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  1. Looking into logic curriculum for next year and my key need is budget friendly. Are the dvds necessary for Memoria Press’ Introductory Logic (and the following books)? Could we do the curriculum without the dvds?
  2. Online classes, groups, summer anything? She cannot take part in competitions in the fall. Best if affordable.
  3. Does anyone know of lesson plans to go along with these two books to flesh them out and make a high school class out of them? I'm not looking for alternatives to these books because I already own these and the online logic class I was going to have her take fell through, so I'm trying to scramble and put something together with what is on my shelves. TIA
  4. My son, 10th grade, is currently in Traditional Logic 1 w/MPA. Looking at Memoria Press Academy's schedule for next year, there is only one unattractive fall option for TLII (time-wise) and several good options for spring. But, Material Logic has a good time offer for the fall. It's not a big deal about taking ML in-between TLI and TLII, is there? Thanks, Rachel
  5. We just completed Book 1, and will be starting Book 2 this week. Overall - My son and I enjoyed going through most of this book (except for the Ps and Qs!!). I have learned alot as well. It's been challenging and reading the intro for book 2 has me a little concerned about difficulty - but we'll take it one day at a time I guess - I'm hoping that if we have to skim through chapter 2 again that it won't affect him in future courses. I'm really treating it as a basic introduction - because I feel very inadequate at times trying to respond to some of the discussion questions. But I
  6. Hello: I am new in this forum, but more than one year pursuing a Christian Classical Education for my little son Octavio ( 4 1/2 yo). We live in Saudi Arabia, and when is posible I like to attend the Montly Lectures in Classical Education ( Escondido Tutoreal). Do you know "Freebie of the Day" website? http://www.homeschoolfreebie.wholesomechildhood.com/ They have great free resource per day, Today Freebie are Two Lesson from The Thinking Toolbox, do you know that book? It is great I have already The Fallacy Detective from the same authors. Well, I will go now to read more
  7. Can you tell it's time to shop for curriculum? :tongue_smilie: Ds10 will start 5th grade in the fall and it will be time for logic. Where do I start? What curriculum do you enjoy? I've been looking at Mind Benders but don't know with which level to start. Thanks for your help!
  8. I can't access them through links I've found via old posts, and her wisdom has twice been suggested as reading material. Anybody save them? If so, can you pretty please share?!?
  9. *sigh* I own the following: Traditional Logic I from Memoria Press with DVDs Introductory Logic by Nance with DVDs Logic I Tools for Thinking by Birkett I am sitting here considering buying The Discovery of Deduction by CAP. I keep thinking the "grass is greener," I suppose. *sigh* again. I had planned to do Introductory Logic by Nance this year, but it just never got done. We did the first five lessons or so, but the DVDs were just. so. dull. Ds has done The Fallacy Detective, The Thinking Toolbox, and Art of Argument, though he probably remembers precious little
  10. I have a quote that looks pretty logical to me, and I wanted to see what the Hive thinks, as doing Logic for myself is still on the "to-do" list, and Monkey's years from it still. Here it is: "According to physiological law, all natural, normal functions of the body are achieved without peril or pain. Birth is a natural, normal physiological function for normal, healthy women, and their healthy babies. It can, therefore, be inferred that healthy women, carrying healthy babies, can safely birth without peril or pain." I realize that there are very few women who DO birth without pain, a
  11. Hi Everyone. I'm teaching an 8th grade logic course for our co-op next year. This year we've done a combination of Art of Argument and Fallacy Detective. We've made it fun and the kids have had a ball with it. They are really mastering informal logic and applying it everywhere. I've been looking for a follow up course for next year. I know that formal logic usually follows informal. I just don't want a theoretical course now that they are using and enjoying this material. Is there something that would teach formal logic and is applicable? Maybe combining with debate or speech?? Ha
  12. I've been reading old threads re the lack of a good secular logic curriculum. I desperately want to have my 11yo do logic next year, but I've bought and returned several programs that claim to be logic but are nothing more than far right-wing political theory. Birkett's _Logic I: Tools for Thinking_ is advertised as Christian, but this sample made me think it might be tolerable: OK, so it isn't how *I* would have written it, but I'm thinking that it might be usable, given the lack of alternatives. Also, the sample questions tend to be about yogurt and cats, not abortion and gu
  13. I would love some input/advice about whether or not we are doing enough for 5th grade history. Here's what a typical week looks like for my 5th grader: We read a chapter of SOTW aloud (since I have a 2nd grader, the 5th grader sits in while I read). We do the map work for the corresponding chapter in SOTW (this seems to take all of five minutes). I'd like to expand on this a bit, but not sure how. It seems like we just do it because we are supposed to, but we never go back to it. I don't think the boys are really remembering much in the map department. If there is a corresponding sect
  14. Does anyone have a favorite logic book/series for this age? I've looked at mind benders, logic safari, connections. What do you recommend for this age?
  15. my son is going to grow up on me anyway. He is 12 and halfway through his 7th grade year. We have never touched logic. I was planning on going through Fallacy Detective in 6th, Thinking Toolbox in 7th, and Art of Argument in 8th. But honestly, I haven't researched these much at all anyway. What are my best options from here?
  16. I've been reading up on Logic curricula, including searching the boards, but I didn't see this exact question. What do you consider the ideal Logic sequence? TWTM, Memoria Press & LCC, and some classical sites all have different recommendations for curricula, sequence, & ages. Also, how do the CAP products compare &/or replace the other options: Fallacy Detective, Thinking Toolbox, Introductory & Intermediate Logic, Traditional Logic? Please share your recommendations for Logic curricula & sequence (including grades for each). :bigear: Thanks!
  17. I am currently still using my second edition copy of the TWTM. I just recently decided that I need to go back to re-read the book in parts and bone up on sections that I had not read in depth the first time. One of these sections is on the Logic Stage. Now that my dd is in 5th grade it has occurred to me that she's moving beyond the grammar stage. :glare: On page 240 of the second edition, SWB recommends doing logic puzzles and "then moving on to study critical thinking directly." She goes on to state that the best logic puzzles they've found are in the Mind Benders books. She also recomme
  18. Tomorrow starts Week #3 of school for us. I feel like we are finally hitting a groove of sorts in most of our subjects ... except for my 5th grader's history. Here's a synopsis of what we are doing and the resources we are using: Mom reads a chapter or two out of SOTW Vol. 2 (2nd grader listens along). Mom asks questions listed in Activity Guide and alternates between children for answering the questions. We do the map work from the Activity Guide together (if there is a map for the chapter we are covering). Pages that correspond from the weekly SOTW chapter(s) are assigned to be read
  19. I chose Fallacy Detective and Thinking Toolbox for 8th grade. Actually we did Thinking Toolbox via co-op last year for 7th. I was going to finish up with both books this year. But, I do not like Fallacy Detective. It just doesn't fit. What are my options for 8th grade logic???
  20. What logic would you recommend for 8th grade? Dd did Fallacy Detective, Logic Spiders, Mind Benders B1/B2 cd last year in 7th. What would be appropriate for 8th - Thinking Toolbox, Traditional Logic? Introductory Logic? Art of Arguement?? help! I'd like something she can do independently, and we can discuss at the end of the week. Thanks so much for the advice...! :)
  21. What are your favorite workbooks/materials from The Critical Thinking Co. and for what age/grade? :lurk5: ETA: I'll be using Developing the Early Learner (books 3 & 4 already on hand) w/my K5'er this fall, but I'm also interested in Visual Perceptual Skill Building and Building Thinking Skills to use w/DEL or for use in the future.
  22. I know there have been threads about studying logic but I don't know how to find them. I am looking for recommendations for logic curriculum for my twins (9th grade). They haven't had any formal logic study. I am just looking for a curriculum that will give them some basic knowledge about logic and exercises for some skill building. I don't want anything heavy or difficult for them as I am just going to add this in with their grammar/composition/vocab studies. Just something for them to do in about 15 minutes a week? Thanks
  23. My 9th grader says he might be interested in learning logic. I tried to learn alongside my oldest two when they were 9th/8th grade but we petered out pretty quickly. But I've always wanted to include logic in our learning so now I'm up for a second chance! I actually took a semester of logic in college and remember zip, nada, nothing about it. And I remember I struggled through with barely a C for a grade. The program we tried before was from Memoria Press. Is that the best one? I am talking formal logic not informal fallacies. How about Classical Academic Press or are there others out
  24. I am trying to decide which one to use for my son. He is in the 9th grade. Did anyone find one set of videos more helpful and easier to watch than the other? What about the quality of the topics being covered? I have the MP Latina Christiana dvd's and am a little worried that the Logic ones will be of the same quality. Any input? Thanks, Holly
  25. Looking for ways to save money. Is TT necessary before starting Fallacy Detective?
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