Julie in GA Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I had pre-ordered it at a convention last month and it arrived yesterday. This book would fit well in Year 3 of the standard WTM 4-year cycle, spanning the 15th to 19th centuries, and including both European and American figures. I can see why the Shearers wrote "Ren/Ref," however. If you go from FM of the Middle Ages to FM of Modern Times, you'll be skipping many great Renaissance artists, and the reformers as well (Huss, Wycliffe, Luther, Calvin, Knox). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragons in the flower bed Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Thanks for the review. I had wondered about the differences. Is there overlap between Ren/Ref and Modern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
materursa Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I can see why the Shearers wrote "Ren/Ref," however. Where can I find info on this book? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in GA Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Here's a link to the Greenleaf catalog, with a description: Greenleaf Press (Famous Men of Ren/Ref) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in GA Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 I thought I had found two men that both books covered, but looking again, I only see one: Lorenzo de Medici (15th century). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragons in the flower bed Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I thought I had found two men that both books covered, but looking again, I only see one: Lorenzo de Medici (15th century). That's awesome! That's like getting a whole new Famous Men book! Woohoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in GA Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 I know! I'm excited about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcyM Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I wasn't able to open the Greenleaf catalog. The Ren/Ref version doesn't sound appealing, but without the supposed-rumored slanted religious figurehead bios, it might be. (Are they as biased as their reputation says?) So modern times has early American leaders that would go well with SOTW 3? This may be a really stupid question; I've heard these books mentioned often but I've never been able to get my hands on one... Is the book literally just *men*? Or is it men, as in humans? Maybe I'll see if I can find some examples in html instead of pdf. If I find it, I'll come back and post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcyM Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 hmmm... my post double posted! I got a message that said the server was busy, and then my message appeared twice. makes me sound pretty eager. my 5 yr asks questions like that... repeats until someone answers him. ;) too funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelli in TN Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 You can take a peek at the original here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcyM Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Thanks, Kelli. I saw that one at the Baldwin project. Gotta love free! How does the Greenleaf version differ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithr Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I just got mine yesterday. Yep, it's men as in the gender not men as in humankind. It is so 'men' oriented that you get figures like Prince Ferdinand of Aragon but you don't get his queen, Isabella. You get Sir Francis Drake but you don't get Queen Elizabeth. I think this is kind of a huge omission, but in spite of that, the short biographies are so well done and contain so much fact that otherwise gets glossed over that I really like the series. But because of their limitations I definitely see these books as supplemental rather than as history spine. I have all of them except the Ren/Ref mostly because I'm Catholic and get really tired reading of biased history about the era so I didn't even want to purchase it. Someone needs to write a Famous Women series, not a reactive, modern feminst view though, but well told and as objective as possible. Anybody wanna bite????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelli in TN Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Thanks, Kelli. I saw that one at the Baldwin project. Gotta love free! How does the Greenleaf version differ? I have no idea. I use the Baldwin project one so that is all I know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Lynx Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Someone needs to write a Famous Women series, not a reactive, modern feminst view though, but well told and as objective as possible. Anybody wanna bite????? So, who would we include? Isabella, Elizabeth ....? Also, how "modern" does the Famous Men of the Modern Ages get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithr Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Stephanie, I was thinking about a list of women in the shower this morning! LOL! The last biography in FMMT is Count Von Bismark (1815-1898). Modern Times would probably be the easiest as women really came into their own. I'm going to mull over who I'd include. For some reason I kind of recall that the Middle Ages book might have had Joan of Arc, but I could be remembering wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in GA Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 It will take you through the 19th century, which is why I said it would correspond with SOTW3. I didn't mean the all the people talked about were also mentioned in SOTW, just that they cover roughly the same time period, in case anyone was wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in GA Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 There are actually only two Americans mentioned: George Washington & Abraham Lincoln. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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