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15 hours ago, Murphy101 said:
The Church already offers dispensation to the infirm or the ailing and to those who need to be their caregivers. It always has. People may need sternly reminded of that by their bishops, but there doesn’t need to be a special dispensation.
I’m pretty hard core that there is never a good enough reason for the RCC to refuse to have mass entirely. How far will this go? No anointing of the sick/last rites? No baptisms or confirmations?
Dallas' Bishop offered a dispensation yesterday to people deemed high risk by the CDC -- the particulars are listed in his statement (people over 60, with chronic illnesses, etc.).
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Dallas County has five additional presumptive positives. Gatherings (in Dallas County) of more than 500 people are prohibited beginning at 11 am central time today through March 20th, unless it's extended.
Mayor of the city of Dallas has declared a state of emergency. UT Dallas begins spring break next week, and that break has already been extended to two weeks with online classes following.
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1 hour ago, Lanny said:
Our family believes the Corona Virus is very dangerous and some travel plans were changed in January. I hope they can slow the spread of it ASAP. However compared to the normal flu in the USA, this article shows the CDC says that 20K people in the USA have died from the Flu, so far this flu season, including 136 children, the regular flu should not be forgotten.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-flu-killed-20k-americans-children
DD is on Spring Break and participating in an activity about 3 or 4 hours (by bus) from the UNC campus and I am happy that she didn't fly somewhere.
The UNC web site has a list of places, including States and Cities in the USA that I will try to find. Recommendations for Discourage Travel, https://www.unc.edu/coronavirus/
They are discouraging travel to Austin and San Antonio but not Houston(?).
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1 hour ago, Ausmumof3 said:
Why self quarantine isn’t going to be an option soon
This woman attended a wa symphony orchestra concert with 1500 people after being tested for Covid19 and before receiving her results. She tested positive.
1 hour ago, StellaM said:And this, I have no sympathy for.
Missing out on your subscription concert is a shame, but not a reason to go mingle with the public.
That's selfish.
If authorities were given the power to override privacy regulations for anyone who does this sort of thing, potential Covid-19 patients might be more likely to stay home until they are certain of their status.
(Is that too mean? It probably is. I'm frustrated.)
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Just now, prairiewindmomma said:
I misread your tone. Suggesting that state guards are moving to the border is an idea also being promoted by some to keep those of us in certain western states in and protect others in a different state from us. (Sorry, trying to do a delicate avoiding political speech dance here.)
I just don’t expect Idaho to put up barricades to keep Washingtonians and Oregonians out.
And that is an idea being promoted in some circles. 🙄
Where have you seen that?
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3 hours ago, Katy said:
We can't really calculate the death rate until this is over (unless you believe China you can't remotely get close), but it has already killed more people.
You are correct. We can't calculate until the dust settles.
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21 minutes ago, Arcadia said:
People are estimating based on the SARS epidemic. That started in November 2002 and tapered off in July 2003. This is more “contagious” than SARS because of the asymptomatic cases being much higher. There is already more deaths too than SARS.
More people are infected with Covid-19. WHO has the death rate for SARS at 9.6 percent.
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1 hour ago, Spryte said:
I will let them know. I think I will tell the cleaners not to come, and I will pay her regardless this time. I know she depends on the income, and have no idea if she has health insurance.I’ll ask DH to get out the pulse ox. Good idea.
DH was just diagnosed with high BP last week. I don’t want him to catch this.
{{Hugs}} I'm sorry you have so much illness at your house, and I think you are wonderful to pay your cleaner whether she comes or not.
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Just now, DoraBora said:
In Texas?
Nvm
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7 minutes ago, Renai said:
I remember reading that those with high blood pressure have a higher risk of dying from this than a person with cancer. My next door neighbor died of cancer 2.5 months ago, the day before my birthday. With asthma and hbp, my risk of dying is actually higher. Kind of humbling.
No idea, but I just saw on the website that they ARE posting the number of tests. So far, they've done 10. All negative. 10. Yep. They are only testing high risk populations right now.
In Texas?
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1 hour ago, Renai said:
Yes, I'm in NM. I'm actually driving to TX come Sunday or Monday. I'm staying with my parents for a month, but am there for GHC and TTD conferences. I'm curious if the conferences will still go on. TTD is in April, so there's time to figure that out. But, GHC is next week... Either way, I'm still going to be with my parents (Central Texas).
(Sorry I misspelled your name! I need to start wearing my readers. 😀)
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4 minutes ago, Renai said:
Our state will only be posting number of cases. I just got the webpage today and bookmarked it.
@Renal I think you are in NM(?).
Texas is only posting number of cases as well.
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9 hours ago, Pen said:
@DoraBora - don’t watch the following video, it would probably just upset you.
Projections about world population likely to become infected with SARS-Cov2 (Covid-19)
Thank you, Pen. (I watched it anyway.)
It is upsetting, of course. I can face the truth about the danger, but I like to see dire projections balanced with the fact that we still don't know how bad it will get, as Dr. Lipsitch admits. There is always hope that something will alter to improve the situation.
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24 minutes ago, Pen said:
Correct. And that is even harder to predict because it depends hugely on human behavior.
If humans act more wisely than has been happening so far with this virus, if they don’t try to cover up, if they do testing, if they use excellent sanitation practices (thorough hand washing and the like), if they use social distancing, it could be less bad than predicted .
If people continue to congregate closely, to travel widely etc , it could be much worse.
And If the virus mutates several times, who knows what will happen.
I remain hopeful. Thank you, Pen. 😊
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10 minutes ago, Pen said:
It is basically impossible to know mortality rate for certain during an ongoing epidemic. They make mathematical models. (Often we don’t really know the mortality even after an epidemic ends. 1918 flu is often described as having killed between 50 and 100 Million people.)
If you go to the Dr John Campbell videos on this and start watching from the start of his coverage of Covid-19 or at least a good ways back, you will catch on, I think, as he is very good in clearly explaining things. Sometimes he mixes up words, or says something that he then corrects in a later video as he learns more, but basically imo he is doing very well.
Worldometer.info also has a section about how mortality rates are determined—but not in simple to understand small words.
Thank you. So, I guess the estimates about the total number of people who are likely to get this thing are also tentative...
8 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:We don’t know really. There’s the simple calculation of number of deaths over number of cases but then all kinds of adjustments based on how the cases are counted how thorough the testing is etc. using the raw data at this point it seems less contagious but more deadly than flu.
Thank you. At least the "less contagious" part is encouraging. To me. If it's true. 😊
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Stupid questions: How do we know what the mortality rate is? If some people recover, then relapse, if new cases are added each day and many are still sick, how can we know that this is twice or ten times as deadly as most flu viruses?
Someone posted on another thread, or maybe it was this one(!), that 30% of the population will get this virus, and that the 30% figure is probably a low projection. I don't understand how anyone could estimate that with any real accuracy.
Can anyone explain it to me? Please use small words. 😊
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2 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:
3 new cases in Santa Clara County (total 14?)
1 presumed in Fort Worth Texas
5 in Westchester County New York
1 new in Chile, 3 new in Ecuador, 10 new in Iceland, Ireland 4, Algeria 9, Sweden 17,
apologies if these have already been listed it’s hard to keep up now.
only 5 of the Chinese cases were outside Hubei.
US total is at 158 according to BNO
I think the presumptive Texas case is in Fort Bend County, near Houston. I don't see anything in FW.
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From an NPR article:
Why hasn't broader testing been available until now?
The first test kits sent by the CDC to state and local labs didn't work as planned. It was a three-step process, and the third step was causing problems. The FDA subsequently authorized the use of just the first and second steps to provide a definitive diagnostic. That set the U.S. back several weeks, and public health officials lost a crucial window to contain the virus and prevent it from getting a foothold in the U.S. Secondly, the CDC was using very strict criteria to determine who could be tested. That's what happened with the "community spread" case last month at UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento, Calif. The CDC has now revised the criteria for testing to include people who are so sick that they need to be hospitalized but don't know how they might have been exposed. -
9 minutes ago, popmom said:
WOW. I can't believe that. With the current opioid crisis. Man, I wish that were true for my state. It really is getting harder and harder to find doctors willing to prescribe it. You really have to have a good relationship with your doctor in my experience. I've got some hydrocodone right now, and it's like GOLD to me lol
So true! Nothing works for me (or my kids) as well as the old-fashioned prescription codeine cough medicine. I only need a day or two of doses to get a break from hacking. Good sleep takes care of the rest.
We always seem to get these coughs on holidays and weekends, so we head to the urgent care place. They don't like to write that script.
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On 3/2/2020 at 11:24 AM, Sneezyone said:
Bahrain---Arkansas---roughly the same only there's less government control over the populace in the US. I had better, cheaper dental care in Bahrain. I had better, quicker surgery in the U.S. The idea that the US is so superior that the rules of viral transmission and epidemiology don't apply is just...well...OK. Bahrain is not the third world.
FWIW, I'm not so silly to believe that the US is above the rules of viral transmission, or that we are somehow superior.
What I meant was that, though Bahrain has enough wealth to have a perfectly good medical system, I don't know how well prepared, or unprepared, they were for this epidemic.
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1 hour ago, Sneezyone said:
What are you defining the tropics? Literally, most of the late summer in the southern US is hot and humid. If you're looking for a silver lining, that's not it. It mirrors conditions in a Bahraini spring.
I have lived in the southern US (TX and GA) my entire life, so I know hot and humid. I don't know Bahrain's level of preparedness, so I can't know how the spread has going for them or whether it will continue.
And now, I need to go to the food pantry for my Monday shift, so I can't continue to try to point out that past performance doesn't guarantee future results, as the financial products folks say.
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17 minutes ago, gardenmom5 said:
we might not be as densely packed, but we're still in cities with higher numbers. in my areas, it's spreading. it's not just the totem lake area of Kirkland (where the hospital with the deaths is. and the nursing home is. - and there were nursing students there, so their school has now been shut down.), - it's 30 minutes south of there with patients hospitalized and schools closed for disinfecting.
I live in a city of a little over 1 million people, but I don't live in a high-rise. Most citizens in my city live a little further apart. Yes, I know it's spreading, but I am hopeful that the differences between our large cities and a place like Wuhan will mean the transmission is slower. It's also possible that warmer weather (not the warm weather of the tropics) might improve our outcomes.
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27 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:
There is no evidence to suggest that a novel virus like this will stop spreading in warmer weather. It is currently spreading in southern China, Hong Kong, Singapore, South America and Africa where temps are already warmer. It is true that we can more easily maintain social distance in rural areas. I can confine my children at home and be far enough away from others to prevent spread. Most people, however, do live in more densely packed areas just not as packed as China or Korea or Japan.
Is it spreading as quickly in these warmer regions as it has in Wuhan?
I'm not advocating putting one's head in the sand. I'm really agreeing that we just don't know what will happen (and trying to take a slightly more hopeful stance).
couple guys bougth sanitizer - can't sell it.
in The Chat Board
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I think he will soon be sorry he was willing to be interviewed.