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From what I'm seeing, independent businesses are free to allow people to vote with their feet/dollars.
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-gov-ron-desantis-bans-182922772.html
"The order requires businesses to comply if they intend to seek state grants and contracts."
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Thank you for posting this. Do you mind telling us how high her heart rate was and how long it lasted.
For me, I'm signed up for the J&J this coming week, but I'm also curious since that's the one I think my college-aged ds will be willing to take.
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So, historically, how long has it usually taken for adverse reactions to show up in vaccines? People worrying out loud about long-term issues that could arise from mRNA have me feeling jumpy.
None of us have any autoimmune issues, and feeling poorly for a few days (if it even comes to that) is a worthwhile trade off for me, but the threat of long-term issues is scary.
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Research released by CDC today about real-world effectiveness of a single dose of Pfizer and Moderna:
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I'm praying.
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27 minutes ago, Pam in CT said:
I can see that. Although otoh if the school is sure they want to mandate, it'd be irritating if they announced after deposits were in, or later in the summer. There's no timing that would NOT act as fuel for folks determined to find fuel, KWIM?
You're probably right. Sadly.
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29 minutes ago, Pam in CT said:
Re college mandates before vaccines come out of EUA
There's no knowing for sure how it would play out, but I personally doubt a court would uphold an exemption-free mandate under EUA. Even though college is a choice/privilege etc.
I agree, and I appreciate that Rutgers is making this decision early on (before that May 1st decision date?), but I hate it that anyone is mandating it now. I think it just adds fuel to the anti-vaccine fire for some folks.
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10 minutes ago, kbutton said:
As tragic as a post-vaccine death is, I would be leery of classifying any death as vaccine-related without an autopsy. Would I be nervous if I knew someone that died immediately after vaccination? Yes, but I would not feel comfortable saying it's vaccine-related without more information.
Help me understand this. I've seen so many people on this board dismiss the idea that someone died with Covid, not from Covid. A person who had congestive heart failure/diabetes/cancer, etc., or who was just elderly and acquired Covid and died. These same people seem to take the opposite tack on people who died following a vaccine (Well, he probably died as a result of... whatever).
Btw, I know it can be difficult to read tone. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I really don't understand the difference, though it's probably obvious to everyone else. 🙃
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1 hour ago, Ordinary Shoes said:
Other posters have already brought up the EUA element but many colleges require vaccination with no exemptions. Public schools have the same requirements but most states allow personal exemptions. The difference between college and public schools being that children are required to attend school but not college. Going to college is a choice.
This is the requirement for Arizona State University.
I understand the required vaccine policy, but I think it's wrong to require students to take a vaccine that isn't yet FDA approved. Yes, college is optional, but their mandate would apply to students who are only one or two semesters from graduation, leaving them with little choice but to take the vaccine even if they don't want to take that risk.
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5 hours ago, Pam in CT said:
I don't think courts will (or should, for that matter) sustain actual mandates while the vaccine is still under EUA... even where there are broad exemptions for medical and religious claims for exemptions as the Rutgers press release makes clear there will be.
But I also believe the vaccines will be out of EUA by September, when Rutgers' plan would go into effect.
Maybe, but I don't see how they can require it before the vaccines are out of EUA. If that doesn't happen until the fall or later, aren't they are requiring students to be part of the drug trial?
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29 minutes ago, Halftime Hope said:
I have been following this story. I've read that most Rutgers students are fine with the requirement, but I don't know that it would stand up to a court challenge.
This was on my ds' school's website (Texas A&M):
As the different versions of the vaccine are currently approved only under a Food and Drug Administration Emergency Use Authorization, they currently cannot be required of employees or students.
Maybe this is a state law issue. A&M is urging everyone to get the vaccine, and will provide it on campus as soon as they can get doses. TX opens all adult tiers tomorrow.
We'll see. The word "currently" looms large.
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26 minutes ago, Ellie said:
I'm not planning to, but I am not immovable. Here's what I want in a vaccine:
- Actual immunity. Chicken pox and small pox and MMR actually immunize, so that the chances of getting the diseases are infinitesimal. Right now, the vaccines just sort of keep you from being rilly, rilly sick if you do get it. And if it's going to need to be an annual vaccine, like the flu vaccine (which I also don't get), then TPTB should be open about it. They are not (possibly because they just don't know, which does not give me confidence).
- Because why would I get a vaccine that might not keep me from getting the disease at all when there are already documented reports of people dying after receiving the vaccine. Not anaphylactic, but just going to sleep and dying.
- Not made from aborted fetal cells.
Evidently, the Chicken Pox, shingles, and rubella vaccines (among others) also used fetal cells in their development.
From the article:
(Dr. Amesh Adalja, a Senior Scholar at Johns Hopkins who treats infectious disease, critical care and emergency patients and also works on pandemic policy.)
Dr. Adalja says, while the COVID-19 vaccine is getting a lot of attention right now, fetal cell lines are used to make many vaccines.
“The Chicken Pox vaccine, the shingles vaccine, the hepatitis A vaccine, the rubella vaccine, one of the rabies vaccines, all used fetal cells. So, this is nothing new,” Adalja said.
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3 hours ago, City Mouse said:
She already uses the disposable wipes which work on the areas she can reach, but she can reach a very limited area. She does have some in-home help. The lady was specifically hired to help her with such tasks, but mom won’t let her. The closest she gets is allowing her helper to occasionally wash her feet.
Regarding the in-home help, I really meant help for your dad - and not necessarily home health - to ease his load, since you said you are worried that he's doing too much. But it may be that the burden he's carrying involves providing hands-on care for her, so in-home help wouldn't be much help at all.
You've probably already thought of all this. It's just not easy, and I'm sorry.
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18 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:
I feel sad seeing this, I didn’t realise she was so old. The mouse and the motorcycle was one of my favourite books as a kid.
In her first memoir, she wrote about an early memory of hearing all the church bells in her town ringing at one time. She said that, years later, she asked her mother what had happened that day. Her mother told her it was the end of the First World War.
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28 minutes ago, Selkie said:
I love all her books, and her memoirs are two of my most favorite books ever.
Yes, I loved reading both A Girl from Yamhill and My Own Two Feet. It was fun to see how much of her own life ended up in her books.
My favorite of her fictional books was The Luckiest Girl.
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8 minutes ago, Jaybee said:
Something I see mentioned on so many of these type threads is home health workers. That situation is not always so easy. We live far away, but when my ILs started needing 24 hr. help, BILs had so much trouble finding and keeping people. They needed three shifts of dependable, kind, firm, honest people. Nobody in the family was able to take FIL and MIL into their own homes due to a variety of circumstances (work, space, grandchildren's care, ability to lift, lack of handicap accessibility, etc.). Even then, in-home help would have been required. Oh, the drama (with the help). Stealing small items, griping about the other worker's work/schedules/etc., smoking, lack of care, meanness, bringing boyfriends or their children, and so on. This was in a small town where home care companies were non-existent. It was a mess, and was a constant stressor to the local BILs, who were always having to run over to the house to handle issues--while they had their own full-time jobs to do. Theoretically, it sounds like a good idea, and sometimes can be the perfect solution. But finding and keeping good workers can be challenging.
You make an excellent point. Even in urban areas with lots of agencies, employee turnover is high. The agencies will charge maybe $30-ish per hour, often with a four hour minimum, but the workers themselves usually don't make much. I have heard of people who have had better success finding home-help through word of mouth and paying those workers themselves more money. It's just not easy to find reliable people to help at home, but if an elder absolutely refuses to leave the house, it's one (often less than ideal) solution.
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14 minutes ago, mlktwins said:
Not to derail either, but is there a specific brand you recommend? DH and sis sister are doing sponge baths for their parents now (in the last week and a half) as things are quite the mess (won't go into details). But...would these be a better alternative than sponge baths? I did not know these existed!
Here's a specific brand I had heard of:
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21 minutes ago, City Mouse said:
After reading Janeway’s comments, I am wondering what level of care would be needed to consider it appropriate for a person to move or be moved to assisted living or nursing home care. (I know the quality of such places can vary widely).
My parents are currently in a house that they is provided by my sister. They have moved many times the past 50 years, so there is no “home” place. My mom is having and causing issues because she is refusing appropriate care to come to her in her home. (Example: I am the only one that she will allow to help her bathe and I live 12+ hours away. Washing only every 3-6 months is not okay). She puts demands on my dad that are physically and mentally wearing him down. He will have a much better and probably longer life if they move to assisted living, but she does not eat to go (he would move today if she would agree). At some point she will be “forced” to move, but the big question is when.
@City Mouse, I don't want to derail this thread, but has anyone tried those disposable bath cloths with your mom? Could she use them herself? They are usually rinse-free and can be a good alternative in this situation (which is unfortunately common). I've known several people whose bath-resistant parents have been willing to use them, particularly if the cloths are warmed slightly.
Also, can your parents afford some in-home help -- not to help your mom but to ease the load on your dad?
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47 minutes ago, teachermom2834 said:
I feel like that article is going to be enough to cause a shortage. 😩
Me too. Do we import much tp?
ETA I see. It's raw materials and shipping crates they're worried about.
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Yes. Bible church. We were online only from March 15th through the end of August. Then we began meeting outdoors. (We've had a Youtube option for years, though it's much fancier now. 😁)
We've been masked and outdoors all winter apart from two rainy Sundays and Valentine's Day, which was the first day of the crazy freeze in TX. The elders serve drive-by communion for those who want it.
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If the party will take place after dark, what about showing an outdoor movie? Make a movie screen with a king-sized sheet attached to a fence, or to a pole supported by two ladders. You can borrow/rent an LCD projector, or buy a pocket projector (about $175, - give it to the graduate later as a gift. They are pretty useful.).
Serve popcorn, boxed candy (the kind we used to buy at the movie theater - Walmart has them), sno-cones from a rented machine, ice cream in individual cups, whatever, and set up canvas chairs - borrow them from friends. Or rent folding chairs.
If you have a pool, show water movies: Jaws(!), Nemo, Lilo and Stitch (set in HI), Water Horse, etc. Let guests float around while watching.
If not, what about nostalgic movies from the grad's childhood, old movies, something fast and adventurous?
I think a buffet is fine with masked servers. You can also buy those partitioned food containers and load them up, giving everyone the same thing. Amazon has them, and they also have plastic, individual cupcake holders.
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1 minute ago, katilac said:
Not personally? I mean, not anyone, right? The word "white" has not historically been used to exclude anyone from various public facilities in this country.
The question was, "Has the word "white" historically been used to exclude you from various public facilities in this country?" (emphasis mine) I was answering the question, not the broader question of all of the wrongs ever committed against "non-white" people.
I just don't like being called "white" or "Caucasian", because it seems strange to me. It's not likely to change, but it bothers me.
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2 minutes ago, kand said:
Has the word “white” historically been used to exclude you from various public facilities in this country?
Not personally. Of course not. I still find being called "white" ridiculous.
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7 hours ago, Scarlett said:
Why is it offensive to say a colored person but not offensive to say 'people of color'?
Why isn't it offensive to call people "white"? I'm not white. I don't know anyone who is. Copy machine paper is white.
I'm also not Caucasian. My ancestors aren't from the Caucasus Mountain area (near the Caspian Sea).
But I'm called Caucasian, or White, non-Hispanic.
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J&J Covid Vaccine has a symptom of high heart rate in young people
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@Bootsie How long did your symptoms last? If not too long, that might be encouraging - a good immune response(?)!
... and thank you for sharing!