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Has anyone done Sonlight Core for 8th grade without using Hakim's History of the US? If so, what did you use and how did you coordinate with the IG? Or did anyone use History of the US and not struggle with the world view aspect?
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I am in this boat too. My dd is a junior next year and has a heavy load already scheduled with online classes. I was excited to find out that one semester at college (cc is fine:) ) is equivalent to one year high school, so they could do a foreign lanquage both semesters of senoir year and that would be totally acceptable. You may still be able to find a local summer class that has not started yet?
I think we are going to do 2nd semseter junior year and first semester senior year of Spanish, otherwise we will have to do both senior year as well. She has done some Latin and Hebrew, but not enough to count for two years of high school
HTH,
Kathy
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I understand what you are saying and you are doing a wonderful job researching so you will no doubt be off to a good start, even if it may not feel that way. :)
When I was first researching high school I did not know what an SAT II subject test was, had never heard of it. Someone reccomended going on the college boards and we learned a lot. It turned out that the colleges my dd was most interested in (including a state university) required 2 SAT II subject tests.
I was shocked and as time went on and we did some college prep night classes (for parents) and talked with others and realized this needed to be done by end of junior year to matter, so I think it may be something you want to consider if your dc is college bound, you may want to go to the boards and do some research as it may influence your course schedule.
HTH,
Kathy
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I think you will see your child develop and may have a liking in one area.....you can have your texts pre-chosen and the years you think you should do them, but be ready to adapt.
My children do not like physics....it can be harder to understand though I know many who do it early, we are saving this until 12th. She unexpectedly loved Biology in 9th and that set the course for us. She did it online and wanted Anatomy and Physiology after Biology, however they would not let her do A & P without Chemistry.
So the course became set mid-way through freshman year.
Biology and Algebra I
Chemistry and Geometry
A & P and Algebra II
Physics and ....not sure more Adv math or perhaps Consumer math.
Also to keep in mind as you head through is SAT II tests. These really need to be done after junior year at the latest. She will do the SAT II Biology after junior year so you might find doing the advanced science best that year, doing an SAT II after senior year is to late for college applications. :tongue_smilie:
Kathy
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I have to say that even though physical science is acceptable for high school, I do think it is not the greatest course. We have done general (7th), physical (8th), biology(9th) and chemistry(10th). Dd will do Adv Biology next year for 11th and then Physics for 12th. My kids favorites have been general and biology.
Chemistry this past year has been my dd least favorite, she did the honors online course and ended up asking a public school friend for help, he was in an AP Chem course and they were doing things very similar, he was impressed with the book after looking over the book a few times in tutoring her. He seemed surprised at how close it was to what he was learning in his AP course.
I must say that general and bio get into the "hot topics" more than say chemistry. Some things are what they are no matter what you beleive...a proton is still a proton etc., but I can respect people getting nauseated if you have a very different viewpoint. I realte it to how we do not attend a "church" and sadly generally find christians to be offensive, even though we believe very similar, if not the same things on many points.
If you have issues (negative) with the idea of creation being taught/talked about then please realize- that feeling will rub off on your child. How about presenting them and talking about the flaws you see and teach them HOW to think for themselves. I think we all want that anyway, what better way for them to actually see how that looks in action.
Like it or not, there are "mainstream" christian views as well as regular mainstream people views. Teaching your kids to see/think for themselves and if you are a believer -to pray and seek God's leading on the subject is best. the whole debate in heaven will likely seem trivial :001_smile:.
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I think the interaction at TPS is a little better, not sure if they have changed at Veritas but I know some of the classes were typed text, no audio, for certain kids learning style, that is just too much to bear.
We find most of the teachers to be very helpful.
K
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I was considering putting down piano for one of her years only, even though she will likely take lessons all four years. I was going to give her one full credit though as an elective. I do think that cummmualtively with music theory and study of some music history that it should be fine, after all they can see you are a hs, so classes are not going to be the same as group classes are.
Maybe 3 years listing might be much, has anyone done this? Then again, maybe for me it would better to do 1/4 credit for four years....Hmmmm
Kathy
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The reviews I read on the site are amazing. Anyone here used the course or done the online version?
Mr Farris only does a live chat every other week and on the off week you listen to a pretaped one and of course there are weekly quizzes and such.
It is not a full year and a governement course is reccommended right before or after- I am curious if anyone has a good recc. for that to go with this?
The course is sort of thru HSLDA
Thanks for your help,
Kathy
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fall into a love it or hate it - and feel strongly. I think it is fine, everyone is different. My dd really LOVED her live Biology class... last year. I personally think Mr R is an excellent lecturer because he is so enthusiastic about the subject. The notes are really good and I was happy with the tests as well.
I did though, come across some who strongly did not like Mr R...strictness (he is very), voice etc, so I thought I would have dd try a different teacher this year for Chemistry, thought it would be good for her. She is very unhappy, even though you have all kinds of teachers in life, so I stand by that it is good for her. A nice teacher, but chit chatty nice and she was use to intense lectures (she learns better with that).
Needless to say, we have already signed up for A & P with Mr R for next year. As hs we do have a choice, in college she may not.
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The Grapes of Wrath
Corrie Ten Boom
Shakeltons Endurance
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story to yours, going from MUS to Key To to blah blah....all to no avail. tears etc.
We have had a good experience, but when we get stuck we do call/use the helpline. We bought the Algebra used, but Tom will let you pay $100 to use the call line. This one time fee is good for all children 4ever.
DD would call and they would spend as long as they needed to with her, one time it was well over a half an hour. The man isolated the concept she was stuck on, told her what lesson to go back to, rework it and go forward from there. That was out first big hurdle. Dd went thru modules A-D last year.
This year she is going through VT Geometry, while she does not love it of course, she does fine and so far only used the helpline once. Tom himself called back and she thought that was special. She will work through modules A-D this year and then next year we will go thru both E and F of Algebra and Geo. I am comfortable with that as you can count it for three years as Alg 1, Alg 2 and Geo.
HTH,
Kathy
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The Potter School has second semester classes starting January 24, too numerous to list, here is the link:
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Thanks for this information. I just checked out the site, the class looks great, they just started the spring course last week, but I will look at for the fall.
Kathy
http://conlaw.hslda.org/cms/Home/Testimonies/tabid/54/Default.aspx
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I am trying to make a decision what to do. The school approved that I may put son in ninth mid-year so no problems there. However I guess he would always change years mid-year, so he would be in ninth until next January and then start 10th, etc. The arguments I have so far for moving to ninth after Christmas break are:
He is finishing module 16 of Physical Science, can start Biology- generally ninth.
He is in Module C of Videotext Algebra, and doing alright with it.
He is doing American Histroy along side 10th grade DD.
He is doing same English online program that dd did last year in ninth.
Okay, so those are some reasons, academically why he could certainly move ahead. He wants to as well, but maybe to just say he did or because some friends did.
So what is holding me back? I am not sure, but here are a couple of ideas. He does have trouble with memorizing and I fear he will not enjoy Biology becasue of it and this will be hard for him because sister wasa a whiz at it, although she hates Chemistry this year.
I fear getting to 12th too quickly and that he will not be ready.
I just need feedback as I am sure I am overlooking other pros/cons.
Please help,
Kathy
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The first half of Physical is quite easy, the second half difficult. I have heard this from others and know of several who dropped it after module 9/10 or so.
We did general and both kids LOVED it and me too. My dd did Biology and LOVED it. The physical is another story for some reason. The later modules are more physics than anything. I think some kids minds are ready for that and others are not.
We stoped last year and are now on module 12. I am hoping to finish by thanksgiving but not sure if we will. My dd skipped physical entirely. Most things in the second half are covered in physics later.
K
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Apologia academy has online classes as well.
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Here is a sample report:
Formal Lab Report
A. Purpose:
The purpose of this experiment is to visit a pond and observe the life around it. Also, specimens will be collected for the purpose of further experimentations. However, mostly the macroscopic organsims living in pond ecosystems will be studied in this experiment. By understanding this experiment, the life in and around a pond will be comprehended.
Many organisms from all Kingdoms live in a pond ecosystem. Everything from the tiny algae producers to the larger consumers such as frogs and turtles are important to the pond. The ecosystem in and near the pond is a delicate, well-balanced system. All the organisms are very important, and each one must do its job.
This experiment hopes to show some of the observations made when looking at a pond ecosystem. It hopes to show the intricate system God has created, and how the creatures work together for the good. Also, this experiment is very important for the sake of collecting specimens for future study. These will also be observed and evidence will be found for the Creator.
This topic is of interest to others because it will show evidence for the Creator. It will be of interest to many who seek the Father. Those who seek evidence against evolution and for creation will be fascinated with the suprisingly logical evidence for the Creator, and His creation. Maybe this topic will even be of interest to evolutionists who like to believe that their theory holds true, and need to be convinced otherwise.
Hypothesis: Observations will be made when the pond is looked at, and more will be known about ecosystems when specimens are collected, they will be saved for further study, and the microscopic world will be better understood.
B. Equipment:
1. Four dark jars with lids
2. 1 tablespoon of chopped hay or dried grass.
3. 1 teaspoon of uncooked white rice
4. 1/4 teaspoon of cooked egg yolk
5. 2 teaspoons of soil
6. A long-handled ladle
7. A pond or small body of water
8. Something to rest a lab notebook on while it is being drawn in
9. Colored pencils
C. Procedures:
1. Locate a pond or proper body of water.
2. Before leaving, prepare your four jars as follows:
a. Label one jar "hay" and place a tablespoon of hay in it.
b. Label one jar "rice" and place a teaspooon of rice in it.
c. Label the third jar "egg yolk" and place 1/4 teaspoon of egg yolk in it.
d. Label the last jar "soil" and place 2 teaspoons of soil in it.
3. At the pond, use the ladle to collect pond water. Take samples near the bottom of the pond. Fill each of the four jars half full of the water. Put the lids back on the jars.
4. Set the jars aside and walk slowly around the pond, sitting occasionally to observe everything that is around the pond. Make sure to not only look, but also listen carefully.
5. As these things are noted, draw them. Don't foreget to look under rocks and other hiding places.
6. Take the jars home and place them in a reasonably warm (never under 60 F) area with subdued light.
D. Obsevations:
All of the materials required for the experiment were gathered before the procedures began. Each of the four jars were labeled. The first was labeled, 'Soil' the second, 'Rice'. The the third and fourth were labeled, 'Egg yolk' and the last one had the title, 'Hay'.
Labels were attached to the jars to indicate their particular specimens. After the pond water had been collected, the water was carefully poured into each of the four jars until they were all filled half-way with water. Then the lids to each of the jars were twisted on tightly. The jars were placed in a dark area with the correct temperature, (60 F).
When the pond was looked over carefully, obsevations were made. First, the water was very murky, and muddy. The water was also very stagnant. Not to mention the surface of the water had been covered with leaves.
Once in a while, water bugs appeared on the water and the surface of the water rippled. It was observed that there were some water plants. Some of those plants were coated in a slimy, algae-type substance. There were also many plants such as tall grasses, and lots of trees around the pond.
The trees around the pond were covered in green and blue moss. The temperature around the pond was cool and breezy, and the whole area smelled like dirt and mud. Some of the things that could be heard were the trees blowing in the wind and the birds chirping. When rocks were searched under, there seemed to be a white, hair-like substance.
Thus, when the pond was looked over, many different thing were observed. There was not a whole lot of life around the pond at the current time of year. However, if observations were made in a warmer season, the pond probably would have been full of life. Concluding, then, many things were learned about pond life and ecosystems.
E. Conclusions:
Concluding then, the hypothesis states that, "Observations will be made when the pond is looked at, and more will be known about ecosystems, and, when specimens are collected, they will be used for further study, and the microscopic world will be better understood." This sounds consistent. Thus the hypothesis is consistent with the observations.
First, much has been learned about aquatic ecosystems. Symbosis was experienced first-hand, as the pond was carefully observed and the specimens were collected. It was also observed that there are many organisms living in a pond, and that the specimens will be studied so that more is learned about the smaller organisms when the other experiments are completed. Certainly macroscopic organisms were observed, but it is required in the next few experiments that we study in depth the organisms that are not able to be seen with the naked eye.
Perhaps this experiment could be further improved. For instance, the pond could have been visited in a warmer season. This would result in more fish being seen in the pond, and also more plants would have been dwelling in and around the pond. Thus, the experiment would have been better if the pond was visited in a warmer season, because more life would be seen.
For further research, a book could be read and internet resources could be reviewed. One other idea is to visit the pond in early spring, when a new season is begginning. Life would be starting to grow, and reproductive elements could be observed. These things would provide more research, resulting in knowledge being gained.
Also, evidence for creation was found, beacuse it was realized that symbosis and all of the other complicated systems in creation could not be created by random chance, and that God must have created them. Thus, conclusions were made about ponds and the organisms that they contain, and samples of pond water were collected for further investigation of the smaller organisms. Also, we found data that supports and honors our truly amazing creator. Pond ecosystems are so complex and perfectly designed, that there must be a creator, beacuse surely random chance could not configure something so complex.
F. Bibliography:
Pond Ecosystems, Sandhyarani, Ningthoujam 1/30/09
Domain: http://www.buzzle.com
Document; http://www.buzzle.com/articles/pond-ecosystem.html
Rosenoff, Steven. Classroom Lecture. September 25, 2009.
Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia
Domain: http://en.wikipedia.org
Document: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquatic_ecosystem
Wile, Dr. Jay. L. and Durnell, Marilyn F. Exploring Creation with
Biology, 2nd Ed. Apologia Educational Ministries, Inc. 2008
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How does that work? So you will not do the fallacy detective, worldview books etc. but just study and have some coaching? I am not sure where you find that info. Can you tell me about the pricing of that part. Because that is what I am concerened about is she has a heavy load now. yet after next year I think she can easily clep out of the first 2 basics, and yes the coaching sounds good.
kathy
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College Plus
and College Plus Prep- for freshman/sopmores is what we are looking to do this year. We are considering using this program next year for tenth grade. It takes about an hour a day and then at the end of the year they take two cleps for college credit. That final month takes longer.
You could certainly do it all yourself, but there is some coaching that takes place and in the long run can save a ton on college. The college board posts what colleges take clep. Since we are really looking at state schools it seems an easy way to go that I don't have to plan to much. I work part time and so help is nice.
In College Plus reguralr you go thru coaching and then clep out of a lot and then do some online classes so you just finish at the college of your choice.
Anyone use there programs? Perhaps I should have posted this on college board?
I crossposted this on high school as well- but I would love to hear anyone whose child is/has gone through the regural College Plus program and how they feel about it?
Kathy
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/College Plus Prep- for freshman/sopmores is what we are looking to do this year. We are considering using this program next year for tenth grade. It takes about an hour a day and then at the end of the year they take two cleps for college credit. That final month takes longer.
You could certainly do it all yourself, but there is some coaching that takes place and in the long run can save a ton on college. The college board posts what colleges take clep. Since we are really looking at state schools it seems an easy way to go that I don't have to plan to much. I work part time and so help is nice.
Anyone use there programs? Perhaps I should have posted this on college board?
Kathy
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I was just checking out this website and it certianly could be done yourself. it looks like a decent program. I am looking at the course for younger kids too. Does anyone have any expereince with this?
kathy
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I think a lot does depend on what you are looking for. One person idea of rigourous and another is different- For us, we need balance for our dd too much rigor (burn out to dd) in high school will not fare well for her. :)
The online class was tough enough with all the memory and she made honors in it- I am happy with that and she fell in love with Biology.
Again all dc are different. For some, I understand the very idea that it is young earth turns them off right there. For us this is the draw to it and we are willing to take the risk- especially with some of the college kids who look back and say how amazingly Apologia has prepared them.
We do the Honors Apologia online class which does add a little bit more as the lectures are seperate from the text. We did Biology this past year and it is true her friends taking Biology at the local high school did not complete anywhere near the whole text and my dd ended up with a love for it while the others did not. Again all dc are different.
To take the SAT II subject test one will need to complete Apologia Anatomy and Phys. first. We are fine with this, but then we are not looking to get into ivies. We plan to just to two SAT II- one in math and the other science. She will do A & P for 11th grade and then take the SAT II that spring.
So as others have said- if it is working and you like and dc likes it- that really is way more than half the battle.
K
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I have to say I just read a link from red Wagon Tutorials to Jay Wile comments and it quoted a college girl who had taken the courses. She has been the only one to receive A's in some courses and her instructors can never beleive she always know the answer ahead of time. It really reinforced how much I feel good about Apologia. She gave credit to how deeply her underastanding of it all was and how she was previously not a science kid who now majors in it. The same thing happened to my dd this past year in Biology.
K:)
Hakim's History of the US
in High School and Self-Education Board
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I would love to hear feedback if you like/dislike the series as I am trying to decide on it, I am thinking I want to leave it out, but has anyone done Sonlight Core for 8th grade without using Hakim's History of the US?
If so, what did you use and how did you coordinate with the IG? Or did anyone use History of the US and not struggle with the world view aspect?
Thanks,
Kathy