southernm Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Ds who is almost 7 has never been dry at night. I was looking at a local ETC clinic but I can't figure out how they actually treat bedwetting. I should add that ds is a very deep sleeper which I know greatly contributes to his problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipper Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I don't know, but our daughter had a similar problem which was embarrassing at sleep-overs, etc. In our case, we put her on medication she took at night. After a month on the medication, we were able to stop the meds and she still remained fine at night. Good luck :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraciWA Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 What kind of medication? My almost 13 dd still has problems. I would like to help her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipper Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 We used desmopressin (sp?). They were small pills and she had no trouble with them. The only thing was that you aren't supposed to drink a lot after dinner (which we were already doing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernm Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 I just hate the thought of medicating him if I can avoid it, which why I'm interested in the ETC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallison25 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 have you looked into a urine alarm? ummmm malem i think is the name of one (or the company who makes one). You attach with a little clip to the child's underwear. When the tiniest drop of pee gets on the sensor it makes this terribly loud and annoying alarm that cannot be turned off until you take it off. they also make one that vibrates by their ear I have used these sucessfully when i was potty training older children with disabilites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernm Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 have you looked into a urine alarm? ummmm malem i think is the name of one (or the company who makes one). You attach with a little clip to the child's underwear. When the tiniest drop of pee gets on the sensor it makes this terribly loud and annoying alarm that cannot be turned off until you take it off. they also make one that vibrates by their ear I have used these sucessfully when i was potty training older children with disabilites. I don't think this is an option for us. My son deals with various phobias and has just branched out to sleeping alone. I'm afraid an alarm would scare him to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipper Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I googled the center you mentioned - you may want to do the same. :) Honestly it sounds a bit punitive and expensive. I hope you find something that works for you and your family. All the best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer in MI Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Does he sleep in a pullup or something similar? We ended up taking the pull up away from our oldest around 7. We put a waterproof sheet under him so that the sheets wouldn't be too wet. It took a couple weeks, but basically, we found that his wetting was a habit. I know that isn't true for a lot of people. But, my ds was wetting out of habit! Once he was out of the security of a "diaper," he stopped wetting after a couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernm Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 I googled the center you mentioned - you may want to do the same. :) Honestly it sounds a bit punitive and expensive. I hope you find something that works for you and your family. All the best... Yes, and they don't explain exactly what they do that is so effective. Does he sleep in a pullup or something similar? We ended up taking the pull up away from our oldest around 7. We put a waterproof sheet under him so that the sheets wouldn't be too wet. It took a couple weeks, but basically, we found that his wetting was a habit. I know that isn't true for a lot of people. But, my ds was wetting out of habit! Once he was out of the security of a "diaper," he stopped wetting after a couple weeks. Yes, he sleeps in a pull-up. He has gone without one for one night at randoms times because we ran out. He still wet in them. There have really been only a handful of times he's woken up dry. Is your son a deep sleeper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallison25 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I don't think this is an option for us. My son deals with various phobias and has just branched out to sleeping alone. I'm afraid an alarm would scare him to death. what if you could just set it to vibrate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 At my youngest dd's 8 year check up, she was very disappointed that the doctor didn't prescribe medication for her bedwetting. She really, really wanted to be dry at night. We ended up ordering a bedwetting alarm from Amazon, and she was dry at night within a week or so. It worked very fast because she was ready, but just needed a little help. This looks like the one we used: http://www.amazon.com/PottyMD-W103-Bedwetting-Alarm-Wet-Stop3/dp/B0013LRVWA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326336294&sr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela H in Texas Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) We used the ETC and I wish I had done it at 7! I will NEVER wait again. I don't care if they double their rates, we will use them if we have another bedwetter. I *hate* bedwetting threads. I think it is *fine* to try *everything;* but many suggestions (like restricting liquids or waking a kid up at 11pm) are counter-productive. Additionally, if you read, most people admit their kids are heavy sleepers. The ETC says upfront that THAT is the main reason for bedwetting. The majority of people who try this and that never find anything that works EXCEPT the supposed "growing out of it." Well, they may grow out of one part of the symptom (the actual wetting), but they still have the issue that caused it. (btw, on top of EVERY suggestion that has ever been given on this board, we went to the bedwetting clinic at Children's, tried medication, etc. I think that it was good to check everything out; but they were no help past that) Anyway, the treatment is FAR from punitive. Everything is documented for the counselor that is helping you; but no one fusses at anyone or anything. The treatment differs for each person. We know of parts of the program for some people my son didn't have. Maybe some people don't need to do some things my son did. But much of it is the same. They do encourage you to actually do a consult because they can help you learn what they will start with for your kid. That will be tweaked as you go. No one starts with everything the first week. That would be crazy and overwhelming. There were "challenges," exercises, etc. And alarm was one part of my son's program. I have never heard of someone using it and doing the parts we did with it though. I think that helped increase their success rate from what just alarm usage is. I actually thought about contacting them about my little boy. He doesn't wet the bed, but has some other issues. I really think that some of the stuff my son did may help, but I definitely would want the help of someone who has worked with such a young child to know exactly how, when, how often, etc to do it and exactly how. Not only that, but my 4yo is soooooooooooooooooo incredibly sensitive and has some anxiety issues that I think they may be able to help me to help him without triggering him. Anyway, hope that helps a little. Edited January 12, 2012 by 2J5M9K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernm Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 We used the ETC and I wish I had done it at 7! I will NEVER wait again. I don't care if they double their rates, we will use them if we have another bedwetter. I *hate* bedwetting threads. I think it is *fine* to try *everything;* but many suggestions (like restricting liquids or waking a kid up at 11pm) are counter-productive. Additionally, if you read, most people admit their kids are heavy sleepers. The ETC says upfront that THAT is the main reason for bedwetting. The majority of people who try this and that never find anything that works EXCEPT the supposed "growing out of it." Well, they may grow out of one part of the symptom (the actual wetting), but they still have the issue that caused it. (btw, on top of EVERY suggestion that has ever been given on this board, we went to the bedwetting clinic at Children's, tried medication, etc. I think that it was good to check everything out; but they were no help past that) Anyway, the treatment is FAR from punitive. Everything is documented for the counselor that is helping you; but no one fusses at anyone or anything. The treatment differs for each person. We know of parts of the program for some people my son didn't have. Maybe some people don't need to do some things my son did. But much of it is the same. They do encourage you to actually do a consult because they can help you learn what they will start with for your kid. That will be tweaked as you go. No one starts with everything the first week. That would be crazy and overwhelming. There were "challenges," exercises, etc. And alarm was one part of my son's program. I have never heard of someone using it and doing the parts we did with it though. I think that helped increase their success rate from what just alarm usage is. I actually thought about contacting them about my little boy. He doesn't wet the bed, but has some other issues. I really think that some of the stuff my son did may help, but I definitely would want the help of someone who has worked with such a young child to know exactly how, when, how often, etc to do it and exactly how. Not only that, but my 4yo is soooooooooooooooooo incredibly sensitive and has some anxiety issues that I think they may be able to help me to help him without triggering him. Anyway, hope that helps a little. Thanks! So do they counsel you on different ways to help? I'm still confused as to what the program actually does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 For some kids, it can be their normal not to be night dry until preteens or early teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyK Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 After allergy testing with a naturopath, we eliminated wheat from my son's diet and he went from always wet to always dry after about 6 weeks (other positive mood effects too). Recently we thought it was too much trouble when we visited relatives, so we let him go off the wagon -- irritability and bedwetting returned; gone after about 6 weeks off wheat. Just our experience, but it might be worth checking out allergies for a variety of reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela H in Texas Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Thanks! So do they counsel you on different ways to help? I'm still confused as to what the program actually does... I signed paperwork saying I wouldn't outline the program. But... Every other week, we sent in documentation of various things. This included a log of each night and what happened. It also included information from his challenges and exercises. The counselor got this information and then when we had the phone call, she would counsel us one what we needed to do differently (changing the reps on an exercise, adding a new one, changing an aspect of a challenge, making sure we were doing different things correctly, etc). If I had questions inbetween, I could always call. My son could also. They mostly spoke with me (though he was a teen), but also spoke with him. They were always positive and confident. Anything we needed, we received quickly. Basically, it is a multi-prong approach to give the child every aspect he'll need to get and stay dry. It addresses the sleep issues, bladder control issues, handling amount of urine issues, etc. Seriously, your child should be able to sleep through the night without having to go to the bathroom. However, if they do have to go to the bathroom, they should be able to wake up and do so. Period. If this isn't the case by 7 or 8 (the latest I'll ever wait again and that probably would only be if I didn't really think they were a heavy sleeper and they had the issue rarely or whatever)..if it isn't the case by 7 or 8, I'd get the help. They really are nice and helpful. The consultation doesn't cost much to check into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadassah Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) I just wanted to point out that age 7 might be a bit young for a treatment center. I might try an alarm, restricting fluids, talking to your child's primary care doctor, etc., but ETCs are usually for people with serious bedwetting issues, and IMHO bedwetting at age 7 isn't particularly unusual or necessitative (is that a word?) of an ETC. Three of my kids wet the bed until age 11. We tried everything with them, including ETC. Nothing worked. One day, they just stopped. Give it time. Kids almost always grow out of bedwetting eventually. Edited January 12, 2012 by Hadassah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ldanuloff Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Someone posted a question regarding The Enuresis Treatment Center and what we do. We can appreciate your expressed concerns, and we are here to offer a few points for you to consider in determining the best approach to treating your child’s bedwetting. After all, you are your child’s only advocate. We would encourage you to request references and check staff credentials from anybody offering a remedy. We at the Enuresis Treatment Center have been ending bedwetting for 36 years now, and with the Internet, we are able to effectively help people around the globe. We consider this our privilege, to have developed a program that gets to the source of a very difficult (complex) issue that can pose detrimental effects not only the bedwetter, but also the entire family. Over thirty years of research as well as results validates that the source is an inherited deep non-arousable sleep. We know this has an impact on the health and quality of life for a bedwetter. People can invest thousands of dollars in doctor visits, medications, pull-ups, alarm devices, homeopathics, etc., and yet their child or teen continues to suffer with the bedwetting condition. Findings from various pediatric sleep medicine specialists are finally recognizing the relationship between deep sleep and bedwetting. We recommend that you browse our website and view some of these studies. Often families from all over the world seek our help after exhausting all of these resources. More disconcerting is the fact that people are often told to wait for their child to outgrow bedwetting. This accounts for the reason that the average age in our program is 13, and why so many parents call us in a panic when their 18 year old is leaving to live in a college dormitory in one month. By then, there is nothing we can do. Our treatment protocol integrates all necessary steps to resolve the poor quality sleep. It takes time to assess all symptoms related to the problem, develop a course of action and work together to arrive at a successful conclusion: A quality, more arousable sleep pattern, dry mornings, and freedom from the secret. We also encourage you to call our office and speak to a director who can address preliminary questions for you. We welcome you to contact us directly and speak with a director. Or, if you live in the Michigan area, visit our clinic and meet our staff. We will be happy to answer questions. Warm Regards Lyle Danuloff, PhD 248-785-1199 http://www.nobedwetting.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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