RobinL in Canada Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 A couple of years back when I used to frequent these boards, Spielvogel's Human Odyssey (in one or more volumes) was all the rage as a history spine, but now I see constant mention of K12 HO. The same or different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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masaki Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) We have volumes 1 & 2 of K12's Human Odyssey and the authors are Klee, Crib, and Holdren. Volume 1 covers prehistory thru early Middle Ages, volume 2 covers 1400 to 1910. HTH I'm not 100% sure, but it seems Spielvogel's book, World History: The Human Odyssey, is just one large volume. Hopefully, others will chime in and give you a more info about the Spielvogel book. Edited March 23, 2012 by masaki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in TX Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 No, they're not the same. I've looked at both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Completely, entirely different. I own them all. :blush: K12 Human Odyssey is a three volume set (authors were mentioned in a PP), written for 7-9th grades. Speilvogel Human Odyssey is just one volume, written by, yes, Spielvogel, and written for high schoolers. (You may also hear talk of Spielvogel Western Civ; that's a college text some use for high school). K12's books are written to go along with their online courses. There are no comprehension questions or end-of-chapter assessments in the texts; those are in the student/teacher pages and online. Spielvogel's books do have discussion and end-of-chapter assessments in the text. I much prefer the K12HO. It's written in a much more engaging style, and I think is actually more in depth, because it's got three volumes to tell the story. I find the Speilvogel much drier. I also find the K12HO layout much more visually appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinL in Canada Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thank. Where does one find the K12 HO books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinL in Canada Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thank. Where does one find the K12 HO books? Oops---make that "thanks"! You certainly deserve more than a single "thank." :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thank. Where does one find the K12 HO books? I just bought them used from Amazon (you could also try alibris or half.com). I was able to get them less expensively than direct from K12, and they came like new. I think they go up in price every now and then when they get talked up here, though - if the price seems exorbitant, wait a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masaki Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I just bought them used from Amazon (you could also try alibris or half.com). I was able to get them less expensively than direct from K12, and they came like new. :iagree: I found our books on Amazon. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Completely different. And I've used both (not because they have the same name). I can tell you that K12's HO is *far* superior to Spielvogel in all ways, with the possible exception that K12's HO is for middle schoolers. If you need an actual high school text, K12's World History: Our Human Story is essentially HO adapted for high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinL in Canada Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Completely different. And I've used both (not because they have the same name). I can tell you that K12's HO is *far* superior to Spielvogel in all ways, with the possible exception that K12's HO is for middle schoolers. If you need an actual high school text, K12's World History: Our Human Story is essentially HO adapted for high school. I am planning next year to have my grade 8 son do Early Modern/ Modern (in one year) and had intended to use Spielvogel as the spine. If I went with K12's HO, though, that would mean buying two volumes, right (because of where they break chronologically)? And they seem quite hefty--could we actually get through two in one year? So much for the love affair so many WTM'ers had with Spielvogel a couple of years past! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I am planning next year to have my grade 8 son do Early Modern/ Modern (in one year) and had intended to use Spielvogel as the spine. If I went with K12's HO, though, that would mean buying two volumes, right (because of where they break chronologically)? And they seem quite hefty--could we actually get through two in one year? So much for the love affair so many WTM'ers had with Spielvogel a couple of years past! You could easily get through two in one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinL in Canada Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thank you for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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