I have looked into Shurley, but hear it is very teacher intensive. I heard that many kids can skip level 5 and go into level 6. And I am not sure about a placement test. I will have to check on that. Thank you:001_smile:

Hmmm, okay. Well, better rethink this then. Maybe I will just stick with Easy Grammar 6. We will have more grammar in IEW and our Latin Program as well.

To the other posters. THANK YOU. Garga made me see realize that I need to let it go, and pray and forgive. For myself if nothing else. And I agree that engaging with my SIL is just asking for more trouble after reading the responses. But since I *have* been speaking to MIL.(Albeit, in a strained manner). How do I just stop doing that? Going from talking to her about everyday events and politics,(where before we would discuss things going on in the family), to not talking at all? Should I still proceed to tell her how I feel, and let her take the lead with it? Not call her at all anymore? Not answer the phone any longer? How stupid of me to call a truce with her. I should have just stuck to my guns, and just let her go to.:confused:

:iagree: But how to knock her down a notch is the question.

I might take you up on that offer of reviewing my letter. If I should decide to write one, I will PM you. Thank you:)

:iagree: To a point. But she has pulled stuff like this before. And my MIL always, always takes her side. She does live within driving distance of me. But I can guarnatee if I went to her house, she would slam the door in my face, and call the cops. She can be very mean and vindictive. She has been like this her whole life. I know "I" am tired of having to go to her to smooth things over. One time she called here and screamed at me because I would call my MIL on the phone, and she would be on the other line with my SIL, and she would click over and speak to me. My SIL got so mad she called me and screamed "Don't you ever do that again!! YOUR conversation is not any more important then mine." Even though I never asked my MIL to hang up with her. I would just tell my MIL it would take a second, and she would say "On no, that's okay, let me get off the phone with....." So I called my SIL back, and apologized to her. And she said "Fine, just don't do it again" Even her siblings know how she can be. And I always stuck up for her. I will admit if I am wrong. But what she did, was wrong. Yes, it takes two to cause a family division, and one person has to come forward to make amends. But I cannot go back to they way things were, and after this, nothing will ever be the same. I would just like to know what I did that was so horrible thatshe felt the need to call me out and embarass me in front of everyone. I was on a message board asking ofr advice, like I am now. And she would follow me around, and print things out. Yes, it is a public board. Like this one, but it just sounds so creepy to me. {{{{Sigh}}}}}}} I just don't know. I guess alot of it is my pride. I was embarrassed. And there are many other things involved that would justify their feelings of me being "weak", if I came forward first. :confused: Thanks for letting me vent. and all the advice. I am listening to all sides and going to pray about it.

My MIL is speaking to me, but only because I am allowing it. I sent my MIL a nasty letter. YES, she knows EXACTLY what her daughter, my SIL is ticked off at. My MIL and I called a "truce". But that is all it is. My MIL refuses to speak of that event at all. She feels that people have a right to feel the way they want. Well, sure. I agree with that. People have a right to feel the way they want. But they do not have the right to do what she did. She didn't handle it properly. I can tell you that this happened on a family vacation. It was so bad, that my SIL, another SIL, and my MIL packed up and went home.(My MIL paid for the vacation like she does every year) . Myself, my husband and my kids, along with my other SIL who was screamed at and her husband and kids stayed the last two days. We didn't want to ruin our kids vacation. My SIL and my MIL are very close. And for some reason. my SIL feels like she needs to "take care of me and my other SIL" because both of us grew up without mother figures in our lives. My SIL is full of judgement. So this is probably why I feel as if I cannot continue this relationship with her. My other SIL, who is also my MIL daughter, is also not speaking to me. She told me to never contact her again. Even though I emailed her, and she would not tell me what all of this was about. It kills me that she handled it the way she did. And she even told my husband that she had "secrets about your wife that YOU don't even know about". What??? I have no secrets from my husband. This was all done in one room. My MIL backed her up and said "Apparently there has been alot of backstabbing going on in this family" looking at me, and my other SIL who I am still talking to. I need to air this out with my MIL, because she does not want to talk about it. But our realtionship is strained because it is swept under the rug, and she wants to pretend it never happened. I also don't think my SIL would respond to any email I send her. Which would probably tick me off even more. She really has caused a HUGE division in this family, and I do not even know ifd she realizes it.

She has admitted to me in the past that she is a type "A" personality. What really threw me for a loop is when I found out she was stalking me on my homeschool websites, and printing things out that I said(asking for advice) and showing them to my MIL. I know there was "one" thing I said to my other SIL that she confided(well sort of) in me with. But that was resolved last year! Yet she brought that up right in the middle of the room with all the in-laws. Oh, and yes my husband was there, and he got so mad at her, because he told her to stop, and she wouldn't, he slammed his fist down on the table and told her to shut up. My SIL still would not be quiet(and her husband didn't say a word), so my husband walked out of the room and I followe him. A few minutes later after my husband calmed down, he went back into that room and apologized to her for slamming his fist down, and she got right up in my husbands face and said "What are you going to do now, HIT ME??" Not even an acknowledgment of his apology. I admit, I am a blabbermouth, and can be. But I feel that if I did say something that I shouldn't have, she should have addressed ME alone. The fact comes down to now, that it has been two months, and I feel that maybe it doesn't even matter if I was in the wrong or not. It comes down to the way SHE handled it. THAT was wrong, IMO. And because my MIL stood in that room, and enabled her to do this, that just made her more justified in her actions. If "I" would have gathered up the family in one room and started screaming at one or two family members, my MIL would have told me to stop right then and there. She got away with it. My MIL let her get away with it. And so did her husband.

I am on the east coast(New England), and the water is just to cold here for it to do any real damage, so I wouldn't worry to much:001_smile:

Well, we have not done any "formal" grammar other then the Grammar in IEW. As far as vocab, I will keep SWO G, as that can be used as a vocab program as well as Spelling. Maybe we can give it a try. I am a little nervous about it. So if I come back in yelling and pulling my hair out, you will know why:D Thanks!

:iagree: I never watched the videos. I also do the Theme Based Units. And all the explanations are right there for you.:001_smile:

I posted a while back about a bad situation that happened between my MIL, SIL and myself. Basically, my SIL had a bee in her bonnet about something and corralled everyone in a room and started calling me a backstabber, among other things. She also claims she has some kind of "secret" about me that would be to embarrassing to even repeat. Since that time(in July) we have not spoken. To this day, I have no idea why she called me a backstabber, or what this secret even is. Her two girls are/were VERY close with my kids. That is the sad part about all of this. If I were to send her an email, or letter(I could not call her as she would slam the phone down on me I am sure), asking her WHY she even did this, and what got her in such a tizzy that she felt the need to call me out in front of the whole family. Would this mean, in your opinion, that I am giving her the impression that I want to make amends with her? I did not start this with HER. She started it with ME. It just bugs the you know what out of me, that I have NO idea what her issue is. I have no intention of having a relationship with her. But in a way, it would be nice if we could come to an agreement of at least being cordial because of the kids. But I do not want to make it look like "I" am the one who is buckling first, or care about re-establishing a relationship like we did before. Anytime she has been ticked at me, it has always been "me" who has gone to her first. OMG this sounds like such grade school stuff doesn't it? But I do not know what to do here. Oh, and I probably should mention that she was stalking me here on the computer(not this site) but other sites, and reading what I was saying about the fight we had, and showing it to my MIL. This was AFTER she screamed at me in front of the family(although who knows, she may have been doing it prior) I need help:confused:

:lurk5::D

I am thinking of using OMT and answer key instead of EG 6. We have been very light on Grammar these past years, and since dd is 11, I want to have one good year of Grammar, and then really start focusing more on the Lit/Writing. Can a person, like myself, who is "good" in Grammar, but really "stinks" in diagramming, do this program?(I do have Mary Daly's book, but I really do not want to "add" another LA book to our already heavy schedule) If you look in my siggy line, this is our line-up. Somehow, I get the feeling we may be way overboard on Language Arts. We are doing SWO G. But no Vocabulary since I will assume that our Latin program will help with that? Or no? :confused:

These were very helpful replies, Thank you!! Oh, and thank for the tip on the Donna Young Pages. I forgot about those, and I like them since they are free :-) I am determined to be organized this year with our schooling. !! I am going off to Wal Mart this week to get the plactic drawers. I will need these since many of our things are in a workbook, or large text. Thanks :D

I never watched or purchased any of the DVD's for the IEW program. My dd went through a quick co-op using the IEW theme based units, and we have been doing them ever since. We love IEW. And if you do not feel comfortable teaching IEW, I think the program is worth it,

Mindy, thanks for posting the pictures. I have an idea how I am going to set mine up. One question(of course maybe a silly one) Do you place the assignment of what you want your child to do in each workbox. So, for example: Workbox 1-Complete pages 1-3 in grammar book(and place the Grammar book/instructions in the workbox). Or, do you place the assignments on one sheet of paper? For example: Workbox 1:- Complete pages 1-3 in Grammar book. Workbox 2: Read pages 1-5 in literature books....etc??

Okay, will do :-) Thanks!:001_smile:

Seems to me I have alot in our Language Arts Department. Should I keep Spelling Workout G? Anything else that doesn't look right? Look okay? It is listed down in my signature line. Any and all criticism is welcomed, or any and all praise is okay too:D

I was reading this thread, and I have read about the workbox system. It is the same thing our public schools used to do.(budget cuts). (It could be where this author got her idea from, since this is not a new concept) But, I was wondering. Rather then spend money on boxes, and setting everything up, wouldn't it just be easier to write on a White Board, the child's assignments and they just check off what they have completed? It would seem to me, that this would give the child the same amount of independence and accomplishment. And less work and money for the mom?? Our PS have adapted this method and it works fine:)?? Thoughts?

Okay, so I am going to look into all of this. I think I am going to go with Latin Prep 1. I didn't know GP had a Greek Program as well. I liked the looks of Elementary Greek, but I am not sure dd will really like it, so we may stick with Hey Andrew, Level 2. I believe it is less expensive. We are going to do both. I know I can work it in. Thanks!:D

So what is the purpose of learning Greek anyways?(I really have no clue about this stuff:confused:) Should I start with Greek, and keep EFTRU just for a Latin Root Study for now? Or is it more important to focus on Latin and maybe work in Greek later? I don't think I shoud attempt both at once. And if Latin, which program?????? Can someone PLEASE help me decide? Lively Latin 1 or Latin Prep??(she is 11).

Thanks!!:D

She has now asked to learn Greek. Can we do Greek and Latin at the same time? The only Greek Curriclum I know of is Hey Andrew. She is 11. So is this a good program? Any others you can recommend?( I know ZILCH about Greek) Can she also do Latin along with Greek? Or only one at a time? If we can do both,I still cannot decide either between Lively Latin 1 and Latin Prep 1. They almost seem to be the same amount of money. LL 1 seems to offer more, but LP I think is more "rigorous"?? Opinions would be terrific. Thanks:D