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See, that's not what I meant. I didn't say (not do I believe) that women who are feminists or who don't colour their hair etc are fake. I'm just trying to describe personal experiences with a certain type of a person (in my case, women) and my own perplexity of WHY they appear fake to me, while all the actual atributes, taken on their own, are admirable (to me). It is not about the their attributes, it is just something else.

And another thought--is it possible to be ALL THAT, *and* totally authentic? Or is there something to this combination that is by definition "fake"?

Yes. But what does this all mean, all together? I don't think I'm judging, at least not in a negative/ derogatory way. Everyone is on their own journey, and this is where they need to be, i.e. they are doing their best to make sense of world or just survive. But I've been thinking whether I imagined this particular "type" or is it just me who sees them this way due to my own issues, or whether there's something to it, in general.

:grouphug: Why? Why would you care what others think? It is more about them, than about you, right?

Well, I really don't suspect a drastic personality change behind the closed doors. I suspect the same level of la-dee-dah, only it is just not sincere?

But I don't find "other" women to be as fake?

I'd like to try to put my finger on it!

YES!!

I've thought about this possibility a lot. And yet I don't think that that's it. DD15 sees them too. We can now pick them out and we call them "A Celine" after the first one we met. There's a certain something that unites them, which I think is independent of myself.

Let me try to explain. There's a type. Some similarities. And yet I'm not sure what makes me see them as "fake." Some characteristics are typically superficial, but this goes deeper, and yet I'm not sure how. Superficially they are gray haired (if older); they wear no make up. They speak softly. They move flowingly. They appear centered, wise, introspective, mindful. They might be "spiritual" or talk to animals. They are viscerally offended by any violence / force and call themselves "empaths." I've met quite a number of them. My first reaction is to be drawn to them and admire them--I too would like to achieve certain level of mindfulness. My second reaction, which comes quite quickly, is that they are utterly fake. In what way? I don't know. It is not that they are trying to dupe me, but there's something off-putting, almost skin-crawling, in how they *are.* Which is interesting, because in theory, that's how I'd like to be (the first impression of them) and I'm slowly moving towards something that I consider being more mindful, living simpler life, being more attuned with myself and nature. Is it *them* who are fake, or I'm not seeing them as they are (sincere and authentic?) Have you met such "fake authentic" women? Do you feel you are leading this kind if mindful life and believe that you are authentic? Does anyone know what I'm talking about???

6-7? They use nail clippers (as opposed to manicure scissors).

The property's assessment is listed as 1/3 of the asking price, but we were told that that's normal for rural properties. ???

We are putting our rental property on the market this week. It is move-in ready (but also not a fancy place--just nice place in a working class area). We will find out in the next couple of days if this would be enough for a contingent offer.

How do I look those up?

We don't want to sell if we can't buy that farm!

Have you done this? What percentage? Was it what your realtor recommended? How can you trust your realtor? The property that we like has been for sale for 6 years. For the first 4 years with a massive amount of land, and the price reduced every 6 months or so. For the last 2 years the land size was reduced as well, and the price went down again, most recently 8 months ago. The price went down by $60,000 in those two years. In the last two years, according to the records, it seems that there was only 1 offer and it didn't go through (not sure of the reason yet, but implied that it was the buyer's financing). There was also one offer that didn't go through in the previous 4 years. We were told by well meaning friends to offer 20% below the asking price (which would be $50,000 below). Our realtor says that because our offer will be conditional on us selling our house first, we should start at 10% below the asking price. He feels that $50,000 below is insulting for our area. It does sound really bad to offer $50K less than they are asking, considering that only recently they were asking much more. The house is not maintained well and is probably quite unattractive to most people who like spotless and pretty. They still live there. It is messy, dirty (country-dirty) and not fully finished. I know she wants to sell it, and I heard she would sell for $30,000 below the asking price. But on the other hand she doens't have to sell it now--it is her family land and the house was built by her parents, and I'm pretty sure it is all paid off. She does have a place to go. She looked tired of selling, but friendly (we had to talk to her about the rest of the property and she took us for a nice walk.) WWYD?

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Thank you for the update. I'm sorry it is not a better one, but at least it seems that solutions haven't been exhausted yet. I think about your DD often (I have a horsey DD myself)...Wishing your DD complete healing. I'm sorry that this has been such a long and painful experience.

I really appreciate all the stories. Some issues are non-issues for us....Some are food for thought. Lots to think about.

I'm terrified and exhausted to just think about this. I was very high energy and motivated just 5 days ago. Maybe I need a breather.

yes

:lol: :lol: :lol: True! It happened already! I guess I've been in that area a lot visiting friends and boarding hoarses.

I'm thoroughly intrigued by where Kinsa lives. Someone save me and give me a hint! :w00t: ETA: nm, saw the siggy! ETA#2: How do people get to live in National Parks? Do you have to work for them?

I'm 30 plus minutes away from many things in my city lol Ironically, we drive for 40 minutes for the kids' piano lessons (from one end of the city to another) and it would be about 55 minutes from the farm to the teacher. So really, not much longer.