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  1. I'm not sure why some things are labeled Waldorf...

    What's wrong with natural toys and playsilks even if you don't consider yourself Waldorf?

    What's wrong with celebrating the seasons?

    Or getting some books with beautiful poetry and rhymes?

    Some people don't allow TV and video games for their dc and probably most Waldorfy-people don't. But that doesn't make you a Waldorf-person.

    Fairy tales and imaginative play is a big part of Waldorf, that doesn't mean "regular" people won't do this just because they don't agree with some guys philosophies.

     

    A lot of the stuff that is considered Waldorf here, is pretty standard stuff in Germany. In regular kindergartens and schools.

     

    I'm typing in my phone, sorry...

     

    ETA: my point is I like a lot of the things that are considered Waldorf here in the States. To me they are just part of what I grew up with. Trust me, my mother has no clue what Waldorf even is. So just take the parts you like and do what you want with them, don't worry about what other people consider them to be.

     

    :iagree: esp. with the bolded. What is standard in Germany is most available here through Waldorf catalogs, so it's easy to confuse the two. The aesthetic is very appealing to me and I don't see any problem with any of the questions you asked.

  2. FWIW, our DS8 (no LDs) still occasionally uses c-rods, though he prefers to figure things out in his mind. I sometimes "force" him to use rods to explain a concept or help him see what is going on in a number sentence. For example, rods are very helpful when learning to add and subtract large numbers when you need to "carry" or "borrow". Rather than just memorizing an algorithm, the student can see what's happening and understand the concept better.

     

    I wouldn't neglect memorizing math facts, but if the rods help a child to understand a concept and see that red and lt. green always makes yellow, I would allow them to continue using the rods (esp. in a LD situation).

  3. In the bleak midwinter, frosty wind made moan,

    Earth stood hard as iron, water like a stone;

    Snow had fallen, snow on snow, snow on snow,

    In the bleak midwinter, long ago.

     

    Our God, Heaven cannot hold Him, nor earth sustain;

    Heaven and earth shall flee away when He comes to reign.

    In the bleak midwinter a stable place sufficed

    The Lord God Almighty, Jesus Christ.

     

     

    From Christina Rossetti's hymn In the Bleak Mid-Winter. It's been on my mind a lot lately. Praying he will warm the stable of your heart amid all the bleakness. :grouphug:

  4. You're not crazy. Close church friends of my parents lived in a house built by Hessian soldiers during the Revolutionary War. They were both ps science teachers until retirement and told us very matter-of-factly about the ghosts in their house. They seemed rather unfazed by it, like it had just become the reality they lived with.

     

    I have also heard first-hand stories of dogs avoiding rooms, etc.

     

    You seemed to hint at a sinister aspect of the story. Having the house blessed or cleansed is a good idea. If you're a Christian (sorry, I can't remember), it might help to meditate on God's sovereignty and control of both the seen and unseen, and to keep in mind that shadows have no power over us unless we allow them to (by fearing them more than trusting God).

     

    Sorry for all the weird feelings that go along with your situation. :grouphug:

  5. Favorite hand-shaking memory: As a student in Germany, I attended a German-speaking Evangelical Free (Baptist) church. When the elders went forward to serve communion, they would all shake hands with each other before picking up the communion trays. So congenial!

     

    I often shake hands when meeting new people. More often in mixed company than when in a group of women only.

  6. I would ask myself:

    1. Am I happy with the leadership of the choir? Will they be chaperoning or will there be other chaperones? [And could I get a free ticket by offering to chaperone? :D] How closely will they be supervising?

    2. Am I happy with her friends in the choir? Would they be a good influence on a trip like this?

    3. Am I comfortable with the itinerary/where they'll be staying?

    4. Do I feel that DD's maturity level allows me to trust her in the situations she'll be in? IE, She won't be trying to get away with as much as possible.

     

    I spent my 16th birthday on a church trip in Germany and it was a wonderful experience! My mother was also on the trip, but we stayed with different host families.

     

    HTH a little!

  7. Yes. Their decision as an adult does not affect me the way that getting drunk would or drunk driving . . .

     

    Could it theoretically be a problem if the diabetic were the driver? [i'm remembering a lady from our previous church who was diabetic and pulled out in front of a truck during some kind of diabetic 'episode'.] Maybe it wouldn't be a problem after the meal?

  8. I have been raised through the ATI program from 4th grade through high school, and after coming out of it, I would not recommend the Wisdom Booklet curriculum or ATI to anyone. The website that jgalicinski found, recoveringgrace.org, offers some very true accounts of the kind of "biblical teachings" and "doctrines" that we were brainwashed with. I encourage you, especially, to read the essay "A Call for Discernment", written by the Elders of Calvary Bible Church (http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2011/10/a-call-for-discernment/), which points out the hermeneutical errors Bill Gothard makes in supporting the main areas of his teachings. Some of the stories shared on the site are more extreme than others, but you will get the sense of legalism that pervades ATI teaching.

     

    Almost all of Bill Gothard's teachings, including the Wisdom Booklets, has to do with step-by-step procedures for attaining God's blessing. If you don't follow the steps, you are liable to Satan's attacks, and you will lose God's blessings. The problem is, these steps are wholly conceived by Bill Gothard, while using Scripture verses often taken out of context to support his points. He also often takes his own standards and sets them up as "God's standards", so that you must follow his rules in order to be a good Christian. It is a very formulaic, works-based approach to Christian living, and there is hardly any room for grace.

     

    After my parents attended seminary at Columbia International University, they realized that many of Bill Gothard's biblical principles and doctrines were supported by verses taken entirely out of context or misapplied. There are many logical fallacies and hermeneutical fallacies throughout his publications. Yet he manages to twist Scripture in such a way as to make it sound convincing to those who do not dig deeper and study Scripture for themselves.

     

    Here is one, for example, taken from The Journal Of Virtue:

     

    "Some Christians try to justify 'social drinking' on the basis that Jesus turned water into wine. That Jesus did this is inconceivable. Fermentation is a process of death, and He is life."

     

    Here is Bill Gothard's definition of grace: "Grace is the desire and the power that God gives us to do His will."

     

    And here is one of his points supporting his argument that dancing is sinful: "The sister of Moses danced after victory... The next time we hear of Miriam, she is again taking a leadership position--this time speaking against her brother Moses. God's anger was directed toward Miriam for this, and she became leprous... Assuming that Miriam was acting properly in leading the women, it is still significant that the next event recorded about her leadership was negative." He makes the same points with Jephthah's daughter, David and Saul returning from battle with the Philistines, and David dancing before the Lord while Michal despised him. All of these points are examples of the logical fallacy, post hoc ergo propter hoc (because an event happened after that one, this event was caused by that one). You can read his entire article in the Journal of Virtue, pgs. 32-35.

     

    Note also that Bill Gothard never properly footnotes his citations or his numerous anecdotes so you can never go back and verify his supporting arguments.

     

    I am in seminary myself at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, trying to relearn how to interpret the Bible without committing the same hermeneutical fallacies by exegeting the original texts.

     

    It is impossible for me to give a thorough explanation of this system of teaching, but I would caution anyone looking into this program to examine the materials carefully and consult your pastors, elders and trusted Bible scholars on Bill Gothard's interpretations. I hope this at least gave you a little taste of what is wrong with it. I am utterly grateful for God's faithfulness and grace to me to allow me to come out of this program and have the opportunity to see his Word with fresh eyes.

     

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! I appreciated your response.

  9. I enjoy seeing my teens develop their own style and since they all stay within the modesty standard we've set, dh and I rarely say anything about their outfits~although dh did do a lot of sighing when my oldest went through his t-shirt and pinstripe suit vest phase ;).

     

    It is harder for me to just smile and say "that looks nice" to my girls though when I really, really, want them to switch out a part of their outfit. I chose to become their ally instead, and began picking up accessories for them that I knew they'd love. "Look at this necklace. Don't you think it'll look great with your red skirt and boots? Oh...it doesn't work with the blouse~do you have anything else?" :)

     

    I know them well enough to pick out scarves, necklaces, hair accessories, etc. that they will want to wear and will willingly give up whatever article doesn't "quite" go with it.

    My oldest dd actually likes to run her outfits by me now before she wears them in public; dd (13) isn't quite there yet, but I'm working on her ;).

     

    Smart Mama! Thanks for the advice!

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