driver license and non-driver's id just requires a thumbprint. Maybe you might want to get a non-driver's id for him if you don't want to bring around his passport. (ETA: I have a non-drivers id. It was very fast and easy getting one at DMV, photo taken there) "To apply for an original driver license if you are over 18, you will need to do the following: Visit a DMV office (make an Appointment(s) for faster service) Complete application form DL 44 (An original DL 44 form must be submitted. Copies will not be accepted.) Give a thumb print ..... Identification (ID) cards DMV issues ID cards to persons of any age. The ID card looks like a driver license, but is used for identification purposes only." He would need some cursive for PSAT though. "Certification Statement: As part of pretesting activities, students will copy and sign a short statement acknowledging that they agree to the PSAT/NMSQT test regulations. This is to ensure fairness of the test and validity of the scores for everyone. Students should write in cursive (not print) and sign their statement in pencil. Students who aren’t sure how to write in script should do the best they can. Allow 5–10 minutes for this activity." My boys can sign their names in cursive and not much else. My kids e-sign their school documents in cursive because its easier than print when using a computer mouse. They can copy a work in cursive though. So maybe just get your son to learn only how to sign his name in cursive and he can just copy for PSAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The SAT requires the student to copy over an anti-cheating statement in cursive. So yeah, he's going to have to learn cursive or at the very least italics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 The SAT requires the student to copy over an anti-cheating statement in cursive. So yeah, he's going to have to learn cursive or at the very least italics. Yes, I know. But must that statement be written in cursive? He wrote it in print...they did mention that if you can't, to just try your best. :p Why would they say that if it is a hard and fast rule? I of course am not condoning breaking rules but they do have younger students taking it for talent search etc no? I wonder if they might reject his application. :( I think I'll buy a cursive book and try it again with him. Maybe for 5 minutes a day or something. ETA: Thank you Arcadia and CW for answering me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think I'll buy a cursive book and try it again with him. Maybe for 5 minutes a day or something. Since your son can write in your Asian script, it would be easy for him to catch up on cursive. It just needs to be legible :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatHomeschoolDad Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The SAT in cursive thing freaks my students out, but it's essentially a CYA move for the College Board to maybe discourage people from paying others to take the test for them (which still happens anyway). I always tell kids you can write the thing with your foot for all they care. Most haven't touched script since elementary grades, if then. As for a sig, I had a sort-of tortured script sig in my teens I never used much, then developed an ad-hoc mix of print and connected letters as an adult, so I don't think it's something to terribly stress over, but could be turned into an issue of, IDK, creative ownership of sorts. Looking at other signatures helped me get over the idea that it had to be traditional script, and I adopted ideas I liked. Maybe that could work for the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Since your son can write in your Asian script, it would be easy for him to catch up on cursive. It just needs to be legible :) He can't write my Asian script. He can write some hiragana though lol, not that it's helpful. Sigh. , The SAT in cursive thing freaks my students out, but it's essentially a CYA move for the College Board to maybe discourage people from paying others to take the test for them (which still happens anyway). I always tell kids you can write the thing with your foot for all they care. Most haven't touched script since elementary grades, if then. As for a sig, I had a sort-of tortured script sig in my teens I never used much, then developed an ad-hoc mix of print and connected letters as an adult, so I don't think it's something to terribly stress over, but could be turned into an issue of, IDK, creative ownership of sorts. Looking at other signatures helped me get over the idea that it had to be traditional script, and I adopted ideas I liked. Maybe that could work for the OP. Thank you THD! He might enjoy looking at others' signatures and practicing different styles. Come to think of it, that's close to what I did at his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara H Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 It really won't matter. I'd mention to him that most people like to establish a signature at some point. Maybe he'd like to write his name fifty times over a week and decide if he wants to add any connecting lines or flair because most people don't just print their signature. Or, not if he doesn't care. I really don't think he needs to learn all of cursive though and it will never matter if he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 He might enjoy looking at others' signatures and practicing different styles. Come to think of it, that's close to what I did at his age. My older had his inspiration from the signatures (image link on Gutenberg) on the Declaration of Independence. A funny was that one of my cousin signed a whole page worth in cursive for me to pick what I think is the best one for him because we sign in cursive for my country's civil marriage documents. We did a lot of cursive signatures for personal cheques though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 It really won't matter. I'd mention to him that most people like to establish a signature at some point. Maybe he'd like to write his name fifty times over a week and decide if he wants to add any connecting lines or flair because most people don't just print their signature. Or, not if he doesn't care. I really don't think he needs to learn all of cursive though and it will never matter if he doesn't. :hurray: So wonderful to read this Barbara! Thank you so very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 My older had his inspiration from the signatures (image link on Gutenberg) on the Declaration of Independence. A funny was that one of my cousin signed a whole page worth in cursive for me to pick what I think is the best one for him because we sign in cursive for my country's civil marriage documents. We did a lot of cursive signatures for personal cheques though. Oooh, nice link! Thank you! :) We'll be doing some Google image searches too. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndOfOrdinary Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 When my son got his enhanced drivers license, the lady told me that if he couldn't write it in cursive I would have to write it. No printing allowed. My son was 7 at the time, and believe me, it shows. It is his name, it is sort of cursive-like, and she accepted it, but beautiful it is not. As long as he is young, it doesn't seem to matter. By 14 you may want to consider the idea of just learning his name in something passable as cursive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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