When do you start teaching logic and vocabulary? - actually programs

[pocjets]

My oldest will be in 6th grade next year and I've never done an official vocabulary program with her. I was just if I should start something official this year and if so, what? Also, do you do a formal logic curriculum in 6th, 7th, or 8th grade?

[greyseal]

Bumping!

[HomeAgain]

We did a word roots program starting in 6th.  Not vocab, but breaking words down to find approximate meaning.

 

Formal logic is started after they hit puberty and wanting to argue or be right on every.single.point.

[hollyhock]

I begin logic with my kids in 5th. They do Logic Countdown, then Logic Lift-off in 6th, Fallacy Detective in 7th and Thinking Toolbox in 8th. I'm not sure if any of those courses count as "formal" logic, but I like them. I also keep Perplexors around for them to do for fun.

 

I usually don't do a vocab program until they are done with spelling. So far that's been in 8th grade for my oldest and we did Vocabulary Cartoons, which I loved because it was so simple and painless. I believe WTM recommends a word-roots program like Vocabulary from Classical Roots.

[Momto6inIN]

After they're done with spelling, we start Vocab from Classical Roots (that's about 7th-ish around here).

 

For logic we do Building Thinking Skills and Mind Benders and Crypto Mind Benders in 3rd-8th, but no formal logic til 9th when they do Art of Argument and Argument Builder. It's not TWTM way, but it works for us.