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  1. 4 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:


    This makes me so sad. My most vulnerable family members are in elder care facilities in Pierce County.

    😥 I'm sorry. Dr. Chen made the point that being a bit behind King County meant that they could see what they did right and wrong and hopefully not make the same mistakes. I'm sure that any respiratory illnesses in nursing facilities are going to be scrutinized from here on out.

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  2. 55 minutes ago, maize said:

    Standardized test scores I have seen for home educated children generally follow a trend of above average in language arts and below average in math. 

    I think even historically those that showed above average scores overall were based on a very self-selected sample.

    I agree with your second point. Anecdotally, a family friend who is a math teacher had the opposite experience with previously homeschooled students doing fine with math, but having trouble with the required writing. This was several years ago. With all of the posts on our state fb page proclaiming that homeschool math programs are "a year or two ahead" I suspect that previously homeschooled kids who enroll in school will be surprised at what they haven't covered. A deep understanding of topics covered in 3rd grade is great, but if 4th grade topics aren't covered, a kid will not be ready for 5th grade topics. 

  3. 3 minutes ago, Plum said:


    A quick read shows that this is a 14 month long safety trial, after which efficacy trials would be done. I wonder if the timeline would be sped up if there are no red flags early in the safety trial. If this virus shows a seasonal pattern, ebbing in the summer and circulating again in the fall and winter, it could be causing disruption for a long time.

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  4. 25 minutes ago, Arcadia said:



    “The University of Washington's flagship Seattle campus announced that it would cancel all in-person classes and move them online for at least the next few weeks. The university is the first major U.S. campus to take such drastic action amid rapidly growing fears of the novel coronavirus and the disease it causes, Covid-19.”


    “Update – 03/06/2020: As a way to increase precautionary health measures, such as social distancing, and ensure the successful conclusion of the quarter for UW students on all of our campuses, as of March 9, 2020, classes and finals will not be held in personfor the remainder of winter quarter, which ends March 20. Our campuses will remain open to serve all those who rely on our services, including hospitals and clinics, dining services, residence halls, and recreation and athletics facilities. Husky athletics events will proceed as scheduled. We plan to resume normal class operations when spring quarter begins March 30, pending public health guidance.”

    That's a big step. Will the other colleges and universities in the area will follow suit? I'm watching the public schools too. Young adults staying home is one thing, but kids being home would be a huge disruption. I'm glad I don't have to do the cost-benefit analysis on that one.

  5. At what point will all healthcare workers and first responders be using the proper exposure protocols with all incoming patients? When I see numbers like this—30 people quarantined here, 2 dozen there—I wonder who will be left to run the hospitals. Staffing margins aren’t great to begin with. 

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  6. 9 minutes ago, 8FillTheHeart said:

    I am going to bail on engaging in this conversation bc in no way do I agree even though I am an advocate of unit studies and non-textbook education. 

    Conversations in which everyone agrees are not very interesting. 🙂  But yeah, my five minutes of daiquiri-inspired brainstorming isn’t really the basis for a high school curriculum. It seemed like a good idea at the time. 😄

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  7. 2 hours ago, 8FillTheHeart said:

    Thanks for sharing.  Your post clarifies the appeal.  

    I personally cannot fathom using any science or history units at the high school level put together by just anyone without a background in the field.  I can't imagine approaching high school science in random units b/c I cannot fathom mastering chemistry or physics without logically designed sequencing.  Ecology, yes, I can see units working for ecology.  But, no, not biology as taught today focused on cellular biology and biochem.

    I hope parents who have kids who think they want to pursue a STEM field or a 4 yr U recognize the weaknesses.


    Looking at the curric in question, it's obviously not for stem-y high school kids. But I think that a series of unit studies for high school could work. There would have to be a flowchart to show which classes were absolute prerequisites for others, but there would be some choice. History units would go along with the science units, and would be non-chronological. For example, one unit might be classical mechanics, Newton, the English Civil Wars, Pope, Dryden, and Pilgrim's Progress. Another might be atoms, elements, the periodic table, Mendeleev, 19th century Russian history, and selections from the golden age of Russian literature--Gogol, Chekhov, Pushkin, Tolstoy. The elements unit would have to precede stoichiometry, Jeremias Benjamin Richter, Holy Roman Empire/Prussia, and The Sorrows of Young Werther. Astronomy/Mayan history/Popol Vuh. Botany/the role of plants in Ancient literature--Gilgamesh, the Bible, Greek Myths. Microbiology--story of Cholera in Victorian England, class system, workhouses, Dickens. Just spitballing. lol.

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  8. 3 hours ago, 8FillTheHeart said:

    Which comes back to the point of who decided the scope and sequence? The content? Has anyone successfully used the same approach long-term? Is there any evidence supporting it is a sound academic program? What is her academic background? How old is her oldest?  Other than marketing and artwork, what are her qualifications for people trusting her materials?


    Usually I'd breeze over these types of questions, trusting that a homeschooling parent would be willing and able to determine what materials fit into the scope and sequence of their homeschool, but I am coming to realize that the proportion of the homeschool community with which I am familiar is rather small, and perhaps not representative of the community as a whole. With self-publishing easier than ever, and so many people deciding that expertise is bunk, I can only see this problem growing in the future, and not just for homeschoolers. Wasn't there a recent thread about how many public school teachers cobble together lesson plans from questionable materials on Teachers Pay Teachers? 




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  9. 2 hours ago, OKBud said:

    I think that this Spooner woman appeals more to the group insisting that one does not need to read any books to prepare themselves for homeschooling their children [I come across so many of these and it makes me unendingly furious!] than the religiously-motivated homeschoolers.  


    Is this a common view? I have come across lots of people (online, anyway) who want a 100% online curriculum because they don't have time to teach or don't want to teach, but I've never encountered someone who bragged about teaching from ignorance. That's just bizarre. 

    Edited to add: I called over my 12 y/o to ask him about the Viet Cong error. His eyes got wide and he was speechless for a moment. And it takes a lot to get this kid to be quiet. 😛


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  10. This morning I read a post on one of the local facebook homeschool pages about how wonderful it was that students in China, Japan, and other quarantined areas were getting to experience homeschooling. The first few responses weren't "what the hell is wrong with you" but comparing the online classes being used in quarantine areas to the parent partnerships in our state, and thus not "real homeschooling." Sometimes you just gotta scroll on by.

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  11. Gross. 

    But I did this accidentally once. In a postpartum fog, with a baby who was having trouble nursing, I heard a knock at the door. I unlatched the baby and *thought* I had sorted everything out. But it was one of those special nursing shirts with secret openings in strategic places and somehow I didn't notice that I still had a deflated breast peeking out. Oops. I hope that the UPS guy's reaction wasn't trauma, but a funny story about the least sexy flashing he'd ever received. 

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