[S/O Poll: Guns]

So you're taking the most broad reading of the first and narrow reading of the second? It comes down to how you read the prefatory clause and many a legal treatise has been argued on both sides, but considering the intent of a well regulated militia to retain freedom from tyranny as well as the right of the people to keep and bear arms I'd say personal use in defense of property and self is well supported. Intent in drafting matters, as does the context of our current geopolitical realities. Unless your really like to argue that groups such as the Michigan Militia are the only justified expression of that amendment.

 

There are scads of opinions from the bench dealing with this. I find it bemusing that in public discourse there is so much refusal to acknowledge the expanses of one amendment compared to the other, especially the extrapolations that apply only to modern technology and definitions of morality and personal expression. One could argue that defense of self and self vision against harm is the most fundamental freedom of all and that was understood as intrinsic by the Framers.

Look, I'm answering the "other" in the poll, not trying to change your mind. I'm applying the same standard for both amendments, not a broader/narrower interpretation as you suggest. I've had Constitutional Law at university - I'm not ignorant as you imply. I disagree with you, and you're not going to change my mind, especially not with attacks on my understanding. And I seriously doubt the founders would have chosen the language they did if they lived in these times or had any idea how their words would be twisted to support the modern atrocities you are apparently unwilling to cease. Stick with your rigid, selective support of the gun lobby and imo you are complicit in these deaths.

 

You want to go with a strict literal interpretation of the parts that suit you, own and keep all the muzzleloaders you want. That would be a double standard first/second amendment position.

[S/O Poll: Guns]

Serious question - why is it that the first amendment is applied to things like digital communications and snippets of code but the second amendment only applies to large scale citizen militias and apparently armories?

 

Bit of a double standard there on application of original intent and extrapolation of modern technology and definitions of agency.

I don't think I understand your question. The founders intended the second amendment to provide for "a well regulated militia". That's what it says. I don't see a double standard in expecting that all guns - antiquated as well as modern - to be used for that particular purpose.

 

Likewise, the first amendment should apply to speech in whatever form it is expressed - old fashioned and modern alike. No double standard.

 

Maybe you can answer how the double standard works where the "no infringement of right to bear arms" is the only part of the amendment being applied and promoted. What happened to the "well regulated" and the "militia" parts?

[S/O Poll: Guns]

Guns are protected for "a well regulated militia". Keep them in an armoury. Check them out for short periods if you're going hunting. Get rid of private storage & confiscate from those with illegal storage.

[Peri-Menopause.....hellllllp!]

I had the same exact symptoms a few years ago and thought it was thyroid related, but PcP did a panel and it came back normal. I thought one item was borderline based on my research, and insisted on seeing an endocrinologist who did a couple more tests and said I was fine. I tried to increase my iodine for a while, took a complete multivitamin with full Bs, and started to feel better. My symptoms went away over about a year, and I was finally able to go off anxiety meds. It's probably been 4-5 years that I've been asymptomatic. I still think it was thyroid related. I believe normal lab values are averages based on most people, but that doesn't mean they are within normal limits for every individual, kind of like body temperature or circadian cycles.

[I need a new computer; help me narrow my search?]

I just got a refurbished optiplex

64 bit Windows 7

8gb ram

Discrete video card w/2gb ram

1tb hdd

Dvdrw

Hdmi, dvi, 8 usb (2) of them usb3

 

Newegg $299

Doesn't come w/screen, mouse, keyboard because it is replacing an older dell media server. I purposely got the large tower because the last one died when the motherboard/processor overheated due to the case being too small. Plus we had run out of expansion slots and it really couldn't hold the video card we wanted with the giant heat sink.

 

Don't know what your budget is...

[Pioneer Woman's New Cookbook..]

I've never heard of her. Tell me about the first. :)

Joke, right?

[There's still women who don't know based on signs in bathrooms...]

FWIW, I thought there were signs in pretty much every public rest room that said not to flush any feminine products down the toilet.

 

I was surprised to read the posts from people who don't see those signs all the time.

 

I didn't think this thread was intended to be rude at all, but maybe that's because I'm one of the people who sees the signs all the time. I honestly thought it was common knowledge.

 

I had no idea that this would be a thread that would get unpleasant. It's kind of amazing that anyone is taking offense about whether or not they should flush tampons.

 

The offense isn't about whether or not one should do it - the offense is in the tone of some of the posts.

[There's still women who don't know based on signs in bathrooms...]

I was a teen in the 1980s and was taught to flush used cotton tampons, but not applicators or pads.  My dad is a master pipefitter, and has never mentioned these being a problem.  Any toilet clogs we've had over the years were not related to feminine hygiene products.  DH had to remove a toilet to unclog it once in the past 8 years, and I've only used my diva for a good 10 years.  I took water resources classes in college, and in our wastewater treatment courses we were never told about a problem with tampons - not even when we visited a large municipal treatment plant.  I am personally friendly with the guy responsible for our local small municipal treatment plant - he likes that I'm willing to talk about his job with him - and he has never mentioned a problem.  Any signs in particular buildings I've taken to mean they have old plumbing that can't handle it - specific to the building, not the entire system.  I've even had inner city kids staying here put their TP in the trashcan because their plumbing at home can't even handle that - they had to be taught to flush TP here; to think that because their plumbing can't handle TP means we should never flush TP would be a leap of logic.

 

The tone of a couple of the posts in this thread was scolding, rude, and offensive.

[Can we discuss wisdom teeth removal? (Poll)]

Having had orthodontics, I had mine removed as a late teen, and paid to have my kids done then too. I asked the oral surgeon about necessity of removing a couple that had already come in, and was told they would only cause problems later in life if they were left. That is what happened for dh, and he had them removed last year.

[Tall, thin, teen shirts for girls that are long enough?]

Where do you find longish shirts for tall thin trendy teens? Something that doesn't ride up when moving around? Maybe tunic length?

[To pre-cook pie crusts or not.... that is the question]

I've found that refrigerator crusts also shrink if you pre-bake them.  We just don't anymore.

[Really? Who didn't see THIS coming?]

We have good insurance now that we can actually afford to use.  I don't feel that anyone else is making health decisions for me; I make them myself in consultation with my physician.

[White Dishes]

You could add in a few of these book shaped plates to mix it up a bit.

[What say the Hive: Rude or not rude?]

Dh should have continued to work while socializing. Be mad at him, not the guy who didn't leave, particularly if Dh was somehow giving him cues to stay.

[Help me think this through - a space for dh]

I didn't read all the responses, and I know you may not like this idea, but what I'd do is give the two kids the larger bedroom, move the master into a smaller bedroom, and use the third for dh's office.

[dressing up like native americans for thanksgiving...feels icky to me]

Idk, I used to wish I could have been born a Native American in precolonial times.  I wonder if dress-up can help kids develop cross-cultural empathy?

[Tricks for being *on time* when you have littles?]

Plan to leave 1/2 hour earlier than you would need to leave if you were alone.

[Pocketknife for Dd13?]

Our kids get them as a 10th birthday gift.  They get to pick one out (with guidance) at the fair.

[Are staplers common?]

This actually makes a LOT of sense for documents that are going to be scanned.  I have the most problems scanning in documents that have had a staple removed. So when I print out documents to be reviewed, I put a paper clip on them. Once I get the signature I need, remove the paperclip and scan the document in. I had not even realized how seldom I used staples due to this.  (AFTER they are scanned in, I staple for my more permanent paper records -- but our main records are electronic now)

 

If you're going to scan them anyway, why not just accept only electronic submissions? 

Saves paper, ink, time printing, mail supplies, postage, time to scan, shredding, etc.

[Are staplers common?]

What?! No one thought to do this?!

 

(Throw back to my childhood in the 80s...) :p

Yep. That's how I did it when no staples were handy. Maybe op should teach this to her classes?

[King James Only]

Nm. Doesn't matter

[Things to Do: Nashville area?]

I am interested in taking a group of teens to the Nashville area next summer.  What are some of the must-see or even off-the-beaten-path things we shouldn't miss?

[Did you make life-shaping decisions based on dogma that you no longer adhere to?]

One teaching I wish that I had run across sooner was the idea that babies are a blessing from God, as opposed to a (fairly risky) choice.

 

The culture taught me that babies are inevitably bad for women--they trap them, stall or tank their careers, prevent them from achieving independence, sentence them to a miserable life of drudgery, hold them back or even wreck them financially, and make them dangerously vulnerable to men's whims.  Now, you can make a case for all of this cautionary stuff, but what I truly honestly never heard until I was in my thirties was the other side, and for some reason I didn't figure it out on my own.  Deep in my heart I always hoped to have a child or two, but I was taught to fear this to an extent that was really quite ridiculous.

 

I regret that I didn't see this sooner, and start trying to have children sooner.  That is the biggest thing that has changed for me in terms of Bible teaching that I got later on.

 

I think I could honestly say I know people for whom one or another of these has been true; it's not to say they don't love their children, just that having the responsibility of caring for children has limited them in many ways.  That is the nature of parenting.  The idea that "they are a blessing from God" doesn't lessen the downsides.  Are women supposed to also feel grateful to God that caring for their blessed children leads to a difficult life?  And if society truly felt that children were blessings from God, wouldn't they do everything in their power to support all mothers in raising those children?  But that's not the case with any of the public policy I've seen put forth by politicians who claim to hold the "blessing from God" stance.  I guess I just don't buy it.

[Creative Graphic t-shirts- Where to find them?]

Check out http://www.litographs.com/

 

The shirts are really a nice quality. The design/picture is made from white spaces between the text of the book. They have posters and totes too.

[Religious children less altruistic than atheist children?]

Here's a controversial observation:

My kids (well, the older ones at least,) are very sensitive to what they say or do around their many Christian friends and consciously avoid offending them.  Offending is really too strong of a word, but you get the idea.  Their Christian friends don't appear to struggle over whether to treat their perspective as universal in a group setting.

 

My 13yo has talked about how that's uncomfortable for her, but she loves her friends for many other reasons that outweigh that.

 

This has been the experience of my children as well.  While my kids try very hard to make sure not to offend, they are willing to tolerate the constant Christian rhetoric espoused by their friends because they love the friends anyway.  The friends have no qualms about saying things that may be considered quite offensive to non-Christians, which seems to come from a disconnect that others may possibly believe or think differently than they do.  It is unconscious intercultural communication incompetence; it is like they are not self-aware. 

 

Sadly, some of their oldest friendships have been ruined because the friends got to the point where they had nothing in their lives to talk about other than their religion - there was no common ground at all, and nothing they could relate to each other about anymore.  At that point we just had to cut ties.