AngelBee Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) Can I sub my MUS blocks for CRods in Miquin or MFW alphabet book? I don't want to confuse my kids as MUS is our main math program. Any pointers? Thanks. Edited January 27, 2011 by AngelBee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy7 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I don't think the MUS blocks would work with the MFW Alphabet book. I don't know about the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 I don't think the MUS blocks would work with the MFW Alphabet book. I don't know about the other one. Are they too big? Too small? Wish all companies would use the same colors. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Cuisinaire rods are 1-10 cm long. Do the MUS blocks use the same measurements? If so, then they'd work for some of Miquon. That said, the colours will be an issue as they won't be a match. (I can't recall how often colours of the rods are mentioned in Miquon, but I'm pretty sure it comes up sometimes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Cuisinaire rods are 1-10 cm long. Do the MUS blocks use the same measurements? If so, then they'd work for some of Miquon. That said, the colours will be an issue as they won't be a match. (I can't recall how often colours of the rods are mentioned in Miquon, but I'm pretty sure it comes up sometimes.) I don't think any of the colors are ever shown, so I figured I could just sub the writing for matching color to block. He can't read yet anyway! :lol: I will measure them. I know he calls them "cubic units" but I can't remember if they measure out to be 1-10cms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamamaloca Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 MUS blocks aren't the right size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 MUS blocks aren't the right size. Crappy! :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Do you think it will confuse him to have 2 different colors for each "number"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 The single unit is close, but it gets worse as they get bigger. :( Ugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 K....could I get these and paint them to match MUS's colors? http://www.unbeatablesale.com/edre5124.html?mr:referralID=3eede9e2-29ac-11e0-af68-001b2166becc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamamaloca Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If I recall correctly, Miquon sometimes refers to the rods by their color, so painting them wouldn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 If I recall correctly, Miquon sometimes refers to the rods by their color, so painting them wouldn't work. Yeah, I will change the workbooks for that part. He can't read yet, so I could fix that before he gets there. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypamama Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If they're a little different in size, I think they will still work for some of the Miquon activities, a lot of them, actually. I assume they're still proportional, right -- the MUS 10-rod will still be the same as 10 of the 1-rods, the 8-rod is twice as long as the 4-rod, etc.? If that's the case, then they should work for many of the activities. Maybe the ones that use measurement will be a little trickier, but you can still use them to introduce area and such, just being aware that it won't be 4 cm, but 4 units, y'know? We have all of the Miquon books, but we haven't gotten through the latter ones yet; I can check and see though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 If they're a little different in size, I think they will still work for some of the Miquon activities, a lot of them, actually. I assume they're still proportional, right -- the MUS 10-rod will still be the same as 10 of the 1-rods, the 8-rod is twice as long as the 4-rod, etc.? If that's the case, then they should work for many of the activities. Maybe the ones that use measurement will be a little trickier, but you can still use them to introduce area and such, just being aware that it won't be 4 cm, but 4 units, y'know? We have all of the Miquon books, but we haven't gotten through the latter ones yet; I can check and see though. True. That is one way I could do it too. I am paging through Miquon book 1 right now. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Orange book only has 12 pages that use rods on worksheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 They are different sizes. If you wanted to you could remake the Miquon pages by hand to work with MUS blocks. The Miquon Lab Sheets are really low-tech (and basically hand drawn in any case). It wouldn't be that hard. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 They are different sizes. If you wanted to you could remake the Miquon pages by hand to work with MUS blocks. The Miquon Lab Sheets are really low-tech (and basically hand drawn in any case). It wouldn't be that hard. Bill True. That may be easier than painting a second set of rods. Cheaper too! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 True. That may be easier than painting a second set of rods. Cheaper too! :) I actually made a lot of home-made lab pages when we started with Miquon, at least as many as actual lab-sheets from the books. My son seemed to enjoy the handmade ones at least as well (if not more). Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 My other plan is to make card stock rods that are the right size. ??? Have to decide what is easier being I am due Sat, on bedrest, and wanted him to start today. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishmommy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I purchased my set of rods, used at a homeschooling store for about $8. I would never consider painting anything. To me that was so cheap, it would be worth it to not have anything to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 I purchased my set of rods, used at a homeschooling store for about $8. I would never consider painting anything. To me that was so cheap, it would be worth it to not have anything to make. I am just concerned about the colors being different than the MUS blocks which he is already familiar with. Maybe it wouldn't be an issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishmommy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 http://www.the-book-cover.com/agoracart55/agora.cgi?cart_id=4968639.29153&p_id=160227&xm=on These would be about $12 for shipping and everything. I don't know how much they run normally, but it seems like a good deal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishmommy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 My little girlie knew what the colors meant before I did. I think she had it down by lesson 2 (of just playing with them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 My little girlie knew what the colors meant before I did. I think she had it down by lesson 2 (of just playing with them). So u think it would confuse him because my MUS blocks use different colors for each size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishmommy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I think the colors are important. I can't remember if it mentions it in the Miquon book, but I know some of the CR resources do, also some of the computer games use the colors of the rods. If you were going with Miquon, I'd just want the right rods, maybe that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 I think the colors are important. I can't remember if it mentions it in the Miquon book, but I know some of the CR resources do, also some of the computer games use the colors of the rods. If you were going with Miquon, I'd just want the right rods, maybe that's just me. I am supplimenting with Miquin. MUS is our main curriculum. Thank you all for your help. I will brainstorm. On bedrest, so I don't have much else to do! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I think sometimes we make things more complex than the kidlets do; I wouldn't be surprised if he just adapts to the different colours for different programs without a blink of an eye. Maybe just give it a shot and see how he does? You'll know pretty quickly if it confuses him, and you can make a plan for how to deal with it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So u think it would confuse him because my MUS blocks use different colors for each size? My younger 2 used both MUS and Miquon before we switched to Singapore PM. They didn't have any trouble with the 2 sets of color/number correspondence. On the rare occasions I use manipulatives with them now, we use whichever set of blocks is missing fewer of the numbers we need. (MUS for 10's and 100's, Cuisenaire rods for making quart/pint/gallon/cup conversions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 My younger 2 used both MUS and Miquon before we switched to Singapore PM. They didn't have any trouble with the 2 sets of color/number correspondence. On the rare occasions I use manipulatives with them now, we use whichever set of blocks is missing fewer of the numbers we need. (MUS for 10's and 100's, Cuisenaire rods for making quart/pint/gallon/cup conversions). Good to know. Thanks :) Maybe "I" am the one who is confused! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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