SewLittleTime Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Has anyone put together a list of TOG books that are on Kindle? I'm specifically looking for LG, UG, and D for year 4. Would you mind please sharing it. You can PM if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I saw this question on one of the TOG Yahoo groups. The answer was that it would violate the TOG copyright so share such a list publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewLittleTime Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thanks. I guess I'll get busy doing the searching myself. I just thought maybe someone had made a list somewhere that might save me a little time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 No doubt others have done it. It is a shame that one has to re-do it because of legal technicalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveOaksAcademy Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 That is weird that it violates copyrights. I mean, if you can go to bookshelfcentral and get a list of all the books for the entire year, with or without owning the program, then why couldn't someone search out the books on kindle and share what they learn? I know we have used one this year that I purchased. We also access our public domain books that way as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 That is weird that it violates copyrights. I mean, if you can go to bookshelfcentral and get a list of all the books for the entire year, with or without owning the program, then why couldn't someone search out the books on kindle and share what they learn? I know we have used one this year that I purchased. We also access our public domain books that way as well. I had the same thought, and I even worked with intellectual property attorneys. But the answer is that it is what they call a "derivative work." In other words, it is their book list plus additional information. It doesn't matter that they have made their book list public or that the additional information is public. The reason an author/publisher is given the copyright is so the public can have access to the work without the author/publisher giving up the right to make money off that work however they choose. TOG wants to retain the right to not only add the e-book information to their lists, but also to be able to sell it if they so choose. And if they are not vigilant in defending their copyright, then the law may later say they have waived their rights. In theory, it makes sense. In real life, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewLittleTime Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Agreeing with both of you here. While I understand where each side is coming from, it is frustrating. My time is limited as it is. One of the reasons I buy curriculum is to help me, so I don't have to reinvent the wheel all the time. Sigh...reinventing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscopup Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Has anyone submitted the list to TOG to add to the Loom? Or do they not add it because they'd lose Bookshelf Central sales (I imagine most people purchase off Amazon anyway)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Has anyone submitted the list to TOG to add to the Loom? Or do they not add it because they'd lose Bookshelf Central sales (I imagine most people purchase off Amazon anyway)? If I remember correctly, they said that TOG were considering doing that at some point in the future, but they have no current plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewLittleTime Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Has anyone submitted the list to TOG to add to the Loom? Or do they not add it because they'd lose Bookshelf Central sales (I imagine most people purchase off Amazon anyway)? This would be nice to have it on the Loom. But I don't think it's in the works yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 This would be nice to have it on the Loom. But I don't think it's in the works yet. I think that this is a little bit of a problem for them considering their commitment to always update the program when books go out of print. Considering how many books keep coming and going and that new books may not always have an e-book option right away, perhaps it is just a little too much to keep such a list updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I find this a bit absurd also! Legal or not! It has been upsetting noticing a lot of books selected that are not top picks on Amazon. Many of the books are not popular selections, which makes it difficult, especially for those of us outside the US, to find them at the library. It was one of the reasons I decided to leave TOG for grade 5 and up. I think I will be doing a lot of tweaking when we come back to it in the future. For LG I was not prepared to spend $500 or $600 for history, just for the books. I think I will just be using TOG as a guide in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewLittleTime Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 Hi, Marie! Good to see you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Hi, Marie! Good to see you! Hi Sherry :seeya:! I did a quick, I am just curious, type of look for you for Year 4 D and out of 47 titles I only found about 20. I did not have time to go through the entire list (64 titles in total, if I remember correctly). When I had tried to do the same for LG and UG year 2, I was barely finding any so I just didn't bother :tongue_smilie:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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