Mecca and Medina for starters. I've been to a Buddhist stronghold in the jungles of Vietnam run by monks that are very well disciplined in protection. No Christians are allowed past a certain point. I believe my original point was that there are people as wholly immersed in their belief systems as Christians are in theirs. They are as adamant about keeping their faith as Christians are at pushing theirs at them. To the statement that the Christian word of God will reach all, in my opinion, is not a logistical possibility.

Jumping is good! :001_smile: Spycar is correct there has been a Christian presence in Iran since before it was Iran and it was way more than 500. When I lived in Saudi Arabia and traveled to Iran in the late 70's the population was estimated to be between 150-300,000 mostly of Armenian decent. CBN (a Christian news source) states that the current Christian population in Iran at 1/2 of 1 percent. With a population of 67 mil. that puts it around 330,000 or so. But I still contend there will be places that Christianity will never be preached.

While I strongly agree with Momof7, I was a bit on the anxious side for my dd too. I had ordered all my 1st grade curriculum by the time she was 4 and it was the logical next step. We used History Odyssey Ancients level 1. There were so many fun suggestions on the reading list and so many really fun activities that we couldn't help ourselves. But we were slow and took a year and 1/2 year round to get through it. My daughter's favorite book that I read to her at that age was Wind in the Willows...still is. I can remember her thinking that the language in it wasn't her cup of tea at first, too. :001_rolleyes:

That's all it boils down to in WA too. We sign a Declaration of Intent with the school district every year. We don't have to verify it with anyone. It would be cool if all states were that easy. We've often thought of leaving the state but HS laws have turned us off, namely TN.

I guess that was me? Oh boy, I debated with myself about responding because this is going so OT. But I will defend my logic. My original question was in response to another post stating that God will come back only when all people have had the chance to hear and accept his word. My logic questions how will all people have that chance when there is a baby being born every so many seconds which stands to reason that every few seconds or maybe even minutes another person is coming to whatever that magical age of spiritual responsibility is. I am very aware of advancing communications as well as Christian missionaries. Unfortunately most 3rd world countries do not have Wi-Fi internet and missionaries (and I do not in any way minimize their achievements) fall short of their conversions all the time. Often time natives are grateful for the aide and education (even if sometimes bias) but they refuse to accept anything but the belief system passed on to them for millennia or more (sound familiar?). Again I am not in any way, shape or form discrediting the aide, but we are talking about the spreading of the word of God. How much of the word do they have to get before their “chance†expires? A two minute spew while getting a shot of Penicillin? Who decides? A man, a human man? BTW, I do speak from firsthand experience. I have lived all over the world and in many 3rd world nations. Speaking of the world, there are places in the world where no missionaries will ever be allowed to go (fact), much less let anyone preach the word of God. What about those poor souls? Is there no excuse for those children? Here’s one more simple reason why I do not think everyone will be given the chance to hear your word. On these boards alone I’ve read so many fundamental Christians who say they will not teach their children certain elements of science, they say it is a belief system in itself. I doubt these same people would allow their children to hear the preaching’s of Allah or Confucius, or maybe some might but qualify it with “that is not the right wayâ€. So doesn’t it stand to reason that other fundamental religions would feel the same way about their beliefs? You stated that Christians should be prepared to be persecuted for your faith. But are you not exactly doing that to other people’s culture and faith by saying your way is the only way? I can appreciate your fervency, I can even admire it, but I can also agree to disagree. If you consider me a sinner then just rest assured that Jesus died for my sins already and be done with it. :grouphug:

I would say the Kingfisher would take you up through 6th grade or so, it is pretty meaty and somethings are a bit over a 1st grade level. You also may not like it because it bills itself as a Science Encyclopedia and does not adapt to a creation standpoint. I did find an interesting web site that has some other sources http://www.answersincreation.org/homebook.htm but I'm not sure how it will relate to R.E.A.L. Cheers,

:iagree: http://forvo.com/word/principia/

I have to throw a shout out to Washington State. Eligibility is uber-easy: 1 - be supervised by a certificated teacher for one contact hour per week, OR... 2 - have earned 45 college-level credit hours or 1 year of college, OR... 3 -be deemed sufficiently qualified to homeschool by the superintendent of the school district in which you reside, OR...4 - have completed a course in home-based instruction at a post-secondary institution or vocational-technical school. Then: 1 - to file annually a signed "Declaration of Intent" to homeschool for any children between 8 and 18 2 - You are also required to have your child either tested or assessed annually But absolutely none of it is verified or kept on file anywhere except the "Declaration of Intent." Our Governor just declared a WA Homeschooling Week. This was her proclamation: Wheras, homeschooling offers families the opportunity for their children to receive an education that couples high standards with a sound environment based on individual family desires; and Whereas, the Washington State Legislature has recognized homeschooling as a legitimate and viable education alternative; and Whereas, historically, homeschooling was one of the only means of education for many early Americans; and Whereas, many noteable Americans, including George Washington, Thomas Edison, Sandra Day O'Connor, Abraham Lincoln, Booker T. Washington, and Woodrow Wilson, were primarily educated at home; and Whereas, Washington State recognizes homeschoolers for their continued commitment to the diversity and quality of education in our state; Now, therefore, I, Christine O. Gregoire, Governor of the states of Washington, do hereby proclaim June 14-20, 2009, as Homeschool Week in Washington State and I urge all citizens to join me in this special observance. oops, larger than I intended :001_huh:

I personally think the Usborne is invaluable. We've used it for Grammar Ancients, Middle, and now Early Modern. I do not use CHOTW, but use most of STOW. I can't help you with biblical tie ins because we teach secular but there are of course many historical biblical references. I do go heavier with the recommend literature and supplement with Discovery Education/United Streaming Clips. We do HO 3 times a week and dedicate at least 2 hours to each block. I rarely find myself following the suggested weekly schedule although I believe they were written with a 36-38 week school year in mind. I also try to keep up on our note booking timeline so it doesn't sit till the end like suggested. Some things hold our interest longer and we do more activities, others we do the minimum a bit quicker. You could either elaborate on the lessons to fill in time or shorten your study times, but I'm fairly confident that there will be more than enough material to keep you going for 36 weeks.

We really like the Latin for Children series with the DVDs and CDs. I had ecclesiastical pronunciation in school and I wanted dd to learn classical (they offer both in the same program), the chants on the DVD and CDs are great. I also think it would be good if you didn't have any previous Latin, I had forgotten a lot.

Do any of you remember that racehorse named Hoof Hearted. I thought I was going to die when I heard a clip of a fasted paced play by play with that horse in it. :lol:

:lol: A few weeks ago my dd was hanging out in the barn while dh was working and he banged his hand on something hard and let the sh** word fly. Later that day she was running without looking and fell and dh overheard her muttering "oh, feces!"

Yes, I think she was trying to cover all her bases. :001_smile:

Here's an interesting link of past obviously failed predictions http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm

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:iagree: I guess I should have clarified it is too strong for most things. Like another posted stated "I hate prejudice" that holds true for me too. Also it was only a no-no to say it until dd fully understood the implications of the meaning, and never towards a person or a group persons.

We like Mind Benders. I don't schedule it, they are just always lying around for weekends and for those "I'm bored" moments. It becomes a family thing to make up our own.

Uh-oh! Sorry! :grouphug:

I like this! :rofl: I'll have to remember that one the next time I'm in traffic.

True, true! But Merriam- Websters gives this definition: 1 a: intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b:extreme dislike or antipathy. That just seems so strong, esp. when referring to tomatoes. :ack2:

Ha! That's funny! I actually worked with some one that plans on being at Machu Picchu on that date. I say more "power to ya", live and let live. :coolgleamA:

I sort of threw it out there for a joke. But surely the ancient Mayan's put quite a bit of worth in it.

We used the Kingfisher Science Encyclopedia.

We used VIE (Voyages in English 2006 version). I know WTM didn't like the writing but I think they were reviewing earlier versions. It is published by Loyola Press a Catholic Company, but I teach secular and there are NO religious undertones at all. We are now in VIE 3, dd is a very independent worker and she loves this program. http://www.loyolapress.com/voyages-in-english-resources.htm

Pamela, I am sorry, I truly did not mean to offend. I honestly was curious on how your first quote could happen logistically. That's all. Please don't feel the need to shout back. All is good.