Pretty in Pink Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 My chemistry professor gave the class the following equation and asked us to isolate ∆T: (SH) = q/(m) x (∆T) The way the equation was written (it was typed just like this, horizontally, exactly as I have typed it here), I could not tell whether he meant: SH = (q/m)(∆T), or SH = q/[m(∆T)]. After class I told him that I found the given equation confusing, and asked him why there were no brackets to show that ∆T was included in the denominator of the fraction. He said they were not necessary, and then asked me if I had taken college algebra yet...? I did, actually, and earned a high A last semester. I have no idea why he put parenthesis around SH in the original equation either? So, what am I missing here? The denominator needs brackets, no? If not, can someone explain why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 You lost me with the first sentence. I came very close to failing high school chemistry. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but I'm sure some of the brilliant WTMers can help you! BTW, what are you going to school for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 :confused: Without brackets, you just do the operations in order from left to right, right? So I would have interpreted it the same way you did. So, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but he did NOT need brackets around SH or around *individual* terms like m, he DID need brackets around the entire denominator, so maybe he's the one who needs to take a college algebra class???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 You're right, it should be in the numerator, given standard order of operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty in Pink Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) BTW, what are you going to school for? Nakia, I am applying to the nursing program at the end of this semester. My ultimate goal is probably CNM. Edited August 18, 2010 by Pretty in Pink typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 you probably mean the equation for SH being specific heat? Since the amount of heat, Q, can be found from: Q= m c deltaT (with c commonly used as symbol for the specific heat), you would solve for the temperature difference: delta T= Q/(m* specific heat) If stuff like this happens again, I suggest that you try to do a dimensional analysis to see which version of the equation is correct: if you put the units for all the quantities in, the units on the left and right side of the equation must be the same. specific heat is Joule per kilogram and per degree, so J/(kg oC) must equal J/(kg oC) on the right hand side which tells you that delta T was in the denominator in your original equation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I think the brackets around SH are to show that SH is one quantity. Not S times H. The equation isn't 100% clear to me, but I would have assumed correctly. I don't think he needed the x in the denominator, though, he could have just written q/(m)(delta T). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Nakia, I am applying to the nursing program at the end of this semester. My ultimate goal is probably CNM. Good for you! I am a nurse, but I only have an ADN. Chemistry is exactly what stops me from getting my BSN. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I think the brackets around SH are to show that SH is one quantity. Not S times H. Yes, of course, specific heat. I wasn't thinking about what the equation was *about*. :lol: Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali in OR Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Agreeing that he needed to bracket the denominator if delta T was supposed to be in the denominator. As he wrote it, you would divide q/m and then multiply by delta T. And his comment was pretty snotty, not to mention just wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty in Pink Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 This was our first day of Chem 1, so none of us knew what the equation stood for when he gave it to us. He just gave us a page of formulas and asked us to isolate variables to demonstrate our grasp of mathematic operations. Thanks for all of the responses. And yes, SH was specific heat, so the parenthesis does make sense there, (SH). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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