Well Bibiche mentioned it over there behind that firewall, it was her way of rallying the troops. I stand by my point that that's twisted.

Yeah I wanted you to know, since you seemed so upset last time we spoke. I was too busy to respond to you. Real life stuff, kwim? Definitely not a good reason to shame me off these boards. Edit: No, everyone is not welcome on the politics forum.

So if I don't say anything else to anger You into labeling me again, you will let your pack know I am no longer to be considered a Hateful Racist Xenophone, and I won't be shamed or flamed off the boards by the wolf pack? Edit: that would be nice to know.

They are complaining about this post with the rolling smiley in another forum, where if you aren't a member you and the poster can't see them. Edit: which in my opinion is pretty twisted. I took their complaints to mean they found it shocking to see a roll smiley, I assume because they feel it's a rude response to something they take very seriously.... Genocide & fascism?

I did not vote with him. Your opinion of him does not mean you can label anyone else and attack them and come for "them." That's Hate too. By the way way back before I left last time, I was getting attacked for not answering questions from people who were attacking me. At the time, I did not have time to spend posting. So I was shamed for not answering. Because I didn't have time, I was busy in real life. ????????

Great quote bibiche, thanks for reminding me how important it is to stand up to Hate. so next time I see the Wolfpack of posters "coming for the so called Hateful Racist Xenophobes ,". I'll try to remember the importance of history and this quote. I have gotten so much good for me, my brand new homeschool, and my daughter from being on these boards and from the entire hive. It will be a real tragedy if that Wolfpack of posters succeeds in making me leave the boards again out of shame and anger. Calling someone a hateful racist xenophobe no matter if you think you are right or not, justified or not, is NOT ok. You want to call a KKK member that, be my guest. I would agree with you :)

ohmygoodness! I have a wood stove and badly need some fire starting paper! Lmao that is not what I would have thought of but quite a practical solution haha thanks! Cute :) I'm definitely doing the dance party! Tomorrow is also my birthday. Maybe I can dance on the table? Lol...

It's my first year homeschooling and I'm about to finish two subject books (half semester of SM done and full level 1 of AAS done yay!!!!!!!!!). I am so so excited and proud of my DD. I loved our start of year new tradition with a "walk to school" around the neighborhood and photos, probably ideas I got here! Does anyone have any fun (& simple) end of book traditions? Thanks! Edit: spelling

Ok, let's say you notice even though it seems in past lessons he has understood something he seems to be making lots of unexpected errors. Like he knows 8+8=16 and writes 8+7=16. With my DD she will get pretty peevish when she realizes she has to look at most of the problems again. But she obviously has to learn to double check and see if it makes sense before moving on. So If you noticed errors happening a lot, would you let him finish the review without interrupting, then circle 10 wrong questions and have him look at them all again or would you involve yourself somehow, if so how, or would you just say time to put math away for today and chalk it up to a bad day and try again tomorrow? For expectations / maturity it helps me to know, how old is your son if you don't mind? Thx,

I'm brand new to homeschooling, yes it helps! Thanks :) Yes, what I'm getting at Is what age level would the hive expect someone to be approaching the maturity to go from "I feel like I know this stuff, it's a little boring and I don't feel like doing it really so I won't apply myself/try" to "yeah i don't feel like doing this but I can apply myself anyway if I decide to so I have decided I want to turn my effort on and I will, because I know it's better in the long run than not trying," which personally I think if a valuable life skill I seek to cultivate daily - being able to decide to apply yourself to any task you resist doing for some reason. - that is. We face it all the time, like daily usually, when it comes to doing homeschool lessons of all kinds in general. She loves school and says she wants to do school and I really see her flowering, but the morning of school has to go from "I don't really feel like it right now, I'd rather play and watch TV" to "ok, I know this is best so I'll make the best of it and do it well!" Related to this, It's important to me that my DD 8 learn that taking shortcuts and being lazy just hurts her in the long run, kwim? So how do I tease out whether she's bein lazy and taking shortcuts, or whether she is trying just doesn't quite have the self control / maturity yet to turn her brain on at will? CadenceSophia, your personality picture helps me understand my own expectations, thanks :) In the bolded above, that sounds like us as well - both my DD's personality description of thinking she's finished then hating having to correct mistakes and my frequent hinting and little nudging to point out mistakes as we go. I'm having a very hard time grasping whether when she needs more of something from me, or just more maturity and time to develop understanding within herself kwim? ***How do you know when Frequently needing to break down problems / hint / re teach becomes continually, when you're not sure to begin with whether a) they really get the concept yet?? And b) they have the maturity and will needed to meet your expectations?

Thank you! :)

Do you stay near and advise them to fix mistakes as they happen in a review/test situation or let them do it fully independently and correct / go over it afterwards? The point is to give them a chance to show what they know, right? And review topics.... I know from doing the lessons what she has been able to do before, so she is showing what she can still do on her own, without help/reminders/scaffolding? In lessons sometimes I think I give hints, reminders, scaffold for her and I don't know if that's helping her or me being too helicoptery and hindering her. My 8 yr old DD 1st yr of homeschooling is doing ok to well with SM 1A we are finishing the first semester review. I've seen her make good progress with number sense and concepts lately. Today's review went terribly! Lots of errors. I was not at her elbow - part of me thinks immediate mistake catching in lessons is good but she should also get some experience with doing a "test" without assistance. When I tried to ask what happened, she says she just wasn't in the mood. I thought she was trying, it sounded like she was trying, but it's well below her usual ability I'm not really sure how to handle this, just start over from scratch on the review with a better attitude, and show her she has to decide to use her math mind & try? Or pull out the work she did, full of little errors she doesn't usually make and show her almost every problem has a mistake? Eek! thanks!

True, true! lucky for me I have a Costco sized bag of chips in my pantry lol!

oh thank you I can already tell this will be so fun :) no more whining, yippee! Sometimes I read the WWE and when we get to the questions I have no idea myself of the answer! Haha My only reservation is if I put the game away, will the whining come back in force and begging for more candy/games?

es, yes, and yes! My kid is usually very easy to teach too. Also I am not having to fight about every little thing thank God. Sometimes it's begging for a day off or begging to be done for the day but this just happens to bug her I think. i haven't been modeling it first but will try it, thx!

Wow thank you! What a dearth of encouragement. I have not tried the outline as source for presentation yet.. Just skim-read aloud the chapter. I'm gonna stop being lazy and try outlining :) presenting from books listed is also an excellent idea. Thank you all :) Sorry for the late response in thread, I've recently picked up my first hard copy book in awhile and I couldn't get my nose out of it! Also we've all been suffering with some kind of nasty super cold :(

My DD 8 yrs old is having trouble motivating herself to answer in complete sentences. We are half way through WWE lvl 1 and FLL lvl 1 in our first year of homeschool. By how much she resists using full sentences in speech, it's now obvious to me that we've never expected her to speak in full sentences before... She always just defaults to say the answer only. I have explained to her that it's an important step to help her be ready for writing, and I've also tried speaking back her fragments to her, showing her how they don't really "make sense" on their own without saying more: like who, or what you are talking about, not just the answer. I still get whining. She can do it well but some days begs to skip the full sentence requirement. I know if I give an inch here I'll be asking for more begging and whining so don't like to let the bar lower. It's getting to the point where even if I rephrase it and ask her to repeat it in a full sentence she is refusing to say it again. Anybody BTDT and have any insights here? Would you agree I need to keep firm on this, or would you let her drop the expectation?

I'll ask my just turned 8 yr old for you when I get home, see if she can provide any perspective hehee. Last winter she just had begun snowboarding, it is a family sport. She fell back on her wrists on the bunny hill and it was obviously more than just a "shake it off" moment. The nearby ski rescue guy checked her out - she was fine, but the wrist needed ice and rest - I remember she could not write at school for a few days and at first was tearfully afraid she'd never be able to write again (!) let alone ever want to snowboard again for fear of injury. My perspective: I immediately bought her wrist guards - should have had them for her from day 1. we had to take a very firm hand to get her through those tearful first attempts back on the hill. She was nervous, afraid, tearful at first. It was a bit hard for us too. I don't know if I could have done it alone. One parent is usually more quickly obeyed without question than the other. For us in our family that's the Daddy. Every family is different so for us, it was Daddy that had to get her through this stage very firmly, not me. She is so so happy she pushed herself through that mental barrier. She is very very brave now and has told me many times how glad she is that she kept trying. Even though we did force her she is glad it happened. Putting on the wrist guards helped her feel braver. There is other padded equipment maybe you could look into to help give a mental boost. I don't know if it'd help much but watching inspirational videos, athletes, seeing other people heal and keep trying may help?

Graded one way she got a B, another way she got an A... I'm going with A as my deductions are just things like missing one little step in instructions but all the problems are solved correctly, or not writing as legibly as she could.

Ok grading done :) thank you! I forgot all about rubrics, haha I always come across something helpful here to look into. Thanks Arcadia, Maize, & One Step

:) I am afraid I'll be opening up a can of worms. Or Pandora's box... And it's my first time ever grading a test ever, so it seems like a big deal! Especially for grade 1/2. I'm googling rubrics, lol I was thinking all I had to do was assign a few point per problem then knock off points from 100 for wrong ones.

I'm not going to start recording grades. This is only about handing her back a graded test with a letter grade at the top. Usually I give out smilies, check pluses, two check pluses if all mistakes self corrected or she's gone the extra mile. This is a little different. She is asking for a letter grade. She says she "wants to know what it feels like" and even if it's not an A it's ok LOL I think she just wants to feel a little grown up, KWIM? Watching too much Alvin & the chipmunks. I have the test in hand and she's expecting it to be graded when she wakes up haha so - what would the hive do? TIA

Fun! Disclaimer: I don't intend to mock speakers of Hawai'i Pidgin. I am also not mocking the Bible. I really find the idea of pidgîn English interesting, like I do all languages and how they "evolve" - i can imagine kids laughing at this and calling it dumb sounding or something, that's not how I want my recommendation to come across. I heard the Hawai'i Pidgîn English Bible read out loud once. I'll never forget it! It's unexpected and understandable. Plus if you are already familiar with a story like Moses or Noah's ark, you have a basis for comparison / understanding already. http://www.pidginbible.org/Concindex.html (Book of Exodus) Da Peopo Get Outa Egypt Da Israel Ohana Live Egypt Side (Jesus Guys 7:14) 11So da Egypt peopo wen make da Israel peopo dea slave guys. Dey wen give um mean kine luna guys. Dey give um real plenny work, an make dem feel jalike dey notting. Was da Israel peopo dat wen build two towns wit plenny warehouse inside fo da Pharaoh guy (dass how dey call da king guy fo Egypt, you know). Just a random excerpt but you get the idea :) I also liked hearing Beuwulf read out loud in Old English

Thank- you Monica!

Level 1A, I am using the HIG, Textbook/workbook and have the Intensive Practice but not using it all the time yet. I'm saving some for review rather than for use alongside the topic. I think next semester I'll try the Word Problems instead of IP. Any feedback you have on supplemental books is appreciated! - We are both enjoying it. Question: I'm a bit overwhelmed at the number of mental Maths the HIG is assigning on top of the workbook problems. I'm doing flash cards weekly but want to do flash cards daily or every other. It feels like too much sometimes. I'm not finding time to get to any of the "fun stuff" lately like the games and activities and again, not finding time for flash cards more than weekly. I'm reluctant to skip the mental Maths because they don't just seem like busy work - every question seems to make a connection / step. They are not always as quick as I'd like them to be but they seem quite important not just for concept but for speed, confidence, fluency (?) or some such. How do you do / use the mental math sheets if you use the HIG, or how important do you feel it is to get to them? Do you do one per day or more to keep up, or save them and rotate in later as a form of review? I'd love any advice you may have for weighting our time or attention or otherwise prioritizing my efforts between doing these! Flash cards (frequency?) Lesson incl. textbook / workbook Mental math Intensive practice supplement Thank you in advance!