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1 hour ago, Ktgrok said:
Keep in mind that in many places deaths are not reported until weeks and weeks after the actual death. In my state, you could look at say, yesterday's data, June 9th, and it may say 15 deaths. But in a week from now, if I go back and look at June 9th' data they will have updated it and now it says 50 deaths. And in a month from now if I look it may say 100 deaths. The CDC specifically says that due to the time it takes for death certificates to be released, autopsies, reporting agencies to send things and then process them, etc it can take 2-8 weeks to get accurate (ish) death numbers. And that may never include people that died at home of say, a heart attack or stroke, who were not tested. And some areas are just flat out not reporting - I know some counties in my state won't release that info.
If someone dies at home of a heart attack or whatever, why should that be classified a Covid death? Even if they test positive at the post-mortem, would that count?
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4 hours ago, CuriousMomof3 said:
I haven't heard or read the actual comment in its original context, but as a white woman who considers herself a decent ally of POC, I think an asymptomatic virus is a powerful metaphor for racism.
One of the things about the virus, is that it makes ordinary actions, things that we do without thinking, like singing or standing close to someone, or scratching our nose, potentially dangerous. And that danger is disproportionate, with some groups in society, such as people with medical disabilities experiencing far more danger than other groups. I don't think that someone who forgets the new rules, and wipes their hair out of their eyes, or shakes someone's hand without thinking is "an ableist". I don't think they're thinking "oooh, I don't care about CMom3's son", but their actions still contribute to the current of ableism in our society that denies my kid full participation in society by making it unsafe for him to leave our home. Because I believe that someone can be a good person, a well meaning person who shares my values, and still act in ways that put my child in jeopardy, I support the idea of educating society as a whole about the virus, rather than focusing on judging individuals. I also support the idea of establishing new norms of behavior, whether that's waving instead of shaking hands when we pass the peace at church, or wearing masks, or having instrumental music instead of singing in certain situations.
For a white person, who grew up in a relatively segregated place, like most of us do, we also have habits and behaviors that we think of as ordinary that have the potential to disproportionately impact POC. So, for example, I might choose to shop at certain places, because I go to church with their owner, or because the owner's kids go to my kids' school, or because they live close to me, and, because I'm living in a segregated place, inadvertently end up spending a large portion of my income at business that are owned by white people. This doesn't make me a racist, but if I continue the practice, and don't examine the implications of my choices, my behavior leads to continuing racial disparities in my community. So, just like I support education about the virus, and new habits to diminish its impact, I support education about racism, and new habits to diminish its impact.
Sorry, if this makes no sense, I'm very sleepy.
It makes sense. Thank you for taking the time to write such a thoughtful explantion. You've given me something to chew on.
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25 minutes ago, debinindy said:
The same could be said about Candace Owens...although she did say b*llsh*t
Yikes! I've never heard of any of these people!
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15 minutes ago, Corraleno said:
The "virus" is cultural and it's real. If a white person's knee-jerk response to a black man who is angry about yet another murder of a black man by police is "how dare he insult white people," that pretty much illustrates his point.
Well, I don't know that her reaction was knee-jerk. I think she was pointing out that what he said was incredibly unhelpful.
Again, it's understandable that Van Jones is angry, but consigning all white folks to the "they're so sick they can't see the truth" category is wrong. It's... racist. (Imo, it was actually kind of a weird, stupid thing to say, but he was angry, and I can definitely understanding saying something stupid when you're mad. BTDT, got the t-shirt, etc.)
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OP, I think the answer to your title question is "Yes", at least in general terms.
Fallen, sinful human nature. All races. No exceptions.
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4 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:
The appalling thing is that someone would crook their lips to complain and be offended by someone speaking their truth, NOT using profanity, in a way that makes them feel shame. A HIT DOG WILL HOLLER. Why is he wrong for holding up a mirror? This is who you are. This is what you do. It's ugly. LOOK. This is what is happening in YOUR name, to protect and serve you. Crime rates have fallen for the last 30 years and certainly didn't exist at this 1980s level during Reconstruction but it doesn't matter. The narrative is set. The same rhetoric is used. The die are cast. The policy choices and opinions you hold as a group are largely based on these assumptions. There's no irony in pointing out the deformation of character and conscience that racism has caused.
I think I see where you are coming from, though I'm not a huge fan of the "speaking their truth" thing.
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1 minute ago, Corraleno said:
Maybe Van Jones assumed that most people understand what a "metaphor" is. Apparently he was wrong.
I do understand that he is employing metaphor. It's still directed at the people of one race, and it's still intended to diminish those people, as if there's no hope for them. (White people just don't get it... they can't help it... they have a sickness in their brains... etc.)
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1 hour ago, Sneezyone said:
When you consign Van Jones, who is by most movement accounts, a raging moderate, to the loony pile I know there's a problem with your circle. Expand it. People are ANGRY. And anger makes people say things and lash out in ways that under normal circumstances they might temper. He used WORDS. And his words are just too much for delicate sensibilities. What you're hearing now is the uncensored version. The one that doesn't spare your feelings. The one that doesn't try to convert you. The one that has given up on you. It's not like white people have been standing up lo these last three years to condemn the WORDS AND DEEDS that have been hurled at minorities by the people in positions to ACT (unlike Jones). Get a grip already. You are not the victim here. I know there are TONS of people here and elsewhere who may think I'm nuts (and racist) for openly saying that I do not trust white women. Situations like this are a direct example of why. When crap hits the fan, they rarely have the moral clarity to put what they THINK know about LEOs, as individuals OFF the clock, in a different bucket from what we also know, empirically, about SYSTEMS of maltreatment in which they actively participate.
She didn't consign Mr. Jones to the loony pile. She said she was appalled that he would say something so divisive -- because he had an opportunity to bring calm to situations in which peaceful protestors and honorable police officers are being hurt. Instead, he fanned the flames of hatred and bigotry.
If white people have a virus in their brains that makes them racist, wouldn't it be true from a non-racist position that we ALL have such a virus? I'm sure he was upset - understandably so - but he is wrong to paint all of us who are white with the same broad brush.
The irony...
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These list-type threads are my absolute favorites! Whether it's Christmas gift ideas or Covid-19 indulgences, I find myself posting to say, "I love this thread". It's just that I'd never stopped to think about why I enjoy them so much.
They include great ideas and innovations that hadn't occurred to me before, of course, but I think I love them because they're so positive and empowering. Gaining control or finding joy, even in small, simple ways, can be a game changer for me.
Thank you @JoyKM for starting this thread and to everyone who contributes!
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So, could I ask why anyone would do this? It may tell you that you've had it, but I thought they weren't yet sure that having it confers immunity.
Just curious. thanks. 🙂
ETA: I haven't read the whole thread yet.
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Texas A&M plans to start classes a week early (Aug 19th) and end before Thanksgiving. If I'm reading it right, final exams will be online. Move in will be staggered. I wonder about food service -- those cafeterias and kiosks are crowded.
They are also planning hybrid classes and may extend the class week through Saturdays.
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3 minutes ago, Starr said:
I find the solution of, if it bothers you stay home, particularly sad in church. I feel like we should do our best to include all ages and stages. If this means giving up singing for a year or whatever it's the least we can do. We are asking the very people that kept the church going for many years before the rest of us arrived to now not participate. We are a church that sings, in a diocese that is still sorting out it's policy.For now we are still online.
I agree. For many people, the church is the only family they have.
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1 hour ago, Happy2BaMom said:
This was just forwarded to me:
Study: "Loud talking could leave coronavirus in the air for up to 14 minutes" (link to MIT Technology Review)
There's a few annoying pop-ups, so I'll reprint the summary here:
The news: Thousands of droplets from the mouths of people who are talking loudly can stay in the air for between eight and 14 minutes before disappearing, according to a new study. The research, conducted by a team with the US National Institutes of Health and published in PNAS Wednesday, could have significant impact on our understanding of covid-19 transmission.
What’s the point: Respiratory viruses like SARS-CoV-2 are transmitted either by direct contact or when the virus hitches a ride on tiny droplets released into the air by a carrier. That’s why coughing and sneezing are important. But speech can release thousands of oral fluid droplets into the air too, and the researchers were interested in seeing how many were produced and how long they could remain airborne.
The findings: The researchers asked people to repeat phrases and used sensitive lasers to visualize the droplets they produced, watching them decay in a closed, stagnant air environment. On the basis of previous studies of how much viral RNA can be found in oral fluids in the average covid-19 patient, the researchers estimate that a single minute of loud speaking generates at least 1,000 virus-containing droplets. Their observations suggest these droplets stay airborne for longer than eight minutes, and sometimes as long as 14 minutes.
Further info, including limits & implications, available through the link.
Well, there go the holiday gatherings with the extended fam. 🙃
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We've brought in takeout at least once a week since April to support our local restaurants. My elderly mom is staying with us, so I understand your concern.
At first, we wiped down containers or transferred them to our own dishes (sliding pizzas onto parchment paper on the kitchen counter). We don't remove things from their containers anymore since surface contamination isn't the problem we once thought it to be.
I am a little leery of uncooked foods, such as salads, but hot foods are fine with me.
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So beautiful! They bring tears to my eyes.
Congratulations! 🙂
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Have any of your students requested a re-take? Have they heard anything from CB?
Ds is still waiting on word that they'll let him retake Physics C.
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1 hour ago, Dotwithaperiod said:
My son has been home for over 2 months, so I’ve been indulging him, baking cookies and TexMex every few days, making frozen drinks, staying up until 1am watching tv; we bought some watercolors and acrylics and we paint most afternoons. I’m just about ready to get this shower curtain, tho I’ve never considered spending that much $ for one. And then I’ll need new towels...
Gorgeous!
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I love this thread!
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Taking very long walks with my dog nearly every day is something I normally wouldn't have time to do. There's a small university campus near my house, and we head that way a lot. Almost all of the students are gone, but the maintenance workers and campus police are around. It's quiet and there's lots of shade.
It makes me happy to be there and to be outdoors.
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You must be an awesome MIL! I would love some pointers because I may become one later this year.
I predict that you will win your grandson over as well. 😉
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10 minutes ago, MissLemon said:
I think it's so stupid this has become a political issue.
I could also do with 100% less of people insisting that because their little corner of the world is humming along nicely that anyone else who's experiencing a problem must be exaggerating, misunderstanding, or outright lying about what's happening. 😠
FWIW, I'm not insisting on that. (You may be talking about someone else.) I'm just surprised that you are quietly going about your business in a mask and that your fellow small-town citizens are calling you names and yelling at you. I believe you, it's just mind-boggling.
Again, I'm sorry that has happened to you.
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32 minutes ago, MissLemon said:
I live in a small town between San Antonio and Austin. My husband is a native Texan from another small town in Victoria county, and his friends there are reporting the same thing; being challenged and insulted while wearing a mask at the store. These are also native Texans.
Up until covid, people in these towns were super nice and friendly. It was one of the best parts of living here and made life very stress-free. Since covid, I've seen some of the most horrendous, rude behavior I've ever witnessed in my entire life. Like, a woman screaming at the clerk at the post office because the 6 ft social distance markers on the floor made the line too long, and people yelling at each other in HEB over lord knows what. It was loud enough that the entire front of the store stopped and stared.
I've been called a socialist, a nazi, a "sheeple". I was also the topic of a lecture from a homeschool dad at the store to his son. The kid recognized me but the dad did not. I felt bad for the kid because he looked mortified as his dad banged on about how people like me don't have critical thinking skills and react only to fear, like an animal.
I'm not sure why you brought up legal enforcement or why you assume what my stance would be on that matter. It feels like you are trying to bait me into an argument about the constitutionality of this situation, and I'm not interested in that fight.
I'm very sorry you have had these experiences. I should have known better than to include info about being a native and expecting people to be (generally) kind here. I've traveled a fair bit, and most people (at least everywhere I've been) are generally kind, though in times of great stress, anger (which is often just fear acting out) does surface.
I brought up legal enforcement only because you mentioned that your town is planning a public Independence Day celebration at which you said masks and distancing are recommended but won't be enforced. I gathered, perhaps incorrectly, that you thought this unwise, so I pointed out that your town cannot legally enforce either.
It really isn't my style to try to bait anyone into an argument. I'm not a hostile person. I just thought I was sharing my point of view and I apologize for making you angry.
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3 minutes ago, TCB said:
Well this time I may be able to let you know what happens because this is my back yard. Great if the risk outside is low but they will also be crowded together inside. I’d love to think they’ve analyzed the risk and are only crowded together outside with lots of chlorine splashing around.
Yeah, my next door neighbor works at a CVS pharmacy. She was sent home a month or so ago because one of the employees had tested positive. She hosted a party that weekend! Argh! People in and out of her house and in the backyard. We were under county stay-at-home orders at the time, so she shouldn't have been having a party anyway.
It all seemed to be okay in the end, but she took quite a chance.
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Smallest, most quiet window air conditioner
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Not a window unit, but we have a ductless AC (and heater) that we attached to the wall. It's high above the opening from our kitchen to a large sunroom and eat-in kitchen area the previous owner added to the house. The HVAC for the rest of the house keeps that half of the downstairs warm enough during our mild winters, but summers were uncomfortable.
It's pretty quiet -- I forget it's on -- and it cools the large area well.
Here's a link to the unit. we've had it for about five years:
https://www.acwholesalers.com/Mitsubishi-MSZ-GL12NA-U1/p65041.html?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=catchbingpla&msclkid=0acc209e076712b5b76e7e41ed87e490&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%23BSC - Catch - Brand&utm_term=4581046486161887&utm_content=adg1 - Mitsubishi&