Pomeranian had shots today

[Gamom3]

The shots were given about 8:45am and she is shaking at 8pm...is this normal??? I know the vet said she would be sore, but she has not been herself all day.

 

She is 3yrs old and weighs 5.7lbs. She had her distemper and rabies..the vet gave one in each upper leg.

 

Is there anything I can give her to make her feel better????

[Pam Wilhelm]

I don't know..... sounds unusual to me. Years and years ago I had a Cocker who went blind after a round of his puppy shots........ when I asked the vet he just shrugged and said that these sort of things happen with vacs sometimes.

 

I would call the vet in the morning and see what he says. How is the pup doing now?

[Gamom3]

I called the vet, they told me to give her benadryl and call them in 2hrs.

 

They said it is one of the side effects and that if the benadryl does not help her, they will see her!

 

 

I hate this feeling of helplessness...like when your kids are hurt/sick and you can't do anything to help ease the pain!!!

 

I let her out this morning and she had this look of horror on her face! She limped off to do her business and came back in laid down on her blanket and hasn't moved, until I gave her the medicine!!

[Gamom3]

I called the vet at 3:30 they told me to bring her back in.

They gave her some pain medicine and said that we should see a big difference in her by tonight. I sure hope so!!!

 

Poor thing she hasn't eaten all day and just stands there looking pitiful!

[Mamagistra]

According to a breeder friend, vaccination profiles will be changing. Over-vaccination has led to problems in many breeds. Here is some information she posted yesterday, FWIW:

 

 

Subject: Updated vaccine protocol

 

 

 

Permission to cross post from Dr. Dodds.

 

 

 

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Dr. W. Jean Dodd's vaccination protocol is now being adopted by ALL 27 North American veterinary schools. I highly recommend that you read this. Copy and save it to your files. Print it and pass it out at dog fairs, cat shows, kennel club meetings, dog parks, give a copy to your veterinarian and groomer, etc., etc.*

 

Get the word out.

 

 

 

VACCINATION NEWS FLASH

 

 

 

*I would like to make you aware that all 27 veterinary schools in North America are in the process of changing their protocols for vaccinating dogs and cats. Some of this information will present an ethical & economic challenge to vets, and there will be skeptics.

 

 

 

Some organizations have come up with a political compromise suggesting vaccinations every 3 years to appease those who fear loss of income vs. those concerned about potential side effects. Politics, traditions, or the doctor's economic well being should not be a factor in medical decision.

 

 

 

NEW PRINCIPLES OF IMMUNOLOGY

 

"Dogs and cats immune systems mature fully at 6 months. If a modified live virus vaccine is given after 6 months of age, it produces an immunity which is good for the life of the pet (i.e.: canine distemper, parvo, feline distemper). If another MLV vaccine is given a year later, the antibodies from the first vaccine neutralize the antigens of the second vaccine and there is little or no effect. The titer is not "boosted" nor are more memory cells induced." Not only are annual boosters for parvo and distemper unnecessary. They subject the pet to potential risks of allergic reactions and immune-mediated hemolytic anemia. "There is no scientific documentation to back up label claims for annual administration of MLV vaccines." Puppies receive antibodies through their mother’s milk. This natural protection can last 8-14weeks. Puppies & kittens should NOT be vaccinated at LESS than 8weeks. Maternal immunity will neutralize the vaccine and little protection (0-38%) will be produced. Vaccination at 6 weeks will, however, delay the timing of the first highly effective vaccine. Vaccinations given 2 weeks apart suppress rather than stimulate the immune system. A series of vaccinations is given starting at 8 weeks and given 3-4 weeks apart up to 16 weeks of age. Another vaccination given sometime after 6 months of age (usually at 1 year 4mo) will provide lifetime immunity.

 

 

 

CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DOGS

 

Distemper & Parvo * "According to Dr. Schultz, AVMA, 8-15-95, when a vaccinations series given at 2, 3 & 4 months and again at 1 year with a MLV, puppies and kitten program memory cells that survive for life, providing lifelong immunity." Dr. Carmichael at Cornell and Dr. Schultz have studies showing immunity against challenge at 2-10 years for canine distemper & 4 years for parvovirus. Studies for longer duration are pending. "There are no new strains of parvovirus as one mfg. would like to suggest. Parvovirus vaccination provides cross immunity for all types." Hepatitis (Adenovirus) is one of the agents known to be a cause of kennel cough. Only vaccines with CAV-2 should be used asCAV-1 vaccines carry the risk of "hepatitis blue-eye" reactions &

 

kidney damage.**Bordetella Parainfluenza: Commonly called "Kennel cough" Recommended only for those dogs boarded, groomed, taken to dog shows, or for any reason housed where exposed to a lot of dogs. The intranasal vaccine provides more complete and more rapid onset of immunity with less chance of reaction. Immunity requires 72 hours and does not protect from every cause of kennel cough. Immunity is of short duration (4 to 6 months).*

 

 

 

*RABIES There have been no reported cases of rabid dogs or cats in Harris, Montogomery or Ft. Bend Counties [Texas], there have been rabid skunks and bats so the potential exists. It is a killed vaccine and must be given by six months of age and then a 3 year vaccine given a year later.

 

 

 

*LYME disease is a tick born disease which can cause lameness, kidney failure and heart disease in dogs. Ticks can also transmit the disease to humans. The original Ft. Dodge killed bacteria has proven to be the most effective vaccine. Lyme disease prevention should emphasize early removal of ticks. Amitraz collars are more effective than Top Spot, as amitraz paralyzes the tick's mouthparts preventing transmission of disease.

 

 

 

**VACCINATIONS NOT RECOMMENDED**

 

Multiple components in vaccines compete with each other for the immune system and result in lesser immunity for each individual disease as well as increasing the risk of a reaction. Canine Corona Virus is only a disease of puppies. It is rare, self limiting (dogs get well in 3 days without treatment). Cornell & Texas A&M have only diagnosed one case each in the last 7 years. Corona virus does not cause disease in adult dogs.*

 

 

 

*Leptospirosis vaccine is a common cause of adverse reactions in dogs. Most of the clinical cases of lepto reported in dogs in the US are caused by serovaars (or types) grippotyphosa and bratsilvia. The vaccines contain different serovaars eanicola and ictohemorrhagica. Cross protection is not provided and protection is short lived. Lepto vaccine is immuno-suppressive to puppies less than 16 weeks.

 

 

 

I hope your pom's feeling better. :001_smile:

[astrid]

We ABSOLUTELY follow Dr. Dodd's vaccine protocols. We titer our dogs every year, and in eleven years of titering, none of our dogs have ever shown a drop in levels sufficient to re-vaccinate.

You only vaccinate your kid once, why do it every year for your pets?

 

Rabies is the exception--- usually mandated by law. (Every 3 years in CT.)

[Tammy]

Why did your dog receive a distemper vac?

[Mamagistra]

We ABSOLUTELY follow Dr. Dodd's vaccine protocols. We titer our dogs every year, and in eleven years of titering, none of our dogs have ever shown a drop in levels sufficient to re-vaccinate.

You only vaccinate your kid once, why do it every year for your pets?

 

Rabies is the exception--- usually mandated by law. (Every 3 years in CT.)

 

Good to know about the titers; that is what I'm planning to do from here on out. I am glad to know that the DVM schools will make the same recommendations.