quark Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Seeking thoughts on Introduction to Logic I from eIMACS. DS qualifies and we are considering signing him up. If your DC have done this course, how did they like it and roughly what schedule did they follow (e.g. how many hours a day, how many days a week etc)? Just trying to get an idea so I can help the boy plan his week. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBM Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 My son took it when he was about 14 during summer and enjoyed it quite a bit. IIRC, I think the course allows 9-10 months to finish (not sure) but my son finished in a summer and did well. (He thought he was supposed to finish it in 3 months which is why he went at a fast clip, but he also really enjoyed the problems.) The instructor was wonderful. My only regret is that ds is so busy now that he can't finish the rest of the courses. We thought they were really good. I would say on average ds worked about 2-3 hours per day although I can't remember exactly. He tends to work in fits and spurts with breaks in between. That's good and bad. When he hunkers down, he gets a lot done but when he doesn't feel like working -- well, that's another story! He will have to learn to pace himself. Good luck to your son! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Thanks MBM! DS just logged in for the first time a few minutes ago and keeps calling out "I like this! I like this!". So far it's good! I'm going to suggest about an hour a day and leave it to him if he wants to do less or more. Yes, 9-10 months is about right...it says 40 weeks in the welcome email. And I just read the email again...they suggest 4 hours a week and I think that's quite do-able seeing how much he likes it so far. Your son finishing it in a summer is amazing! :) Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I'll be interested in hearing how he likes it as he continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Will be happy to update and if I forget please give me a nudge! :) He has spent close to 2.5 hours so far on it today and doesn't consider it school-time but fun time. Looking good. However, we have encountered upper level courses that start this way but get too challenging or frustrating for him a few weeks in, requiring either some wait-time for maturity to catch up, or letting it go, knowing that he has lots of time to pursue it again if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I've been looking at it.... I have the hardcopy of their logic books (Book 1 and 2 of EM series), but I'm also curious how the online program goes... whether it's similar to the text or if they've got more added in (So far the Elements of Mathematics Operational Systems course is very like the text but with some stuff removed (fewer problems, tossed out the time zone section), so I don't see paying so much if it doesn't offer more...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Edited to provide a more detailed update and review for others who want to try this program. DS has finished LM1 and did very well. eIMACS sends you a university level course transcript upon completion of each level...how's that for a lovely name? :) You can see the details of each level here. The course DS completed is level one. He hopes to continue level two in summer 2014 (too many things on his plate atm). I believe eIMACS targets these courses towards gifted 7th-12th graders. Not entirely sure on the grade level. They were okay with my 10yo taking it after he qualified through their placement test. The placement test tests aptitude for both the adv. math logic and computer science tracks. DS qualified for both but chose to take math. DS was assigned an instructor to help him if he had problems. DS mostly worked on his own but emailed the instructor (they have a messaging function built into the platform or you may also email using your own email platform) about 5-6 times in total when he encountered problems. I really liked that the instructor (who was prompt with replies) did not answer him directly but gave him hints, like the AoPS hints at the back of the AoPS books. The online platform allows for students to answer all questions online and maintain a digital notebook to write and test proofs. DS chose to write the proofs with a graph paper notebook and pen/ pencil (he likes working the old fashioned way). You can track grades and sessions online (e.g. how much time was spent this week/month/year and so on). eIMACS will also email the progress reports to the parents. I found the grading method (extra credit, weighting etc) confusing at first but after reading the progress reports it started to make more sense. This is a 40-week course. Earlier I had written that he took about 38 weeks in total and about 3 hours a week on average. I quickly recalculated using the sessions page. His online hours are approximately 50 hours. So I am guessing that only half of the approximately 38x3 hours were spent online. Since DS used a real notebook instead of the online notebook, I think it took him longer than someone who might choose to use the digital notebook? Not really sure about this. Just be aware though that if your student spends 5-6 hours a week, s/he should probably be able to finish it in half the time that it took DS. Unfortunately, I am no good at answering content questions because I have never taken logic courses in my life. But I can ask DS if anyone has specific questions. LMK! Oh BTW, we used our virtual charter school stipend to pay for this course. That's another reason (but not a key one) why we think we will stagger it to one level per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Quark - AWESOME!!!! And if it's their Book 1: Logic, that's exactly my undergrad math logic course, so I would say it matches as a university level course. Glad it was a success! (and let me know if this is more detail than you'd like & I'll happily edit anything) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Congratulations! If you need to transcript it, I would say that 'Mathematical Logic' would be the course title, and it would be a mathematics course. It is in the mathematics department at most universities (if they teach it -- for example, mine is too small to have sufficient enrollment for that class). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattarrattat Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Quark, what an accomplishment! Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Congratulations to your son!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Thank you everyone! We celebrated with ice cream and donuts . :D :party: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Congratulations! If you need to transcript it, I would say that 'Mathematical Logic' would be the course title, and it would be a mathematics course. It is in the mathematics department at most universities (if they teach it -- for example, mine is too small to have sufficient enrollment for that class). Thank you kiana! This is very helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MASHomeschooler Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Congratulations! And thanks for the info; eIMACS is on the outer edge of my radar for when mine are older, so I appreciate the firsthand feedback to file away for later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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