Glad it worked out for your son. I was just going to say, that getting adult teeth pulled is very different than children's teeth, but I'm happy there was no need for any pulling at all.

I'd really like to do both. Has anybody else? Do you know if it would be easy to line up the concepts, or would I need to jump around? Or should I just do them as two seperate programs, and not worry about if the concepts line up at the same time? Thanks for any info.

I agree, there is a lot of extra time scheduled into LL, so I don't think you'll have time getting through the book before summer, even only doing a 4 day week. She really spreads out some of the reading time, that you could possibly condense and you may not end up doing everything. We certainly only did some of the workbook pages. It is a fun book to read.

Thanks. Do you mind if I ask, what you are having her do with the text? Are there questions in she is answering, or is she just outlining? Will you have tests or do you feel discussion is enough? I just ordered the DVD so haven't received it yet. Are there notes/questions etc. that come with it? Thanks again!

Has anybody found a specific history curriculum that lines up well with it?

Have you looked at IEW's Linguistic Development through poetry memorization program.

that offer literary discussion/analysis, of some classical or popular books, with or without assignments.

has anybody heard, read, experienced that one is thought of as better by colleges?

Thank you all, I just received the book today and am now off to join the yahoo group:-)

Does anybody have a line-up of any sorts, of books to read with it?

schedules, comprehension questions etc.? I see the book does have some projects for each chapter, but was just wondering if anybody had anything additional to add to it. TIA

I agree with this also. We have been using it for 2 years now, and it is definitely thorough in grammar. It actually can take a fair bit of time to complete a lesson if you have your children do all the written exercises. We do 4 lessons a week of but did add in a seperate writing program that we work on, on the the 5th day.

Was it Home Economics? That's what we called it when we took it in school a long long long time ago.:-) quote=Hazelt"nut";452493]Someone or many someones talked many months ago about including sewing, needlepointe, etc . in their homeschool. Ya'll gave it a name...but I can't remember what you called it so I can google up some info. It wasn't crafts..maybe something about handmade..anybody remember? Sheryl

For a group, "Secular" means not requiring a statement of faith and usually open to anyone of any faith or lack of faith..lol. In curriculum it means it would teach from a non-religious viewpoint. You would have to add your own beliefs in if you so choose.

Honestly I'd perhaps speak to some students that have gone to the university your son is interested in. My oldest who went through public school and was not particularly strong in grammar or English has managed to achieve A's in all of the first two year's English classes in his Computer Science discipline at a high ranked state university. I'm using Rod and Staff 7 this year with my 9th grade dd and I know that it is going much deeper than anything my ds learned in public highschool. If you are both struggling I would definitely take a break and then maybe talk to a few who know what's required in your area. My dh is an engineer and couldn't diagram a sentence to save his life....lol

that is not so dependent on parental involvement? Isn't that a terrible question? But honestly I am homeschooling a large family of various ages and while I know there are ways to tie it all together that's just not going to happen this year. I love Sonlight(we have used it previously), but I just know that this year there will not be enough time for all the discussions required for my ds if he does Core 7. I'd just love for him to be able to read the books, have questions to answer and then writing assignments to complete and maybe even a test or two, to be sure he's comprehending and learning the history parts. In a perfect world this wouldn't be necessary, but right now I think it is and I just hate to have go the totally dry text book path. Any thoughts?

That's sort of what I was thinking. That doing copywork when you can't really read what you are writing isn't really helpful. I may have her just do a little copywork from the readers she can read, as she loves to print and save FLL and WWE until mid year. Thanks.

DD is 5, will be 6 fairly soon and I can't remember with my older kids whether I waited until they were reading before starting copywork. She knows her letters and most of her sounds, but is a beginning reader at this point. I have both FLL and WWE and am wondering whether to start them when we start back to school at the end of the month, or wait until mid year when she is reading better. What have you all done?

Writing Strands (twice), Abeka, Rod and Staff(I love the Grammar, but there's just not enough writing in it) Put that in Writing, Lightning Literature, (again I like the literature part but there wasn't enough to teach or improve their writing) This summer I ordered "The Complete Writing Program" It's written for use by a classroom teacher or homeschool parent. I read it through, as well as his "Writing the Five Paragraph Essay" report. It not only taught me how to teach them basically step by step, but it taught me how to assess their writing and gave me examples to compare to. We don't do daily lessons in the summer, but I have started doing this with my 13,11,9 year old the last two weeks every morning and I feel like we are really really getting somewhere with writing. I'm excited!!!! I discovered that handing my kids a program like "Writing Strands" and having them read it and do the work just wasn't going to work well. I haven't felt this confident about my kids becoming successful writers since those early days of homeschooling. It's probably not for everybody, but it's working for us. I did just order WWE for my almost 6 year old to work through this fall and am hoping it will lay a good foundation for her.

Thankyou everyone. I appreciate it:-)

Thanks so much for all your effort. It's appreciated:-) K~

If you've used this in the elementary years before Omnibus, would you mind explaining to me how it works? I understand there are cards with facts. Is there more to the program then that, or is it basically just reviewing the cards? Also If you used Omnibus, can you tell me if the Primary Reading is difficult for a student that is just an average reader at this point. My ds is making progress, but he is definitely a more math oriented student and reading isn't something he loves. I appreciate all the help? K~

Oh thank you all so much. I'm thrilled to see so many positive reviews of it.

Pros, Cons. I know there are a lot of questions for each lesson, but figured we could just do odds or something. TIA

Thank you for the suggestions. I'll be checking them all out:-)