KSera
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I’m seeing suggestion tonight that one of the Victoria cases was transmitted in an outdoor dining setting. I would really like to know more about that. Was it truly open air, or was it one of those enclosed tents some restaurants have put up in the US and called “outdoor”. Did the people go in to use the bathroom at some point or otherwise share indoor space?
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On 5/20/2021 at 7:18 PM, KSera said:
I'll try to update for myself. I had it for the first time in my life after both Modernas (which makes sense, as they are 28 days apart). It was milder the second time. Now I will wait to see what happens this time around. I really feel mine was shot induced and it won't happen this time, but I will find out soon enough.
Everything is back to normal. So, 1st Moderna given mid cycle, followed a few days later by spotting that lasted the rest of the cycle (first time in my life I’ve had that). 28 days later, 2nd Moderna mid cycle, and several days later, milder spotting than the previous month, but lasting maybe a week still. Following cycle, no shots, no illness, everything back to normal. No spotting at all. I’m just one person, but that pattern highly suggests to me that it was vaccine induced. Interestingly, my ob/gyn acknowledges this stuff is likely shot related. But to emphasize again, I have zero concern about this. These things happen in response to the immune system being activated. My concern would be far, far higher if I contracted actual Covid while pregnant.
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This article is about vaccine misinformation as the biggest hurdle to vaccination, and addresses some of the common ones:
Misinformation remains the biggest hurdle as vaccination effort turns to cash incentives
Many of the vaccine reluctant have expressed vague concerns that, perhaps, the trials have simply failed to identify dangerous side effects that will suddenly appear round about the time that most of the population is fully vaccinated.
Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, called those assertions highly unlikely. In the history of vaccines, he noted, side effects have always appeared within two months of administration.
“There are no long-term effects where you find that one year, two years, later your child or you develop some problem that wasn’t picked up initially,” Offit said. “It has never happened.”
That’s not to say that clinical trials, even those with many thousands of participants, will necessarily spot every rare complication.
As was the case with a very small number of blood clots among the recipients of the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine, it is possible for indications to crop up only when a very wide swath of the general population has been inoculated.
But, especially where the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines — available for longer than Johnson & Johnson doses — are concerned, we’re now way past the point where even very, very rare side effects should be visible.
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Along the topic of belief in conspiracy claims and misinformation, I read this study today that I thought was really interesting. The short summary is that people are very poor judges of their own ability to spot “fake news” or misinformation, and that those people who most overestimate their ability to determine what things are true are the most likely to accept fake news and the most likely to disseminate it to others. This is a thing I think is going to be really important for our kids all to be well educated in (though if those doing the educating are so poor at it, that begs the question of how the problem will be fixed). It would be cool if there was some online test of some kind people could do to see how they do in their ability to identify false information and evaluate sources.
The study:
Overconfidence in news judgments is associated with false news susceptibility-
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Wasn’t sure where to drop this, but I thought this Australian piece on talking to vax hesitant friends was good:
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1 hour ago, TravelingChris said:
He is still strongly supportive of it. My city voted for Trump. My city has a very good vaccination rate though less so in the young adult range and also in the black community. OTOH, another area of my state also voted for Trump and has a low vaccination rate.
The one person I know who definitely seems to believe QAnon stuff is against the vaccine- but that goes along with that nutty conspiracy. That nutty conspiracy is not very popular in my city--- way too many educated and analytical people.
Sounds like this might go along with what I’ve noticed. Are you in a city and the low vaccination area of your state is more rural? It seems to me that Republican* voters in cities don’t have the same prevalence of anti vax and conspiracy beliefs as Republican voters in rural areas (and I say that as someone who lives rural—I’m not saying it to put down rural dwellers). I’m in a rural area with a vax rate 30% points lower than the nearest (highly educated) suburb, less than 10 miles away. Extremely different demographics between the two areas. Interestingly, the highly vaxed suburb is way, way more racially diverse. My rural area is shockingly white compared to all the nearest suburbs and the nearest city. Demographics are strange things.
*I debated what word to use here—Trump or Republican. They are obviously not the same thing. I have found in my area, city Republicans are less likely to be Trump voters than rural Republicans. FWIW.
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No, not at all. DH and I were discussing the same thing yesterday, and he also never learned about it until he was an adult. Different state from me.
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Could you play up the STEM education arm of Legos purchased through Lego’s education store? The Lego Robotics EV type stuff? Like: https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-mindstorms-education-ev3-core-set/5003400#lego-mindstorms-education-ev3
I think it would be all about how you present it. You could talk about wanting him to start learning some engineering STEM stuff and that a lot of schools have Lego Robotics teams for Middle and High schoolers and you’d like him to have an opportunity to start learning it to see if it would be something he would like to participate in?
eta: I see you just mentioned Lego robots, so maybe you already have this?
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11 hours ago, whitestavern said:
KSera. He is on the 5 mg dose. So far no side effects. The Adderall is 20 mg/2x daily. So I guess that's the IR. What is your D's dosage, if I may ask?
5mg isn’t into the therapeutic range for most people. My dc’s psych likes to start there as well, but it took 10 to make the difference. While it’s supposed to take 4-6 weeks for full effect, it does seem like one that frequently starts showing some improvement after just a week or two. That was our experience. The adderall dose is way higher than my dc. They take 10mg 1-2x a day (it’s IR, so they have started with the second dose on days they need to be able to study and such later in the day. The first dose covers class time.) He may be a bigger kid than mine, but I think if they’re not feeling anything at 20 mg twice a day, trying something else would be worth it.
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I’ve seen places using similar policies, though slightly stronger (“masks encouraged for unvaccinated” etc), but none of those actually match what the CDC guidelines say. If places aren’t going to follow CDC guidelines, they should do so without using CDC guidelines as their excuse for changing their policies.
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How long has he been on the lexapro and by low dose, are you talking 5mg? Is the adderall extended release or immediate release (XR or IR)? My oldest is on the same combo, and the XR made no noticeable difference, but the IR helps her a lot. If the lexapro dosage is less than 10mg, I wouldn’t be surprised for him to see no effect. A low dose has the advantage of giving an opportunity to see if there are any really unpleasant side effects before increasing.
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1 hour ago, Pen said:
I had not seen it specified that magnets were sticking to injection sites after the mRNA type ones only
🤦♀️ They’re not sticking to injection sites at all! This illustrates perfectly how despite providing nothing but evidence against this “theory”, this thread is still serving to reinforce some people’s belief that this is a real thing.
1 hour ago, Pen said:also they already had a novel mRNA form to get news coverage ... perhaps holding back another novel system for more buzz to be revealed later - at booster time perhaps — might be an idea for maintaining interest and articles and TV footage when novel mRNA (at least novel in regard to use as a system to try to vaccinate humans) was no longer so buzz generating
And all of this is a more logical, rational explanation than that the videos are fake and the vaccine is just a vaccine?
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1 hour ago, rebcoola said:
Even if all the people who made videos and pictures came out and said it was a hoax their would still be people who believe. They would say the government/bill gates got to them or something.
That’s actually been shown in research. Even after telling someone something was a lie, there’s a tendency for people to continue to believe it’s true.
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7 hours ago, Happy2BaMom said:
This whole thread (along with others of a similar vein) remind me of Brandolini's Law: "The amount of energy needed to refute bullsh*t is an order of magnitude larger than that to produce it."
So true. I fear people sharing the results of trying the magnet trick themself only lends credence to this being an actual phenomenon that needs investigation (even though all who have tried have found no truth to it). No amount of evidence is going to convince someone who thinks this is true. As you’ve seen, they just come up with an alternative explanation in order to maintain their belief.
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I like the Repose Gray and the Ibis white against your trim. Depends how white you would want to go. I can imagine the Ibis might be quite bright if the whole room was done in it.
I appreciate you starting this thread, as I am in paint picking mode as well, and the posts have been quite helpful. I’m thinking I should hire @prairiewindmomma to just pick my color for me 😁.
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25 minutes ago, Trilliumlady said:
I know it seems odd. Were I on the other side in a similar conversation I’d be saying and thinking the same things. I am not saying I believe anything untoward was in the vaccine at all. All I’m saying is what we saw. And these were women (and one man) who for the most part were very excited to get the vaccine (a couple were a bit more hesitant, but chose to do so anyway).
I am intrigued by the piece of tissue paper under the magnet idea, though...
By what mechanism are you thinking this is plausible? And what made you think it was related to being vaccinated, considering you didn’t try it on any unvaccinated people? (Not that I’m asking you to. Quite honestly, I wouldn’t believe any random person who said they did this and it stuck to vaccinated people and not to unvaccinated. There are people saying all kinds of whackadoodle things these days, so frankly, “someone said it on the internet” doesn’t carry any weight unless said person has a reason for me to see them as a reliable source. No offense to you personally, just sharing that’s my general approach to reading things random people say on the Internet.)
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41 minutes ago, craftyerin said:
We drove a 2007 Sienna until 2017 and it was fantastic. Super happy, never any maintenance problems, loved it. When we got ready to replace it, I drove every minivan on the market. There were two clear front runners--the Odyssey and the (at that time, brand new) Chrysler Pacifica. I wanted the Pacifica, my husband wanted the Honda. We drove both multiple times, had hours of discussion and debate, and in the end, bought the Odyssey. I don't think there was a wrong choice, and I'm very happy with my van, but I still look wistfully at Pacificas when I see them around town. Our Odyssey has been pretty good. More recalls than I would have liked, but all minor stuff that has been easily fixed. Otherwise no maintenance issues, and we're taking it on its 3rd cross country road trip this summer.
Almost exactly the same series of events for me, except shift the dates all a year earlier, so the Pacifica was getting ready to come out, but wasn’t quite available yet. I still regret not having waited. The Odyssey we got is okay, but there are a lot of things I liked about my old Sienna better. And I absolutely hate the Odyssey’s whole infotainment console design with a passion. Super user unfriendly. Hopefully they have redesigned. Give me analog dials anyday, vs having to go through multiple touch screen menus, 5 menus deep to find whatever I want to change. I can’t do anything with it while driving.
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2 hours ago, Trilliumlady said:
I had Covid within the past two months and am not vaccinated by recommendation of my healthcare provider d/t knowledge of personal health history.
It’s interesting I haven’t seen anyone who had actually been vaccinated themself report that they believe this magic magnet theory. (Well, not actually that interesting, as it’s thoroughly unsurprising.)
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35 minutes ago, mathnerd said:
My Google Maps app knows every single trip that I make, it sends me a monthly summary on what places I visited, gives me an automatic prompt on where I might be headed based on the past several weeks of travel history (e.g. pick up kid at 3:45 pm from sports practice etc). Why waste money on microchipping me?
This is undoubtedly true for a majority of people fretting about imaginary microchips in vaccines. Ironically, I really hate all the online tracking and thus I don’t use Google maps and I use whatever tracking blockers and privacy settings and everything else I can to reduce tracking as much as possible (knowing that a significant amount of data about me is still able to be amassed), yet even I, paranoid about all the tracking that goes on these days, have not one iota of concern that Bill Gates is trying to microchip me and track my movements. 🤷♀️
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15 hours ago, Spryte said:
Big Florastor fan here, but she’s anaphylactic to dairy and it apparently has dairy. Grrrr.
I don’t know if S. boulardii helps with this particular issue (have only used for gut), but the Jarrow brand of it is dairy free, fwiw.
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2 hours ago, 8filltheheart said:
Just to share our experience, not outsourcing classes has not impacted my kids negatively at all. My last 2 homeschool graduates had 2-3 total outsourced classes all the way through high school. My current rising college sophomore took German through German Online and Connie's chem class (the latter I didn't note as taken by an outside source on her transcript). My just graduated college dd took private Russian lessons and 1 DE spring of sr yr (so no grade when she applied and was accepted). Both were accepted to college with no problem and with scholarships. My older dd was awarded her large public OOS U's top competitive scholarship (only 20 OOS students receive the award). The mantra to outsource in order to validate homeschooling is not a factually accurate narrative.
Oh, I totally know outsourcing is not necessary. I just felt, as I said, that it gave a more accurate, complete picture of what her schooling had been like to note those classes taken with someone else. I know I didn’t have to do it that way, and I don’t expect it would have made a difference in where she was accepted.
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1 hour ago, Farrar said:
You don't even have to list the instructor if you don't want. I think transcripts are cleaner without all the providers - and colleges don't care much or know who any of them are anyway.
Yeah. With my oldest, I just wanted to indicate in some way that those classes were taken with an outside provider. It gave a more complete picture of how we homeschooled to show that not all classes were taken at home. She didn’t have as many outsourced as my current high schooler, though. I have a couple years still to stew on how I want to do it this time.
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34 minutes ago, stripe said:
Yeah, I don’t like the “Learning should be FUN” in multicolored fonts business, but some derivation of “Funda” is means learning in several African languages, one of which I assume the founder speaks as she is an immigrant from South Africa. I think you could just list the name of the instructor as it’s not accredited.
That is good to know. I had wondered if there was a meaning I wasn’t getting. For some reason it always makes me think of Fundy, Fundy homeschoolers 😊. Which isn’t how I want to advertise my highschooler’s science studies 😉.
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5 hours ago, JumpyTheFrog said:
Is there anything for biology or chemistry like Derek Owens? Thinkwell seems to only be AP level.
Videos and assignments, you mean? Have you looked at FundaFunda biology? (I wish they’d change the name. I don’t want to put “Funda Funda Academy” on my kid’s transcript, so I may have to do it differently than I did my oldest’s, but the biology class was good.)
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Possibly of interest regarding a “conspiracy” type claim - possibly vaccine related. Or not
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Right. And all of that is aside from the actual effect and findings of the article above that people who demonstrate they are the worst at identifying what is true in the news and what are good sources are the same ones who share, post and forward those stories to others the most.