newlifemom Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Ds has been running a temp for 2 days. Up to 103.4, but for him that is not that high. He's my spiker. He seems pretty happy, but complains of a sore throat and is developing a very wet, croupy cough. Dh, feels lousy (which is saying a lot b/c he is never sick) No fever, but he thinks he has one. If anything, he is almost a little cool to the touch. His throat hurts and he has general achiness. I have felt better, but am functional. My throat hurts a little, but not enough to say, "I'm sick", KWIM? Is this it? Do we have it? Should I be concerned. I am a tutor on Wed and all my kids are in a coop class. The rest of them seem fine. Dh started on Sat, (now he tells me). I really don't know what to make of this and if I should be overly worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlifemom Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Bump. Anyone, anyone, Bueller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Well, I'm a super worrier by nature so, yes, I'd be wondering the same thing. Ds21 woke up with a sore throat and stuffy nose and I started worrying, which probably is ridiculous. A croupy cough, though - well, that would push my worrying up a notch or two. I'd call the doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistyJ Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 A girl, 11, had the same symptoms and yes, had H1N1. It went into her chest very quickly, and lasted about a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMA Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) :grouphug: If you are concerned, see the doctor. The only way to know if you have H1N1 is to be tested. I wouldn't go to co-op regardless of what you have. It doesn't have to be H1N1 to be contagious. There are lots of viruses going around and they are not all of the H1N1 variety. We just got back from the dr. this morning. My oldest has wheezy and croupy cough from a bad cold and a high fever but does not have pneumonia (had a chest xray). However, it is still contagious, according to the doctor. I have to keep him away from my mother with COPD so she doesn't get pneumonia. Edited October 20, 2009 by LMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cillakat Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Assume H1N1....but I wouldn't *worry* b/c that's not going to improve the situation, help anyone get better faster or otherwise change the outcome of the illness. Instead, take action. There is so so much you can do to improve immune reaction to viruses, shorten the course of it and decrease the possibility of severe complications. Following is a little document I put together about a months ago. NTBCAMA. I am not a medical professional, just a lay person with a significant knowledge of and interest in health, science and research: http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AV3S7fNjwg33ZHp0bWN3cV83NnhxZGd3a2N3&hl=en The majority of flulike illnesses currently presenting are H1N1. It's possible that 50% of cases are presenting without a fever and very likely many more. This makes meaningless, the recommendations to "stay home from school or work until fever free for 24 hours". Children are unknowingly being sent to school with H1N1; adults with H1N1 will continue to go to work not realizing that they are spreading the flu. It's wonderful that most people are reporting being sick for 1.5-2 days. Yay! For those at risk for respiratory complications though (including our pregnant friends and family members, those with breathing difficulties including asthma, lung disease, obesity, diabetes) it doesn't matter that 'most' are sick for 1-2 days. For them, this is not a typical flu. Please practice social distancing for the recommended amount of time if you have symptoms. Please keep your child home if that child has symptoms. Influenza, including H1N1 is contagious from 1 day prior to onset of symptoms until 7-10 days after onset. The following is not to be construed as medical advice nor is it intended to take the place of your own research your own responsibility for your health information from your own health care providers common sense What can you do to prevent or treat the flu? Consider: •Anti-Virals if you fall under the CDC recommendations (you have been exposed and are considered high risk) Keep in mind that there is a 50-90% false negtive rate on the rapid flu tests. Yes, you read that right. Just b/c you have a negative rapid flu test absolutely positively does not mean you do not have H1N1. Lack of a fever absolutely positively does not mean you are H1N1 free. Effective treatment: •Anti-Viral Medication started within 24h (less helpful but still helpful if started later....though rare drug resistant cases have emerged) •High Dose Vitamin D3 therapy aka Stoss Therapy. (reduces cytokines) Stoss Therapy is 1,000 IU D per one lb body weight per day FOR THREE DAYS, then back to normal dosing: 1,000 IU per 25 lbs body weight. Stoss therapy is not appropriate for those with kidney disease. Take sufficient calcium and magnesium while taking vitamin D. Likely Helpful adjuncts to effective treatment - will reduce and/or moderate cytokines or act as ACE inhibitors (ACE inhibitors dampen and inflammation): •Aspirin, Adults only; never children or adolescents (reduces cytokines). •Green tea (ACE inhibitor, reduces cytokines). Consider drinking daily and/or gargling with it. •High dose vitamin C therapy to bowel tolerance. Use cheap ascorbic acid unless you personally need buffered - avoid time released for this usage. Effective Prevention: •Optimal blood levels of D3 (reduce cytokines) •50-80 ng/mL is optimal; some say 50-70 ng/mL, some say 55-80 ng/mL - it depends on who's writing and when they wrote it. Anything less than 50 ng/mL=substrate deficiency which is a Very Bad Thing. Our 50-80 ng/mL translates to 150-200 nmoL in any other place in the world Moderate levels are correlated, by some data, with increased cytokine activity (20-40 ng/mL). We don't want moderate levels or even 'normal' levels. We want optimal levels in the middle of the 'reference range'. •Remember that because of problems with Quest's test, any D result from them should be divided by 1.3 to get an accurate number. •Optimal vitamin D levels are your very best defense against influenza, some researchers posit that it may be as or more effective than a vaccine. •Green tea (ACE inhibitor, reduces cytokines). Drink it or gargle. •Probiotics. Take daily. May be helpful adjuncts to effective treatment and/or prevention in addition to above measures: •Black tea (ACE inhibitor, reduces cytokines) •Quercetin (possible ACE inhibitor, reduces cytokines) •Pomegranate (ACE inhibitor) •Proanthocyandin containig foods, supplements (ACE inhibitors): grapeseed extract, pinebark extract (pycnogenol) •Turmeric (reduces cytokines). 1/4 tsp powder can be placed on tongue and swallowed with water . •Black pepper (reduces cytokines) •Raw crushed garlic (reduces cytokines). For easy dosing, mix with tsp raw honey. •Coconut oil (reduces cytokines) •Echinacea (increases some cytokine activity but overwhelmingly reduces cytokine activity) • Oscillococinum .. .as directed on package Assess carefully: •Elderberry "Sambucol" or similar (known to increase cytokines - I am avoiding) •Astragalus (reduces activity of some cytokines, increases activity of other cytokines). I am avoiding. •Olive oil (may increase cytokines). I will continue to use as needed but will use coconut oil for cooking/baking. •Fish oil (may increase cytokines). I will continue to take significant amounts. •Chocolate (ACE inhibitor but increases cytokines). I will use moderately. And by moderately, I might mean 'daily' or 'as needed':) Cannel on preventing and treating H1N1: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/h1n1-flu-and-vitamin-d.shtml Randomized, placebo controlled trial shows D3 prevents and treats colds and flu: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17352842 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Sorry Pam:-) It'll get better fast, I hope:-) Carrie:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlifemom Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 So it is 12:15 and I am on the couch under the comforter sporting a low grade fever. I guess I have answered my own question.:glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 So it is 12:15 and I am on the couch under the comforter sporting a low grade fever. I guess I have answered my own question.:glare: :grouphug::grouphug: Get well soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenpatty Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 :grouphug:We are there with you. All six of my children have various symptoms, with the youngest child having fairly high fevers - 102-103. The rest have coughs, sore throats, headaches, diarrhea... I feel achy, tired and have a low grade fever. Dh has been sick for a week with respiratory stuff, too. I'm guessing this is H1N1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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