# plz help with a math problem

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Yikes! I could really use help with this problem:

Jenny had 250 more local stamps than Malayasian stamps. After giving 76 local stamps to her friend, she had 1/4 as many Malaysian stamps as local stamps. How many local stamps did Jenny have at first?

Thanks

Trisha

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Hm. I'm no math wiz but this is as far as I got with it:

x = the number of Malaysian stamps

x + 250 = the number of local stamps

But the next part threw me:

x + 174 = the number of local stamps after the give away so the equation would be (I think) x + 174 = .25x but I have no idea how to solve that. Then again, I was an English major so I could be WAAAAYYYY off. :tongue_smilie:

Oh wait.. maybe it's .25(x + 174) = x? Hmmm....

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love these bar graph problems LOL

Edited by Halcyon
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This must be a Singapore problem, because I remember helping one of my girls with it at some point.

Jenny had 250 more local stamps than Malayasian stamps. After giving 76 local stamps to her friend, she had 1/4 as many Malaysian stamps as local stamps. How many local stamps did Jenny have at first?

Draw your rod diagrams like this:

starting condition:

[------local-stamps-][------------------------------250----------------------------]

[-Malaysian-stamps-]

ending condition (after giving her friend 76 of her local stamps):

[-----local-stamps--][---------------------174-----------------------]

[-Malaysian-stamps-]

Now there are 1/4 as many Malaysian stamps as local stamps. That means that 174 has to be equal to 3x the number of Malaysian stamps, so there have to be 174/3 = 58 Malaysian stamps.

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Well, my equation works with plugging in the 58 for x. But I still have no idea how I would have solved it. LOL

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Angie

Will you teach my kids math to the end of time...watch what you answer...I will see you again :)

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Well, my equation works with plugging in the 58 for x. But I still have no idea how I would have solved it. LOL

Using algebra,

If x = malaysian stamps,

then x+(250-76)= 4x, x=58, local stamps before = 58+250=308

* At the end, local stamps were 4 times of Malaysian stamps, not 1/4 of Malaysian stamps.

Or if you choose to use x= local stamps in the begining, then 4(x-250)= x-76, 3x=924, x=308

Edited by Tattarrattat
add alternative method: x=local stamps in the beginning

thx everyone!

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First, he estimated about 300 as the answer.

Next, he figured that 2X+250-76=2x+174

Then, he divided 174 by 3 because of this bar diagram:

[][][][/] He cancelled the last bar here.

[/] He cancelled this bar. That's how he got 3 bars.

He got 58 when dividing 174/3. Then he multiplied 58X4=232+76=308. So, it was close to the estimation.

Just another way of looking at it based on a 12 year old's thinking.

Blessing in your homeschooling journey.

Sincerely,

Karen

http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/testimony

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