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My son was just selected to be staff at camp this summer. We weren't sure he'd get selected because he's only 15 but he's ecstatic to be going to camp for the entire summer. Now if we can just get him to finish his Eagle project before he leaves....
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It is my understanding that for Texas state schools if you get a merit award you automatically get in-state tuition. I think for next year the award must be at least $4,000. Too bad all the Texas schools my daughter is looking at are private.
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This is my favorite cold brew. The one mentioned above is a close second. Unfortunately for me I can't get either locally. :-(
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$6000! I'm scared. We have USAA. It was $150/month to insure my straight A daughter this year. That is on a 14yo car. We won't be adding another car so I'm hoping the car to driver ratio will help.I am not sure what we pay, but we have USAA and they just quoted us $6000/year for our soon to be 16 year old son. And that is with good student discount and drivers ed.
I always wondered why lots of boys his age aren't driving (or why their parents aren't pushing them to drive). Now I know why.
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We are a family of five. Three fair skinned boys. I typically plan a bottle per day. We use the spray sunscreen so I'm not sure how that would compare to lotion.
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He has auditory processing issues (diagnosed). If I really need things done I try to give him one task at a time two, only if they are related and then check back in with me for the next task. He usually hates this but it's the only way things get done in a timely manner. If it's just things I need done within a few days I write him a list and hope he doesn't lose the list. But there are certain thinks he'd rather fight you on all day than just do (like cleaning up after himself in the kitchen).I don't know. I'm remembering how one of my ds's was. I could tell my other kids to go do X, Y, and Z and they'd go do it (usually). But with this particular son, he would seem to be listening and comprehending that he was supposed to do X, Y, and Z. However, by the time he got partly done with X, he would have totally forgotten what Y and Z involved. So what I eventually figured out was that I had to give this ds a 'shorthand' version of the list. So instead of telling him to take out the trash and lock the shops and sweep the porch, I would say, "trash, locks, porch". And I found he could remember it that way. It was all the excess verbiage that was tripping him up, apparently. And he's still kind of like this even as as an adult now. Only what I think is happening in his brain is that he's constantly thinking/processing/planning/writing ... to the point that there's not much 'room' left for the mundane, daily stuff.
So I would give him the shorthand list and make him repeat it back to me while looking me in the eye. Then, I'd give him a few seconds for it to sink in and for him to ask any questions. And then he'd go do it right then. And that seemed to work, most of the time.
I discovered this once when he hadn't done some things I'd told him to do. As I questioned him, I realized he'd probably forgotten most of what I'd said before he'd even gotten out the door -- because his brain was far, far away thinking about his many plans.
But I can't tell whether that's what's going on with your ds. His brain certainly seems to be working overtime what with all the arguing and everything he's doing.
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you have explained this perfectly. This is my kid. I've always felt he was emotionally fragile. I don't make him do extra curricular so, unless he wants to. I don't make him go socialize, unless he wants to. He really needs a lot of down time. I guess where we struggle is figuring out what to fix first. I have only been able to fix two behaviors that I can think of. One took 3 years. The other took 2. There are a few things he needs to do that would help him immensely but he refuses any sort of help. Even if I help guide him to make the list or plan himself he never follows through and gets upset when you remind him or try to redirect him to the plan. And he doesn't take responsibility for the results. Although he is slowly starting to take responsibility. Very slowly.IMO what may help is medication, cognitive behavioral therapy, and parental training or therapy.
Schoolwork accommodations may be needed. at the very least he probably needs a high level of support and scaffolding to meet deadlines. And yes, he will be oppositional. The child is basically in fight or flight mode most of the time. Nights, when others are sleeping are the best times because he's alone and the sensory input is less. Computers allow him to focus on something mundane while his brain redirects itself.
A child who is overwhelmed by his brain wiring and needs to reset each day is very fragile. In my experience, you cannot fix everything at once. The child just doesn't have the emotional reserve for it. This is especially true if he's already used his reserve avoiding problems during the day. With my kid, we choose one issue. I approach it cautiously. I explain why the situation is a problem- in detail. I discuss the steps we'll take to correct the problem and then we s-l-o-w-l-y begin implementing the change. Once that issue is resolved, we move to the next. Moving from one issue to the next or expecting the child to correct the situation by just obeying does not work. It is a step by step progression until we achieve our joint goal. I have to be his teammate and coach. It takes encouragement, communication, and patience. The minute the child in this situation feels like he can't succeed or that you are angry or impatient, he will shut down. All the punishments I read about on this forum would destroy my kids. It just doesn't work with a child who is wired different and trying to get it to work is cruel.
Yes, my house is chaotic. Yes, we are frequently late. Yes, there are places we don't go and things we don't do. But hoping my child will fit into the box that everyone expects children to doesn't work. It just destroys his self-esteem. I conform my lifestyle to the real needs of my child, I don't expect them to be miraculously changed to conform to my preferences. (And I definitely don't send them to boot camp!)
For example, he was having a hard time remembering what he needed to bring to school and then his sport after school. So we sat down and made a list together. We wrote it on his whiteboard where he could see it. He agreed that he needed to get everything on the list ready the night before. He never did unless he was reminded and if it wasn't done before then things were forgotten daily. Like his sneakers, or uniform for his game etc.
I don't know how to help him when he refuses help.
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but how do you make "be respectful" a measurable, rule with boundaries and no loopholes. This is how we and up with a long list of rules. We tell him to be on time and then each time he is late he has a reason, or says he didn't understand. We try to clarify and he calls it a new rule and then he tries to manipulate that and so on.The three rules are a great idea. I would add one guideline. Be respectful. Clearly he does this at school and scouts, so he can do it in your house. Making people late, causing inconvenience, constant arguing is disrespectful. If he values being thought of as a respectful young man in his activities (which it sounds like he does), then you can use that to help at home. Why was he late to school? A note to the teacher that he was not respectful of his sister's time. Late to scouts? A note to the scoutmaster that he was not respectful of your time.
Also, I have a house full of possible lawyers and an actual lawyer dh. They do not argue all the time. It is rude to keep going and nitpick. Frankly, it is bad habit that can be stopped.
After evaluations, you will have some better ideas. But don't allow rudeness to fester in your home. It will wreck sibling relationships.
. He is not consuming corn, I'm almost positive. In the beginning we had issues with hidden corn but not anymore. On the rare occasion we buy something pre add it's from a very short list of things and we always recheck the label. Most of what he eats is made from scratch, at home.Corn is in a lot of things people don't realize... I wonder if it is some form of ingredient in something he does consume he is not aware of. I know of someone allergic to corn who couldn't even have marshmallows because the corn syrup in them made her sick.
When he has corn, in any amount, the changes are very noticeable. There are certain behaviors that are very noticeable. He can even tell when he's eaten something because he will say he feels unstable.
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. Also, I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if the young man in question was not eating food he shouldn't be at school and that is contributing to much of his issues and sleep interruption.
I am 100% certain he is not eating the food outside of home. He is terrified of accidentally eating it (corn). It makes him very emotional and mentally unstable and he knows it. He tells people he feels different, unstable when he eats it. He won't even test it to see if it still affects him.
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Snipping just these two comments from you, OP.
He only does this at home. That implies to me that it is NOT how he's wired, it is how he's learned to behave in your home ONLY. If it was how he is wired, he would behave this way in many environments. He does it in your home because it works for him in some way. I'm glad you are getting him evaluated, hopefully you can get some good advice.
Remember, you can't change someone's behavior without changing your own in some way - either how you approach the situation, or how you respond to it. If you want him to change, you need to plan to change as well.
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I get what you are saying but I don't necessarily agree that it's totally a learned behavior. According to his dr he is expending all his energy when he is out following rules and trying to fit into societies expectations that by the time he gets home he's mentally exhausted. So, because home is "safe", and he's mentally exhausted, he is more his natural self at home. So, I do believe it's how he's wired. Are there things we can do to help, I'm sure there are. Problem is it's a moving target. What works one day, sets him off the next. Nothing we have tried improves things for more than a couple days.
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Highly doubt that he learned that in toddlerhood. It wasn't until the last couple of years I've tried loosening up my punishments. Dh has always said I'm too strict. My daughter doesn't break rules. When I ask her why she says "because I know you mean it". This is just how he is wired. He has always pushed the rules and always fought the punishments/outcomes.It sounds to me like somewhere (in toddlerhood?) he learned that rules are optional, boundaries can be pushed, and arguing works to help him get his way, because someone gave in to him a few too many times or didn't follow through on logical consequences.
For this particular problem: Put Qustodio on all the devices and set the time restrictions.
For other problems: Only a few rules (choose your battles), and make sure they are very clearly defined.
No arguments when a rule is broken. Punishment is swift, severe, and dispassionate.
He is not a criminal, nor do I believe he is headed that way. He never gets in trouble outside of the home. Never. I've never even had a teacher say he was disrespectful. Scout parents call me all the time to thank me for all the help he's given their child and for being so patient. This problem is just at home. I honestly think If he can manage to make it thru college he will be pretty successful, (after he's fired from 4-5 jobs first.)+1 Exactly. Because of his age, I suggest looking into the idea of sending him to a Military School, if they would take someone with his behavioral problems. If he has *any* criminal background (vandalism, theft, assault, robbery, etc.) then I would suggest looking into a "boot camp" for juvenile criminals. This is potentially a VERY dangerous situation for the OP and her family. Also, he is probably headed for terrible things in the future. He needs to change and he needs to change now.
I think he sounds like a normal teenager. He's like a toddler shouting no. He's exploring his autonomy. Some children are more compliant and easy-going but you get the pleasure of one who's not!
I'm not perfect, so my "what to do" list is idealistic and what I'd do in a perfect world if I had perfect patience and self control. Not what I necessarily always do with my own teenager who is very similar to yours.
- Don't take it personally. Try to rejoice that he's going to become a strong minded person.
- Set your rules, then enforce the rules with no rancor. You say no phone in bed and he has a phone in bed? Say, sorry, son. The phone is mine for a while. Take it, give it back at the determined time, rinse and repeat. Expect to rinse and repeat. Remember when they kept getting into the dog food when they were little? They were persistent little guys....
-Trust in time and the benefit of maturity. He's 14, not a little monster, and no matter what you do, he will probably turn out fine. Your goal is to survive with your relationship intact. The parenting research supports that there's little you can do or not do that will drastically ruin him.
-Spend special time with him. He's more likely to follow your rules if he is feeling warm fuzzies towards you.
- Listen to him. Maybe he needs less rules. He's 14, not 7. Perhaps some things can be negotiable now. Maybe you know that he will make bad choices if given the freedom, but maybe the natural consequences are something you can live with and you can let him learn the hard way.
It's hard. :grouphug:
The friend who suggested testing him for OD loves him so much she wants to adopt him. If I sent him to military school (as has been suggested upthread) she would go break him out and hide him at her house.I read this and was surprised, happy and puzzled. Wonderful that he behaves well in School and in Scouts. That surprised me and that is good and wonderful.
However, the other post, where you wrote that your family was terrified of him, when he went to a Psychologist, sometime ago, is extremely dangerous and is terrifying. He is running the show in your family. That needs to stop or he needs to live somewhere else, before tragedy strikes your family.
That close friends suggested you have him tested for Oppositional Disorder would indicate to me that they have seen problems, either when they were in your home or elsewhere. Or, that you have told him things that lead them to suggest that to you.
I would give him the benefit of the doubt, until you can have him evaluated, thoroughly, by a Board Certified Psychiatrist. If he has Physical Medical issues (which you wrote that your doctor said is not the case) those should, if possible, be treated. A Psychiatrist is an M.D. who can evaluate both his Physical Health and his Mental Health. Also, there might be some Physical issue that is causing his Mental Health problems.
I did take the phone. He tried to argue and I clatified the rule, said it wasn't open for discussion and left the room (with the phone). He lost all electronics at the end of the year for over 2 months. Didn't change his behavior, we just spent 2 months listening to why we were being unfair.
I know this is how he's wired. He's not inherently a horrible child who's going to end up in prison. I have no worry there. I'm just trying to figure out how to deal with him so that there isn't always tension in the house. If I have no rules my entire house is trashed and in chaos and I get frustrated. If I have rules he fights every single one of them, even the "rules" that are there to help him. Today his sister is upset with him. I won't go into details but he was late (as usual) and I told her to leave. I told him to take his time because he had to wait for me to get his brother up and get dressed and we'd get there when I was ready. When he realized she was leaving he ran out the door without most of his things and got in the car. But then he dilly dallied getting out of the car and still made her later than she wanted to be. There's more to it but that's the gist.
If he would:
1. Be on time without help
2. Cleanup after himself in public areas
3. Stay on top of his schoolwork
Then I wouldn't need all the other little rules. He asks for the rules and then fights them. Other than no computers in you room my other children don't really have rules. Well, they have the same rules, they just use common sense so I don't have to continually fight them about things like being on time. Doing homework. They aren't good about picking up after themselves but when I say hey can you clean your mess in the kitchen they do it. They don't try to spend an hour arguing about it first and they don't name me ask 4-5 times. He just makes everything so much haedrr than it needs to be. We tell him daily, just do what you are supposed to do and then we won't be telling you what to do all the time.
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. Away from us he never gets in trouble. His teachers, scout leaders etc all say how sweet and respectful he is. The boys in his class are very rude and disrespectful. He notices it a lot and it bothers him. The school has realized he is one of the good ones and has him do all the new student visits and such.If it isn't important to them--they don't learn it. We shield our children from a lot of things. Other things matter to us (clean rooms, non-surly attitudes) and not them (at least right now).
If our sons are similar in personality, changing does happen, but it happens over years and years. (Yeah, I know, not necessarily what you want to hear. There are no easy answers here.)
Are we talking about someone who has no respect for any rules, or are we talking about someone who is generally good with rules but questions his parents and their procedural/scheduling/livingtogether rules? There is a difference.
From earlier in the thread I'm seeing a young man more like my own. Good with societal and school rules ('the big rules') and terrible with house rules and procedures ('the little rules'). They may even be a bit rigid about 'big' rules (always pointing out the rules to siblings, known to be a 'good' kid) but constantly question the 'little' rules and their parents. They just don't understand what the big deal is. It's not important to them personally so they may fight it tooth and nail as little plots to keep them in-line.
I think part of this is the EF problems. A lot of the procedural rules are not natural to them. It's much harder work than it is for us. As they hit adolescence you also get a mix of shame (can't admit to themselves the flaws or it overwhelms them so they stuff it down even when faced by logic) and independence (they can't tell me what to do).
Like I said, there is a difference. I can only speak to the second situation, not to someone with an Oppositional Disorder. BTW, if you're working on specific behaviors it usually helps to use a behavioral psych. That would mean you would be attending together. Standard counselors can help these kids with dealing with their emotions but that's not always the main problem. If their frustrations stem from a physical component, they have to deal with that or nothing changes. That may be why you didn't see any improvement.
That being said, I have had close friends ask if I've had him tested for Oppositional Disorder.
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He is being evaluated in March. Good. Excellent. Also take him to his primary care provider. Speak to them alone and talk about your concerns. There may very well be a medical cause for this behavior. Chronic illness is insidious. You don't see it coming. It just becomes the way things are. Some or all of this could be resolved by eliminating a food, or taking a supplement or medication. Probably not, but definitely rule it out.
He is 14. You are almost done raising him. One way or another, this is going to be over soon. Take some deep breaths. You are doing everything you can, mama. You just have to hold on.
I have talked to his Dr. There is nothing medically wrong with him. I had him tested for food allergies 3 years ago an there were actually several issues. We have avoided those and, while it may not seem like it, things improved a lot.
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Not to be harsh, but it sounds like the problem is that you as parents refuse to enforce your own boundaries because it inconveniences you. You can lock up the phones and make an exception for the rare time your DD has to get up at 5am. It doesn't sound like horrible EF issues to me (and we're a family where everyone has ADHD), it sounds like he consistently pushes your boundaries because more often than not, when he pushes he gets everything he wants.
Even completely normal teen boys without EF issues have trouble not using electronics and games at inappropriate hours. If he has no respect for the fact you all need sleep, you change the rule so that the very next time he's using electronics at night, he loses ALL screen time for a week. The second time, two weeks.
As an alternative, plan out in advance that starting next week, every time he cannot get up on time, he has to go to bed 90 minutes earlier. When a 14 year old has to go to bed at 8 pm as if they are 8 years old, they tend to get a little more fastidious with getting out of bed on time.
IDK... maybe I misunderstand. Perhaps you actually meant this to be a whiney, JAWM (just agree with me) post where you complain about the kid who's driving you crazy and don't want answers. But it seemed like you did, and you're ignoring this advice for the same reason your son ignores your rules - you don't want to.
Wow, just wow. I'm not even sure how to respond to your judgemental post.
I had a response typed, but I'm not even going to try. Go ahead and think I'm a whiney, lazy, parent. I don't really care.
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he already towers over me at almost 6ft. I am waiting until his evaluations are done. I am hoping they will give us some insight that will help guide us to the appropriate help because the last time I tried to get help the rest of the family was terrified. For right now I'm just trying to get by with as little stress to the rest of the family.Okay, I misread your OP. I did not understand the age of this young person. Somehow I thought he was nine. This young person is no longer a child, but a very powerful young teen. That is very different. A 14yo having melt downs and making everyone wait for him in the car is getting scary. I understand that you are worried about seeing a pro, and he may well be smarter than most pros. You need more help than I was thinking. Mediation and extra security measures for the electronics are not good enough now. This is not a kid who doesn't like rules. This is a teen running the show. How much he means it, you don't know. He is going to get bigger for the next five years at least. You need more help than the board can give you now. As we know from other threads, help is HARD to get. Start getting help now. I am not trying to be cold, but this is getting more worrisome.
I don't want to paint him as a bad child. When he's not in a mood he's a very sweet boy. I just never know which boy is going to show up. One minute he is sweet & helpful the next minute he's yelling as us stomping away and hitting things (always things, never people). I do not think that is his intent is to cause chaos to the family. I really think there is some sort of issue that is causing these issues. I just have no clue how to fix them. And it seems that his moods last longer and longer. Days/weeks/etc.
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After much research this weekend I purchased this business simulation from https://simplycharlottemason.com/store/your-business-math-pet-store-edition/. We started it today and my son loved it. He begged me to let him do more. We will see if it lasts but it's a start. I figure we will just work as long as he is willing each day.
I went thru Singapore and looked at the topics we gave left in 3b and found some hands on activities to teach them. Hopefully he will enjoy those and we can just use the Singapore workbook to make sure he understands the concept after we've played.
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Thank you.No words. I'm just sending you hugs and a warm cup of coffee. (With or without Baileys. Your call ;) )
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he plans on going to college. not sure what that will look like yet. Maybe CC.I know that your previous experience with him going to a Psychologist did not improve his behavior. Because he is almost of legal age I would be very worried. Are there any men that he respects? Does he have any role models? What does he plan to do after his 18. Th birthday?
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he had appointments for testing in March. I've been trying for almost 4 years to get him tested but my husband insisted I was overreacting.You mentioned a psychologist, but has he had actual evaluations? Looking for ADD, executive function issues, ASD, other stuff?
If there are specific issues going on, you need to know. You're not likely to get where you want to go without a map.
. I've tried to have him scrub in exchange for arguing. Didn't go so well. We do have him repeat the rule both when it's made and every time he doesn't follow it. That's when he starts debating that he didn't actually break it or he misunderstood etc. I try to just tell him I'm not discussing it and either what the punishment is or dad will be up with his punishment and leave. (we are trying to have dh lay down all the punishments.). We also have him write it down and sign it so he can't tell us later we didn't tell him.I haven't read all the responses. My BP was rising as I read the original post. That behavior sends me over the edge
every. single. time.
I would hand him a toothbrush and tell him to start scrubbing the bathroom(s) any time he tried to argue with you about rules. You would have clean bathrooms and that will make up for the incessant arguing. Almost.
You might also have him repeat what you stated the rule is. Let's face it, he knows what the rule is and that he's breaking the rule. He also knows there's a good chance you and your DH's will be divided in your approach to this behavior or, better yet, give up entirely.
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I wouldn't mind all of this nearly as much if he learned from his mistakes but he doesn't. It's the same $&@! Problems over and over again.My oldest (18) is very much like this.
What works best for us is to always keep everything very calm. Don't take it personally.
son has always had the greatest belief in himself. He learns things from his own experience. He doesn't accept teaching. Because of this I try to allow reasonable negotiation whenever possible. Encourage thinking about the issue beforehand and making a proposal. Be open to some changes. Be honest about your apprehensions and ask him for solutions. Ask him for appropriate consequences when an agreement is broken.
Best of luck with the Executive Function issues. My son has that as well. I've tried many things and at this point all I can do is give him information and hope when he has the right experience or motivation he'll know where to access the information I give him now.
im afraid to try another Psychologist. Last time we sent him to one he became so much worse. It got to the point I was actually afraid to leave my youngest alone with him for any amount of time. He was 11ish so youngest was 5.You are correct IMO that you have a serious problem on your hands. Life is full of rules one must follow. Prisons are full of people who did not follow the rule (the law). The majority of aircraft accidents are caused by pilots who did not follow the rules they were taught. Employers have rules their employees must follow. Those are not things your DC can ignore now or when he is an adult. I don't know how you can change him. Possibly a Child Psychologist with a lot of experience in Behavioral problems.
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I do think for some kids the EF issues tie into control. I don't personally know your son, but his sense of independence is very strong. I agree that yelling helps nothing, and probably upsets your other children even though they are not getting yelled at. Again, he'd get to the car if that's where his electronics are. He may not be able to follow through three steps ahead to the fact that getting to school on time leads to good grades. But I bet he can get to the car to get his phone.
I will take you up on that bet. He doesn't really care about his phone. Daughter yes, son no. Putting the phone in the car won't hurry him along because he knows whenever he manages to get there it will be there. The phone/computer aren't what makes him late. You know the book "The Pokey Little Puppy"? That's my son, only his book would be titled "The Pokey Little Puppy walks thru Molasses."
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But being the voice of God actually makes the issue worse and makes us later. Anytime voices are raised, even slightly, he goes into melt down mode. By calmly telling him we are waiting in the car he actually hustles more. No clue why but he does.I can't actually understand how this goes down. I personally would not go sit in the car because I would be sitting there with my ears steaming while he was inside doing God-knows-what. I would stand there being The Voice of God until he moved his butt out the door. It's like - when they kids were little and Joanne (of these boards) had the "Get Off Your Butt" rule - when you tell the kid to do something, if they don't start moving, get off your own butt and make the action happen. Really, that alone was probably the best bit of advice on parenting I ever got, because my kids experienced that my words meant something. It wasn't my opinion that they should put their shoes on and clean up the Legos, KWIM, ot was happening come hell or high water; happy about it or not.
I follow the same policy, I guess, even with my 17yo, even though it has been a long time since I physically marched him to the door for anything. (I couldn't anyway, since he outweighs me by far and is four inches taller than me.:)) But I would still be standing there burning a hole in the side of his head with my eyeballs and generally making his life very annoying until he hauls his butt out the door.
But I don't know...maybe your situation calls for something far different than mine did. My son has weak EF, too, but you may have more going on than poor time management skills and distractability.
I can tell him we are leaving in 5 minutes and to start getting ready but he doesn't take action until we are all in the car waiting on him. Maybe it's a control thing but I don't think so. Even if it is I'd rather be sitting in the car reading a book than yelling at him. It accomplishes the same goal and my blood pressure is lower.
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It's nice that you praise him when he gets to the car on time, but really, this should just be a fact. It sounds like you've adopted his own excuse because honestly, I just would not brook that nonsense day after day. I have said, "Get in the car right this minute! And then I stand there, breathing fire with keys in my hand. :D
If he's ready to go and it's time to go, I would propel his turd wagon out the door.
We've tried the get your arse in the car right now. It doesn't work. It ends up with people in tears and we are still late probably later because we have to deal with the meltdown and now upset too. When it's time to leave we tell him (actually 10 minutes before) and we go wait in the car. Then when he gets in we check the clock.
Now someone is going to say just leave him and if it's an optional activity we have done that but most of the time when he leaves the house it's mandatory school, dr appointment etc. so leaving him isn't an option. We are trying to lessen the yelling so we are trying to gently nudge him. I truely believe this is, for the most part, an EF issue not a control/defiance issue.
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You do not need the same rules for each child. Or rather, you can have a rule with flexible application; the rule is that electronics are not to be used overnight. If your dd is responsible with electronics hers can be accessible. Since your son has proven irresponsibility a higher level rule kicks in where his devices must be locked up.
I agree I shouldn't need the same rules but by having the same rules for both of the older kids that give him one less thing he can argue with us about.
Low-Carb, Dairy-Free, Egg-Free breakfast ideas
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Im allergic to eggs, dairy & gluten. My breakfast usually consists of leftovers from dinner or i will make a big batch of homemade sausage for the week. You could also do protien smoothies. If you do more veggies and less fruit it can be low carb.