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👋🼠We tried LA this year. My oldest got at least a third of the way through. She got frustrated because at least once a chapter she was required to translate words that weren't in the vocab or index. We eventually jumped ship back to Latin Prep. Definitely get the teacher's pages so you have the translations so you can help in these instances.
LFC is very slow. My 10yo is doing it but there's not much new to him after going through GSWL. I'd definitely pick up LA over LFC.
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My oldest (11.5) is working through WWS. She is a good little writer who has written many summaries/papers on topics of her choice. All of a sudden WWS is producing tears. I don't believe it's because the work is hard. I believe it's because the topoi assigns the topic and she finds them rather boring or she feels constricted by the assignment (include 6-8 plays, date some of them, read this essay for more background information, etc). She wants to free-write, which is not an option ATM. I feel like it's time for her to grow with her writing, especially since she's expressed interest in becoming a writer. She writes little stories and creative pieces regularly. The expository focus in WWS is killing it for her, I think. HOWEVER, I think it's important for her to learn expository writing and to give some more direction to her assignments. And I think there is something to be said about pushing through a program and growth through hard things.
The only time we have moaning is during topoi assignments. Today it was on lesson 20 where the student is supposed to write on Shakespeare. She did the chronological narrative piece fine. She decided which style she'd follow. But then she got upset because she was just listing plays and I pointed out that just a list of comedies does not a paragraph make and it's rather boring to boot. Come to find out, she didn't read the corresponding essay giving information about the plays. And I even read through the instructions with her.
So I think she just wants to be lazy. Or not work. I asked her if it was too hard. She said no. I asked her why she was falling apart about it. She said it was because it was boring and she didn't want to write about it; she wants to pick her topic. I told her that she doesn't always get to pick the topic and she needs to learn to write more than fiction stories.
So... Am I being too picky here? Should I let her do the easy W&R? Should I have her stick with WWS? She is on week 20, which is basically halfway through. (And it didn't get suddenly difficult. She just feels drudgery with the topics, I think.)
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My sixth grader is doing:
Latin Prep, Grammar for the WTM, Spelling power, Saxon 76, WTMA Middle Ages, Tiner's science books and Mystery science...
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We are working through season 1. Though, I bought it on Amazon because I was getting impatient waiting for SOMEONE to put it in streaming. Now I can watch the rest of them. It's been a while, but I still think it's my favorite show. ðŸ˜
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I steep more than one bag and add a creamer.
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In an effort to be more productive, I'd like to maybe invest in something like this. I loosely bullet journal, but I want more focused planning. I'd love it if the planner included a space for gratitude journaling.
I've seen the Inspire Now Journal, but it's UK and Amazon won't ship it to me here in the States.
What's your favorite?
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I've looked at it often. But it never feels like it'll fit my kids. And I want to do my own thing for math and LA. So...mostly I want it for extra history (because I want to stick with a 4 year cycle for our main) and then maybe some science. I don't want to do Ecclesiastical Latin. So... I invested in the read aloud program for my youngest kid and that's as much enrichment from them as I can hack. And that sounds good. Lol
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I wouldn't worry about it as long as she understands that division is the inverse of multiplication. For the actual problem set in the lessons, I give my kids a multiplication table to glance at until they have it more fluid fact recall. (They do not get the "cheat sheet" for tests.). I've had two work through 54 now with no issues.
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You can start with LFC A. There's a DVD that goes with it, but you'll definitely still need to be teaching the program.
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It would be a lot of information each week. The beauty of GFTWTM is in the incremental steps that slowly elevates the student's understanding. I think if you're going to do it in a coop setting, I'd take a year to get through one semester.
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How long do the daily lessons take? Do you think it would be within the realm of possibility for a 4th grader to hang with the lessons?
With my language-strong 11yo, the lessons take about 15m. But the first couple of weeks took closer to 30 as she eased into the program.
I have a fourth-grader and I wouldn't do it with him. It requires a fair amount critical/logic stage thinking. My 4th grader is gifted and analytical, but he doesn't just salivate over grammar and diagramming so I'm not willing to push it. I'd rather he use his heavy thinking in Latin and other subjects.
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I'd start at the beginning because it's awesome. But you could also look at the table of contents and figure out where to start. Or drop grammar and wait till next year.
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I'd be inclined to start something new that's spiral - something that won't let her compare herself to her younger sister, but also something that will have constant review. Maybe CLE or Saxon?
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Well yes, but all university-bound US students study a foreign language, I believe, so learning the basics of grammar is inevitable. I learned basic grammar through French at school, not English.
Yeah, but my kids have learned a lot more grammar from an inflected language than I did learning Spanish.
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What is formal grammar for, in your opinion? I just ask because I have two sons who learned to be decent writers mostly from reading decent writing. They had very light grammar instruction. One is studying English and Classics at a world top three university for English. The other has five good offers from UK top twenty-five universities to study English and French.
If your daughter is just absorbing decent style from writing, you might be interested in Galore Park. It's what my boys used. This is the book for age 10-11. The books can be obtained with free shipping to North America from bookdepository.co.uk
I'm gonna guess that their grammar understanding was augmented by their Latin studies, right Laura?
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We're using GFTWTM and loving it so far.
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I'd finish up FLL 4, but I'm that type A person. My 6th grader is using GftWTM and loving it. It starts back at the beginning. I would make sure your student has chants/definitions memorized because that will make things a lot smoother.
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I've never done any of your list so take this with a grain of salt... Is it possible to redo VL 1 with your oldest and fold in 11yo? Or even have oldest teach 11yo?
I'd probably try and pick an entry-level middle school course and have both work through it. First Form Latin could be good for both the oldest too. Latin Alive is another option.
You could likely do Henle, but take it slower.
For the younger, Latin for Children or Prima Latina if you'be still got it. Or just wait.
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I am very math-oriented with some kids who are and some who aren't. I actually love Saxon and the simplicity of it all. It teaches theory very well (and I do the teaching, my kids aren't just reading it) and the spiral adds intensity and allows the steps of math to unfold as the kids practice things over and over again. My non-arithmetic kid is doing great with it. And it's solid. And my mathy kid does great with it as well (using it a grade ahead).
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Board games:
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We did the first half or so of Treasured Conversations and then wrote across the curriculum. I wouldn't start WWS unless you're driving it. Not only does it teach writing, but it's teaching my daughter systematic organization and following written directions.
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I just don't want to have to go back and do ANOTHER surgery if it doesn't work. But if it's unnecessary I don't want to make him hurt.
CAP Latin for Children A or CAP Latin Alive 1?
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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Latin Prep is Galore Park's junior high Latin curriculum. It's pretty thorough. LA has bigger chunks to translate, but it's only at the end of the lesson. LP has shorter translation through all of the chapter. LA almost never had her translating into Latin. LP varies between translating from to translating to Latin. We did have the DVDs, but I didn't watch it with her. It basically explained everything that the book said and then would work through one sentence per exercise and the student was supposed to pause and do the exercise and move on. It did not give answers. Or help. It does teach what's in the workbook, but my oldest had already been through half of LP1 so she didn't actually need the DVD to tell her how to do it.
Getting Started With Latin really is a great primer. I'd even recommend you run through it before teaching Latin even if your girl isn't going to do GSWL. It'll help you grasp some of the order of the language.