melmichigan Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 If you teach 4 level analysis do you teach diagraming sentences in a traditional manner as well? My DD has learned 4 level analysis with MCT so I am curious if I should continue with that, or add in diagraming as in CW (which means I would need to learn it as well ;))? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I just got Rex Barks. We're using bits of it as a supplement to Practice Island sentences. I do like traditional diagramming and breaking apart the sentence does seem to help my son. He likes the visual of the subject | predicate | direct object I like the structure of diagramming, so that's why we'll do it some over the next few years. I don't think it's essential though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snickerdoodle Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Yes, we are doing both. I have my son diagram in CW (not all of the exercises, but about half) and we do some diagramming in Latin in addition to the 4 level analysis in MCT. It's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleWonders Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 We are doing both as well - 4-level analysis in MCT Island, and then traditional diagramming in FLL 3 and GWG 4 (only ds#1 right now - ds#2 will learn it next year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuovonne Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) I do 4 level analysis. I do *not* do traditional diagramming. I toyed with the idea of traditional diagramming because diagram excels at showing what modifiers modify and what conjunctions join. However, there are many aspects of diagramming that I dislike. You have to re-write the entire sentence to diagram it. You must start a diagram with the subject and verb, even if other parts are easier to identify. If you get one little part of a diagram wrong, that mistake can completely throw off how you position the diagram on the paper. Instead I extend the 4 level analysis to cover the missing concepts. I have DD draw arrows from modifiers to what they modify. So far that's adjectives, adverbs, and prepositional phrases. When we get to apositive phrases, I'll have her draw arrows for them too. I have DD draw arrows from conjunctions to what they join. I also have DD label objects in phrases. So far, that's just the object of a preposition, but eventually, I'll also have DD label objects in verbals. Edited October 13, 2010 by Kuovonne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I like the 4-level analysis. We still do diagramming however. We had started it in GWG but switched from GWG to MCT. Often when doing Practice Island, we discuss what the adjectives or adverbs are modifying, what type of prepositional phrase it is, etc. I like the idea of circling the adj, adv, or phrase and drawing an arrow to what it is modifying. One thing I need to do is to listen to SWB's MP3s again. In one of them, she emphasizes that diagramming is a tool to use to figure out what is wrong with a sentence. In the MP3, she gives a sentence and diagrams it. I've always listened to these in the car so I need to listen again at home when I can look at the slides in order to visualize to what she is referring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I've always listened to these in the car so I need to listen again at home when I can look at the slides in order to visualize to what she is referring. There are slides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siloam Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 If you teach 4 level analysis do you teach diagraming sentences in a traditional manner as well? My DD has learned 4 level analysis with MCT so I am curious if I should continue with that, or add in diagraming as in CW (which means I would need to learn it as well ;))? If your child is good at grammar, you don't necessarily have to master it. I can do up through verbals well, but I start getting a little fuzzy with the differences between gerunds, infinitives and such, but dd is doing fine in CW. I do allow her to correct her own diagram with the TM through. :D Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Yes, if you go to Peacehillpress.com and click on the MP3 you're interested in, there is a button that says "more info" or something like that and there are slides to download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Yes, if you go to Peacehillpress.com and click on the MP3 you're interested in, there is a button that says "more info" or something like that and there are slides to download. Wow. I purchased the MP3 a while back but had no idea there were slides. How nerdy am I considering that I'm all giddy with excitement in anticipation of watching the slides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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