Thread in question in case you're interested: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/468105-is-holzman-white-washing-slavery-in-sonlight-core-100/page-1 I used Sonlight at one point and though I had dropped it in our homeschool by that point, I still recommended to others. John Holzmann's interactions with me and others on that thread changed that. I now actively discourage people I know from using it.

I use the TOG schedule and discussions as my base and throw out a lot and add in a lot. History is what my homeschool is based around. For logic stage, I've added Human Odyssey, American Odyssey, my state public school State History book, OUP ancient and medieval series, art and music history books, and then lots of books on specific topics throughout the year.

Yes, I don't recall why I had written off LfC, but I know I had back when I looked at it for my oldest. He did well with his progression I mentioned, but he's overall a better student than his younger brother, so I don't want to start the second one on the same thing even earlier than my older did them. I think they'll be good for him later, I just don't feel like he's ready at this point, but I want to honor his enthusiasm since this is literally the only school subject he's enthusiastic about.

My second child is finishing SSL2 and second grade soon and really wants to continue with Latin. He has done really well with SSL. He memorized vocabulary and the chants much better than his older brother did when he was older. Big brother started with GSWL in 4th and then moved on to BBLL. My 2nd grader is enthusiastic about Latin right now and I'm nervous that doing GSWL won't be as fun for him and he'll lose that love he has for it. I was looking at Minimus because a friend said she'd let me borrow it and he saw it and asked for it. I'm nervous about the whole-to-parts after reading old threads. But, then again, I'm not looking for mastery here; the only reason I started him in Latin in the first place was because he wanted to be like his brother. Also, he is a reluctant and very average student overall, with the exceptions being grammar and Latin, which he really enjoys. So, having said all that, where would you go from here? Could I do Minimus next year and let him just have fun with it and then move on to GSWL in 4th?

My boys are both like this. But they both have ADHD. They *know* the material and the process, but they are messy, lose focus or make simple errors because they're distracted. Math can take hours if left to their own devices sometimes. If I sit next to them and "guide," they're fine. And by guide, I don't mean give any instruction, I mean guide to keep them on task. Literally, it's like this: "So what's the first thing that you need to do? Okay, now what? What's next? ... Now make sure you can read that; I can't tell if that's a 9 or a 4..." That can be the difference between 10 minutes to complete an assignment and two hours. I no longer do this with my oldest, and he is much better than he was, but there are still always a few silly errors every day.

Language Arts: Literary Lessons from Lord of the Rings Classical Academic Press: Writing and Rhetoric 7-8 Vocabulary from Latin and Greek Roots 7 Grammar for the WTM Purple Math Lial, probably Prealgebra. He's doing BCM this year and I think he needs another year before Algebra. Science: Elemental Science Chemistry for the Logic Stage History: History is my thing. We do a combo of TOG (*heavily* edited; year 3 next year), Human Odyssey, American Odyssey, and the 8th grade state history book for our state along with other random stuff I pull in. Other: Lively Latin Book 2, Part 2 Critical Thinking Company Building Thinking Skills Level 3 Critical Thinking Company Mind Benders Book 6 Artistic Pursuits Grades 7-8 Book 1 Boy Scouts Track Science Olympiad

As a homeschooler, how did you fulfill the Second Class requirement to participate in a program about the dangers of drugs and alcohol? He's the only homeschooler in his troop (who isn't already Eagle), so the troop won't be doing this since the rest of the boys get it in school.

Thank you so much! What great resources. I actually showed it to him tonight after I had time to sit down and look at it and he got really excited. I think we'll go for it!

Lori, Can I ask your opinion on using this for a 7th grader? He'd be turning 13 a couple months into the school year and he's been reading Tolkien for four years already. Recently, all he's been reading is a dozen or so Tolkien books in rotation. This past year, he's become really lazy with his school work, rushing through to get done so he can move on to what he wants to do. This intrigues me as a "hook" to at least get him interested in this subject.

Thanks so much! Although I have a couple of history degrees, this is not my area of expertise, but I knew where to turn to for help! I'm excited that he's interested at all since he's never shown the slightest interest in history. But he really wanted more than the very cursory pass-through that he got.

He's a very advanced reader, definitely liberal leaning, not sensitive. I don't know *how* in-depth he's interested in going at the moment, so I figured I'd look for good overviews and then further resources as he's interested. Thank you! These look great. I ordered Born in Blood and Fire last night, so glad to hear a recommendation for that.

Thank you Lanny.

My advanced reader 12yo would like to read a history specifically dedicated to Latin America. Does anyone here have a resource they'd recommend?

I just realized that BBLL2 does not have tests. Has anyone made tests to use with Lively Latin 2?

DH and MIL have more than 96% of testers. And that's all I have to say about that!

Newer immigrants are tricky! My dad's paternal grandparents were from Ukraine and his maternal grandfather's parents were German immigrants. So, he has far, far fewer matches compared to my mom or my husband's parents. And he has about 2% Ashkenazi Jewish (which was unexpected), so the Jewish matches crowd out his other matches with falsely high relatedness since it's an endogomous community. Oh, I forgot to mention that I also found birth parents for two adoptees working off of our shared matches. One turned out to be my MIL's second cousin and one my FIL's third cousin.

Thank you! That's exactly what I needed! I didn't get the notice that I'd had a reply and just came to check. Does anyone have BCM mapped out? ETA: I bit the bullet and did it. I scheduled 3x weekly (MWF) and it worked perfectly for the 36 weeks. First week is pretest, Appendix A, and Appendix B. Then after that, one day each per lesson, summary exercise, summary and review, chapter test, or cumulative review. That gives him a day to learn and a day (or weekend) to do the problems before moving on to the next lesson.

Since I originally posted this, I've had myself, my husband, all four of our parents, and our three living grandparents done at 23andme and Ancestry. 23andme had been pretty spot-on in all of our cases with ethnicity according to paper trails. And between 23andme, Ancestry, and uploading results to familytreedna, gedmatch, and myheritage, I've been able to connect to many relatives, acquiring family photos I never dreamed existed, and solved quite a few dead end in my paper trail. This includes figuring out who my FIL's completely unknown great-grandfather was. His grandfather was born in 1884 to a single mom and given her last name. There was absolutely nothing to go on. But through triangulating over two dozen DNA matches, I was able to figure it out!

I need to schedule Big Book of Lively Latin 2, the first half, over one school year. Has anyone done this and care to share one to save me planning time? I also need to schedule Lial's Basic College Mathematics over the school year. Again, has anyone done this and can share? I usually plan in February and this year I was so burnt out that I procrastinated big time. I'm now a week and a half from starting school and I have a ton to do!

Just wanted to thank you again! I got the certificate and it had both of her parents' names including mom's maiden name which I didn't know.

😆 This is always the first place I turn to.

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.

Thank you. What I don't understand is if there are two different "full" documents? One they're offering now for 33zl and one they can't offer until 80 years after 1972. It appears they're offering to sell me a full document now for 33zl. I don't have to wait 80 years from 1972 for them to send what they're willing to sell me, right?

I am trying to order my great-grandmother's death certificate from Poland. Thus far, Google translate has done the job, but I got a reply back today that doesn't make sense with Google translate. It tells me that the second paragraph says that the law says they can only give the short form and only after 80 years can they photocopy from the book. Then it says the third paragraph asks if I want the short or full record and the fees for each. So, why are they offering the full record if the law says they can't give it for 80 years (she died in 1972)? Google translate must be failing me. Can anyone tell me what this says?

Thank you!