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1 hour ago, HeighHo said:
Brooklyn and Orange County...communities that did not participate in the social isolation request or the no large group meeting request
HeighHo: Where are you getting county-specific information?
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1 hour ago, Arcadia said:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/coronavirus-covid19-italy-death-toll-tops-4000-12562212
“The mayor of the most badly affected city, Bergamo in the affluent northern region of Lombardy, said the true number of fatalities from the pandemic in his area was four times higher than was officially reported so far.
"Many of the elderly are dying in their houses or in old people's homes, without anyone testing them either before or after they die," Giorgio Gori told the Huffington Post.
He added that a dozen mayors of other cities had confirmed the same thing to him.
Responding to requests by the governors of the worst-hit regions, the national government in Rome said that from Saturday all parks would be closed and people could only take exercise around their homes.”
Why is it so bad in Italy? This has probably been discussed on this thread, but I haven't seen it. Why are they being hit so hard?
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47 minutes ago, Lanny said:
What I am reading about filing a Claim on "Travel Insurance" if one wants to cancel a trip, because they are concerned or afraid, is that the Travel Insurance company will deny the claim.
Probably better to deal with American Airlines. They are not in good shape financially, but hopefully won't go into bankruptcy soon.
At this time, I believe the major U.S. air carriers in the best financial positions are SPIRIT AIRLINES and possibly also SOUTHWEST AIRLINES.
My impression, from what I am reading about "Travel Insurance" in the Google Feed on my phone the past few days is that it probably is not a good way to spend money. (I worked for airlines for 5 years when I was young and then I worked for a Travel Agency for one year so I have an almost lifelong interest in the airline business).
Note: I suspect things in NYC might be more interesting for Tourists in May 2020 than they are now (March 2020) and I would wait until 30 days before departure, before making a final decision about whether or not to postpone that trip.
That's kind of what I thought, regarding the travel insurance. Dh has already spoken to American, and that no-fee change through Dec. 31 was all they offered.
I hope you are right, for the people who live there, that the situation will improve by May. (I feel selfish for even asking about stuff like this.)
Thank you for the reply.
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My family had planned to visit NYC in May. We purchased our tickets (on American Airlines) some time ago, and dh bought travel insurance. Has anyone had recent success with filing travel insurance claims? Or any experience at all?
Dh called American, and they said we can use the tickets to go anywhere else (domestically, maybe? He didn't ask.) as long as we use them this year. After 2020, we would have to pay change fees.
Thoughts?
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1 hour ago, Ausmumof3 said:
I didn't think that younger people wouldn't get it or that some wouldn't become seriously ill (unfortunately). I did understand that the death rate among young people (in their twenties and thirties) was very low. Is there evidence to the contrary?
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30 minutes ago, mlktwins said:
Spryte, I haven't done the delivery thing yet and wasn't going to order any for this reason. But..I think I'm going to try and stick to things already contained. Strawberries and blueberries, grapes are usually bagged, bagged apples, potatoes, onions. Lettuce should be covered and spinach and other mixed salads come in bags and plastic containers. Carrots can come in bags. Whole watermelons when the time comes (not cut up until they've sat for awhile and then washed). Same with cantaloupe. Oranges come bagged. I'm going to try and stay away from the loose stuff.
I have a microbiologist friend who used to work for our county health department. She washes all of her produce in water and dish soap to remove as much pesticide as possible, and also to remove contaminates. If soap and water works on hands and dishes, I don't know why it wouldn't work on fresh spinach.
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55 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said:
Actually, while I am sad that hospitals are already running out of supplies etc., I am impressed at the resilience that some are showing in finding other solutions to the problem. That's what we all need: resilience. Yes, it's a tough time. And will be for awhile - not only for acute problems but the fallout and the slow rebuilding afterwards. But the people who are going to make it - no matter their age - are the ones who learn to count their blessings, to reach out to others (while maintaining social distance - we are after all living in a time of technology), who learn to think of the greater good and not only their own situation. Even now in our country, we have so much more than some people have ever had. As Pen said, we can do this.
This. Thank you, Jean (and Pen).
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President Trump has invoked the Defense Production Act, which I think is a wise move.
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5 minutes ago, Homeschool Mom in AZ said:
It's a reference to the story of Job from the book of Job in the Old Testament.
Job 1: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan[b] also came among them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.” 8 And the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?” 9 Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “Does Job fear God for no reason? 10 Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.” 12 And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.
If you haven't read the book of Job, you probably won't get how contrary to the message it is that people use it as a way to pray that someone would avoid suffering. Not that that's a bad thing to pray for, it just doesn't fit with the context of the book of Job. The book of Job is about the suffering of a godly man who remains faithful to God even in his suffering.You beat me to it.
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Dallas public schools are closing indefinitely. Most (all?) other schools, including universities, are closed for extended spring break. Some plan to transition to online learning afterward.
Drive through testing began today for first responders, health care workers, and patients at Parkland Hospital (Dallas' large county hospital). Officials have expressed hope that two more drive through testing sites will open later this week.
Current count of cases in three most populous DFW counties (some still technically presumptive):
Dallas County - 19
Tarrant County (FW area) - 9
Collin County (Plano area) - 8Texas has 85 confirmed cases. Population: 28.7 million
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32 minutes ago, Pen said:
Our Area food pantry has changed to meals on wheels type delivery with no direct contact between driver and recipient. Or to pick ups , but no go in and browse or food kitchen group meals. Donations can be by drive up, drop off and leave without close contact at our closest Good Will, which can get items to Food Pantry or elsewhere.
We're doing the same thing here. I'm glad, too, because most of our volunteers are retired folks.
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1 minute ago, StellaM said:
Slightly amusing story today after kind posters like @DoraBora did a little bit of CBT on me (where's the evidence?)...my dad took me shopping and the first thing he said was 'we're going to make the kids' bank accounts one to sign in case you die.' It actually made me chuckle a bit, he pulls no punches.
Thanks, Dad! 😊
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21 minutes ago, Lucy the Valiant said:
I agree.
MA just closed all restaurants, all events > 25 people, including churches, through April 17. Through Easter.
Surreal just got surreal-er.
Will those restaurants be allowed to deliver food?
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2 hours ago, mumto2 said:
I have debated posting but going for it.
Little bit of context to go with the U.K. decisions. Not sure I really agree with any of them but sort of get how they were made. My family’s village is in the north and the area known nationally for having the worst services and management, possibly in the entire country. Lots of coal mine poverty. I am speaking from what I know from living there for many years......other places may be different but for most pretty close.
First, our village has a fairly high percentage of elderly. Many live in homes they bought in the 1970’s . Sort of congregated together.
Generations do not leave the basic area........Grandparents and great grandparents are the afterschool and holiday care for most. A school closure will mean that many of those people will take those kids for the duration. It’s one of the things I love about the culture but can see how it. Is going to stress the hospitals because theelderly are all going to be exposed. ........I actually think they have a point about putting it off as long as possible.
The elderly, on a humorous note I keep thinking of all the free bus passes not in use. They keep moving the age but around 70 you get a free bus pass anywhere in the country and they are used. The busses from 10 to 3 are sort of old people party buses with people chatting all over, a social gathering. Kids on busses too if schools close so the mix would not be great even for those not watching grand kids. It’s sad to think of them shutting themselves in and probably somewhat voluntary.........neighbors are still going to have a good chat pegging their clothing out on nice mornings....if it isn’t raining it qualifies as nice. Grocery delivery etc with a volunteer force I think will work assuming they have enough volunteers. These people are all of a WWII mindset and many are going to burn up the phone lines and “do their part”. Personally this one brings me comfort in the fact I am not going to have to worry about some elderly friends quite as much!
So, is this over-70 isolation thing in the UK an official policy? I thought it was a rumor from a tabloid journalist.
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19 minutes ago, StellaM said:
A complicating issue when you are high risk with lung issues, is that you don't have lung function to spare. Disability is also a risk. So it's not just death, but also the risk of being unable to live a somewhat normal life upon 'recovery'. We also don't know how the virus will impact on the underlying lung disease; for people with lung disease, it seems likely that a severe pnuemonia will worsen the damage present already. Future fibrosis is another scary possibility.
You make a good point. There is so much we just don't know yet. I'm very sorry that you must deal with this worry.
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54 minutes ago, StellaM said:
Fair enough.
But seriously, those of us excluded from the 'most' have to be responsible for not bring other people down with our 'negativity'?
No. You aren't responsible for anyone else's feelings. I do think that focusing on the bad news is not helpful to you or your health.
How can you know that you're excluded from the category of folks who will make it through? When I read that the death rate (for instance) for persons over 80 who become infected is about 20%, that means 80% of them survive. Doesn't it? (Am I wrong about that? Whenever something seems obvious to me, I have to wonder...) And it isn't the case that everyone will be infected. A good many of the elderly and people with serious underlying conditions will also make it through.
You have a lot to deal with, and I'm sorry you feel alone in that. I wish you and I could sit down with mugs of tea and have a good long chat.
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17 minutes ago, StellaM said:
Lots of people won't make it through. That's a fact.
Most people will make it through. Yes, people are suffering, and some are dying. The numbers we see represent real people and it is a sad, sad situation.
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28 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:
More airport chaos - dfw airport
https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonWhitely/status/1238986444615618561
This makes me want to cry.
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1 minute ago, StellaM said:
I'm drowning today.
Just...no-one can tell me how I am supposed to manage my own high risk, a 60% drop in income, and the kids' dad's sudden at-home dialysis, when I have to go to work in the schools they won't close, with the kids parents won't keep home, and then not get frustrated when posters come in and spread harmful advice. The new thread, someone already said it was just for people with options.
{{{{StellaM}}}}
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15 minutes ago, StellaM said:
This is literally the only thread on this board where I feel like I can express my (reasonable) fears and frustrations.
I did not know till today that it was only meant for news.
If most people want to keep it for news, I'll respect that, but I'm feeling pretty sorry for myself right about now and people are just going to have to give me a pass for any tone change that occurred prior to me knowing it's just a news thread. I thought it was news, personal experiences and advice.
Well, I like the mix of news and discussion. There are plenty of places to see news only. I want to know what people from different places and viewpoints *think* about that news. I also like the local/national angles. Just my $0.02.
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1 minute ago, Iron Jenny Flint said:1 minute ago, square_25 said:
Hmmm. I really hope people do NOT flood all the remaining open "fun things to do"! 😕
Yes. I also really hope they don't get their prevention advice from the Herald. Love the last one. (smh).
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If you do decide to go to one of the locations above, make sure to follow the Centers for Disease Control’s tips on the best ways to prevent being exposed to the virus:
▪ Clean your hands often: Wash your hands frequently with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, use a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol and avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth.
▪ Avoid close contact: Put distance between yourself and other people.
▪ Cover coughs and sneezes: Cover your mouth and nose with a tissue or use the inside of your elbow, throw used tissues away and immediately wash your hands or sanitize them.
Wear a facemask if you are sick: If sick wear a facemask when you’re around other people. If not, you do not need to wear one.
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1 hour ago, Happymomof1 said:
My husband is probably high risk, but he and my daughter are not here. I came back early to be with him. My daughter who did not get her flu shot this year. ( She was 18 and though we have required it every year before, we thought she was an adult so we shouldn't force her.) I'm actually the healthiest with no risk factors though I am mid fifties. My husband and daughter have asthma and so we don't want to give anything to them. I may have to try that. I definitely shouldn't be reading the thread about people having to take morphine because they cannot breathe... Oh my goodness. That is HORRIBLE!!!!
@Happymomof1
I agree that you need to stop reading this. You probably need to have a news fast as well -- at least for a few hours. Check out the Happiness Thread on this forum.
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2 hours ago, prairiewindmomma said:
UK to order four month isolation for elderly: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-elderly/uk-to-order-four-month-isolation-for-elderly-itv-idUSKBN21114G?il=0
2 hours ago, Thatboyofmine said:Four months isolation for 70+????? That is inhumane.
It hasn't been officially ordered, but was "revealed" to a journalist named Robert Peston by an unnamed senior government official.
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wuhan - coronavirus
in The Chat Board
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Amendments to current Dallas County (Texas) proclamations:
In a Saturday night press conference in the Dallas County Administration Building, Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins explained the new amendment to his previously enacted proclamation about community gatherings and urged folks to not buy more toilet paper than they need.
"It's a surreal time that we live in when I'm having a press conference when I'm spending a lot of time on toilet paper, OK? But there is not a supply chain problem with the toilet paper. Folks, we are the problem with the toilet paper. When I say 'we,' I mean shoppers are the problem with the toilet paper."
A new limit on toilet paper sales will go into effect starting midnight, when all sales of bath or toilet paper in Dallas County are limited to 12 rolls per purchase or one package per purchase, whichever is greater.
Jenkins also urged people to not take every item off the shelves at grocery stores for those who may not have enough at home.
"We've got to move from selfishness to sacrifice," Jenkins said.
Judge Jenkins also ordered closure of all salons, barber shops, tattoo parlors, etc., in which a six-foot distance from the customer could not be maintained. All elective dental and medical procedures are prohibited in Dallas County until further notice. All public or private recreational or community gatherings are also prohibited.
Dallas County confirmed total: 95 cases