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I've just searched the Sonlight forums for old threads on the Light and the Glory book and after reading what John said about why the book was pulled in the first place, I am simply gobsmacked that they put this book back in.
I looked at the Core D sample and The Light and the Glory is only scheduled day 5 of week 1 and week 2, but I don't see it in week 3. Books scheduled on day 5 are totally optional. The website says the day 5 books can be added or subtracted because they stand alone. Supposedly they just add a little "depth" or a different view point. It really doesn't look like Light and the Glory is any more than an option. I could be wrong ....
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Well, I may be in the minority but, I plan on ordering the Core D IG on April 2. I can't wait! It looks great to me. :hurray:
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Sonlight has videos on their website explaining the changes. They will add a video about the IG on March 14th, LA on March 21 and Bible on March 28. You won't be able to know the price until April 2 when it becomes available for purchase.
I would buy it as a package. Trying to piece together that many books is not fun. They have an interest free payment plan, too.
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Why not stick with SL and just add Home School in the Woods' Time Traveler Cds? They are very well done and WP uses them for one of their American history courses. They won't line up perfectly, but just pick and choose activities that are close in time period. Or add in History Pockets.
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My ds used G, I got "the grass is greener" syndrome and hopped over to HOD and then MFW, neither of which was a good fit. I'm going to use Core F with him as soon as SL releases their newest version next month.
I'd love to to Core H with him, but since I've curriculum hopped I need to devote his high school years to one more run through US and world history. My plan is to do Core F in 8th, Core 100 in 9th and so on.
I have older children in college and I used SL with them and they still remember many of the books fondly. Of everything I've used, the things they've learned with SL seems to really stick. Even the books they said were boring or they didn't like, they still remember. There have been plenty of times my dc have whined about not liking a book and my response is usually "I don't like it either, but read it anyways because you might learn something". Rarely have I felt a SL book was a waste of time.
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Great! I'm stuck with $400 worth of French that my ds hates. I should have gotten Japanese like he wanted. Maybe I can swap with someone. :sad:
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for sale? Are you not allowed to resell it?
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Get yourself right over to Harmony Art Mom's blog -- Handbook of Nature Study. Free and absolutely PACKED with helpful tips about using this book.
WOW!!! I love it! Thank you!:thumbup:
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Is there a resource out there that helps implement The Handbook of Nature Study? I'm looking at SCM's "Hours in the Out-Of Doors", but are there others?
I've owned this wonderful book for 2 years but have never really implemented it. I need help scheduling and using it and need handholding.
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The commentary in the older guides is more age specific, but the book list includes all levels. We are using AOR 1 right now. I have my 5th and 7th read the commentary and discuss some parts of it with them. There are generally plenty of elementary level books that I can choose from for my 2nd grader as well.
The truthquest booklist for each topic lists general books first, then topic specific books, and then historical fiction. Not all topics have books in all three groups.
TruthQuest would definitely be more flexible. BP is probably more open and go. As far as scheduling, if you want to move quickly through TruthQuest then you'll want to choose a spine book or two. Let the spine be your primary reading and just check out additional library books for a book basket. We tend to cover 2-4 topics or subtopics a week. The girls outline topics that have 1 chapter in our spine and summarize topics that have more than one chapter or are covered by a separate library books like Haydn and Mozart last week. We started AOR 1 at the beginning of the year and are currently on topic 66, so we will not only finish AOR 1 but also part of AOR 2 this year. HTH
Have you used any of the A Journey Through Learning items with TQ? I'm wondering if the Binder-Builder or Notebook would be useful. I think the MFW notebook pages are a little lacking.
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BP does schedule the literature. I agree with Narrow Gate, I think BP would be considered more open and go, but TQ is more flexible. There have been a few people on the board who use TQ and BP together, much the same way the other poster uses MFW CTG and TQ. They let BP drive the schedule and add the TQ commentary to the schedule and add any books they like, just a thought.
Do you think using TQ Ancient Rome with MFW RtR would be a viable option?
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The only major issue I've come across with TruthQuest is that there are far more lessons than time to cover them. And lessons will have sub-categories. For example, there may be 74 lessons in the book but one lesson might be "King Henry VIII" and under that it will list every single one of his wives and all the books you can use, the major players surrounding Henry including religious and historical figures, and Henry himself. You could spend weeks just on that one lesson.
Pacing was our biggest struggle. So much information and so little time. We spent a year covering the Middle Ages and another year on the Renaissance/Reformation. I bought TruthQuest Age of America I and realized almost immediately that there is no way we could get through that book in a year. Unfortunately, I need to get through that time period in a year so we've decided to use something else.
That's probably a bad thing for me. Too many choices and rabbit trails are not good for an ADD mom like me :tongue_smilie:
Thank you for letting me know!
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As much as I like TQ, I am not good with making my own schedule and staying on track. I don't know what I'm going to use next year. I am considering SL and Biblioplan though.
I think BP would be much easier to implement than TQ, since most of it is scheduled for you. I have read past reviews that it uses many of the books that SL uses. I believe it's scheduled for 3 days a week, so you may or may not like that. I like to do history 5 days a week.
That is REALLY good to know! I'm the same way and do NOT like making my own schedule and keeping myself on track. I need it in print in front of me. I little wiggle room is good :)
Do you think you could use BP with MFW? We are using MFW RtR, but I really don't like the book basket. I need books listed and assigned so that they will be read. My library doesn't carry enough of the books either so I'd rather buy them.
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Biblioplan seems like it would be easier to combine a 4th and 8th grader and I like the layout. I like the Cool Histories but I don't like the timeline figures or the maps.
Truthquest seems to be more age specific and I would probably cater to my older child and let my younger one tag along. BUT, I like the looks of the timeline figures, maps and notebooking add ons.
Does one have more of a Sonlight feel, i.e. a lot of historical fiction? I love Sonlight, but I want more notebooking and and a little smaller of a guide.
Is one more flexible than the other? Is one more open and go? Anything I need to be aware of with either curriculum? Any good TWTM threads I've missed on the two guides?
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What are you looking for?
Technically you can find any outline map without copyright and take it in to your local office store and have it blown up. (I've done this many times.)
Or you could go here: http://www.yourchildlearns.com/megamaps.htm and print off your own to assemble.
HTH
Great! That should be perfect. I just need pretty basic outline maps and that fits the bill. I'm going to print the 3x3 maps. Thanks!
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to find wall sized outline maps? I looked at Rainbow Resource and couldn't find anything. Beautiful Feet recommends kids use a 2'X3' outline map but I can't find anything but the markable maps at SL.
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familiar with this book by Barbara Hanawalt? It's used in Beautiful Feet's Medieval Guide and is $36 so I want to make sure it's worth it.
Hoping someone can tell me a little about it :001_smile:
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I bought and have in my hands the new medieval guide for advanced intermediate and junior high levels. I love that it has colored pictures throughout the guide. It just looks a little more "beautiful" in its appearance. There are suggested activities, books, websites, etc. There are mapping activities throughout the guide. Besides the literature that is read (there are several, Adam of the Road, One Thousand and one Arabian Nights, Adventures of Robin Hood, and many more) and the discussion questions, there is also a main spine that is used called The European World (Barbara Hanawalt). Previous to picking up this BF guide, I tried to use History Odyssey and found it to be very dry. I also did not like that History Odyssey did not specify what chapters to read when. My dd needs more direction than that. BF guides are broken down into weeks and then there is a list of items to be completed for the week (the medieval guide is 35 weeks).
Here is an example of week 1:
-Read European World - intro and ch 1
-the guide gives a long list of countries, rivers, and locations to mark on a map and gives suggestions for making the map
-the guide gives background info on Charlemagne, do report on Charlemagne and put in portfolio (gives helpful websites)
-intro to Beowulf and define words from Beowulf
-read pages 1-40 of Beowulf and then lists questions to answer related to the reading
-lists a website with hands on activities related to Beowulf
week 2 then continues with further activities, questions, and readings from Beowulf and European World
There are also some historical notes throughout the book that give further information for the time period being studied. There are answers to the discussion questions in the back of the book and vocabulary definitions can be found in the back of the book.
My only complaints:
-there is not an adequate table of contents in the front of the book that shows how much time is spent on each topic
-I wish there were more writing assignments
Also, here are examples of a few of the projects:
-build a model castle out of sugar cubes
-make your own Chinese kite
-write your own Canterbury Tale
-draw three common ship types
Thanks for the detailed review! Judging by what you've seen, can you give a ballpark estimate of how many hours per week you think it would take? Did you buy the literature pack? I was thinking about maybe getting the enough books for about the first 6 weeks.
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I'm considering the Medieval Guide! I like that they've added projects, websites and writing/research helps.
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Beautiful Feet Guides? They look pretty good! They've redone the Geography, Medieval History, Early American K-3 and the Horse guides.
http://bfbooks.com/Medieval-Intermediate-Guide-Download-Version?sc=21&category=-121
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I know has been an overload of HOD threads lately, but for anyone who wants to answer, who has finally taken the plunge & been happy with it?
I figure I have to try it either way, and I will either love it, or finally get it out of my system, so that I can move on.:001_smile:
I can relate. I'm a hopper too. I drooled over HOD, bought it - tried it - sold it two times. THAT was what I needed to finally know that HOD is wonderful but will never be right for us and I've been able to move on. It's got great resale value so try it for a few weeks and if you like it keep it, if not, sell it.
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is it better to order the entire thing from Rainbow? I just don't want to shell out nearly $300 right now. I have some misc science supplies but I'm not sure what all is needed for the the kits. I couldn't find an exact list on their website.
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He's already been through 3 pre-Algebra programs. I thought maybe AoPS would at least stretch him a bit. TT will offer a lot of review, I'm certain. I have to buy both for my dd, eventually. He has not been a math slouch...so I'm in completely new territory. I am now dreading end of year testing, and getting ready to pull out LoF decimals/percents and fractions and making him work through those (again) while we wait on whatever else I buy.
When we hit a snag on a particular math concept I have my ds use the "Key To" series for that concept so he can get a firm grasp on it before he moves on in his regular math text. He still hates math, but it works.
Btw, your ds sounds EXACTLY like mine. If I lived closer I would definitely crack open the vodka and chocolate with you! :D
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And I don't know, maybe some moms just like having Carrie "script out" what to say about the Bible, including what the child is supposed to pray. Maybe that's easier to do each day? "Read the box and do this...." Whereas some MFW moms like having Marie leave specific interpretation and explanation left up to the parents. It's probably a preference thing, I don't know. Every family is different in how they do Bible. :)
I have to admit, my 12 yo ds refused to do the "Bible Quiet Time" box in HOD. He said he'd read the bible verses but he had a problem with being told what to say to the Lord.
"Prayer Focus: Pray a prayer of thanksgiving to express gratitude for God’s divine goodness. Begin by reading the highlighted verse out loud as a prayer. End by praying, Thank you Lord for saving Noah and his family so that I can be here today. I am grateful for your word, for Noah’s example of living a life in obedience to you, and for..."
From HOD's CTC
"Memory Verse—1 Corinthians 13
For the next few weeks, memorize 1 Corinthians 13:4-8a. Add these verses to your 1 Corinthians wall chart. This week, discuss the meaning of verse 4. Remember to watch for ways to apply these truths in your lives."
from MFW's RTR.
Based on the above, HOD's bible is more scripted. But neither one is better than the other. It just depends on individual preferences and family needs.
Sonlight has the newest video up....
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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Okay, I just read the SL threads on "The Light and the Glory" and I, too, am really surprised that they've brought it back! I've posted over there to see what's up. Is there a revised edition or something?