My3girls Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I plan to start Aristotle Leads the Way after Christmas with Dd12. Has anyone used this? Are the teacher and/or student guides helpful, necessary, a waste of money? The teacher guide is more expensive than the actual text and I don't want to waste my money, Kwim? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 We bought it for the first book and actually found it to be too much for us. It'd be awesome for a classroom, but just more than I needed to teach my own daughter. We loved the books though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi mum Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I have a 12 year old using Aristotle Leads The Way this year. He is really enjoying it. I didn't buy the teacher guide but we are using the student guide. I have skipped some of the assignments if they overlap with what we have already covered in history but I would definitely buy the student guide again. He works on this independently. I just assign either a chapter to read or an activity from the student book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmrich Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Does anyone have a blog that discusses using this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Miss Moe blogged about using Newton at the Center with the Quest Guides. IMO - and it's not a universally held opinion - the Aristotle book is really more a history book than a science book. Me, I like that - we like to talk about the history of ideas, I like to make connections between history, science, lit, math, etc. But if this is your science for the year/semester, it might end up feeling kind of light, as science. As history, either stand alone or as a supplement to Ancient/Medieval history, it's great! But better, I think, as a read together and discuss than one they go off and read alone - if the ideas part is why you're really interested. When we did this, we were also doing several other things for science. It took less than a semester to go through, too (but we do science every day). I have mixed feelings about the Quest guide. It doesn't really turn it into a science class, I don't think. There are a couple of experiments and several nice math activities. But it's also a lot of answering questions that I prefer to discuss orally, and some kind of silly makework activities. For the price, I'm not sure if it is worth it for one kid at home. For a class or coop, sure. We're using the Newton book now. It's definitely more of a science book than the first one, for sure! Which makes sense, because it covers the time period when actual scientific methodology and experimentation was developed. Again, I have mixed feelings about the Quest guide. A couple of the activities have been great, but a lot of them feel like either busywork writing assignments or just straight demos of historical "experiments" that you've just read about - so you know just what "should" happen. That kind of project drives me nuts. I'm supplementing it heavily with better activities- we're using the Stop Faking It Force & Motion Activity book, for example, right now to study Newton's laws. And we did a whole trimester on Astronomy using other resources. But I have found with this book that when I send my 6th grader off to read it on her own, she doesn't always get the main points. It really is a better read and discuss together book, I'm realizing. Your son is older, so this may be less of an issue, but I think the Newton book is really challenging for a 6th grader to do on their own. I like these books, I do. I'm not sure if the Quest guides a worth it, though, and I don't think they stand alone as a full science curriculum. They are what they are, which is a really unique and interesting approach to the history of scientific ideas and discoveries. If you go into it knowing that, I think you can get a whole lot out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I agree completely! I hate how busy the text is. My only consolation is that Shannon is getting practice with how to read a busy text . . . strategies for managing boxes, picture captions, definitions, sidebars, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuway Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I bought the books it to have around, but am not using it as a spine, just a supplement to our science books. I think they are great resources as such. I assign a few chapters a week for my oldest (8.5) who is accelerated and usually wants more to read on science topics. She reads them on her own, narrates/ dissusses with me and might do a notebook page on what she read or put something on her history timeline if appropriate. I agree that they are a bit more textbook-ish than narrative than I'd like, but at least they are secular and its not terribly boring, or super expensive. I do believe they are trying to be narrative, if that makes sense. My library had all of them so I was able to check them out first to see if we liked them. Most of what I've read online says that the workbooks are not worth using - not well related to the text, more suited for classroom use, and generally lame - but I have no personal experience with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Ok, I just realized the other thing I hate about these books - they are written in the &$%#@ present tense!!! I find myself translating it into the past tense as I read. What a weird authorial choice. It's annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My3girls Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 I was planning on using this as a supplement to world history. The science and math in it are just a nice bonus. Looks like it will be a read and discuss with occasional written narrations then. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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