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    S/O: Imposter Syndrome (s/o: good at anything? hard work vs. talent)

    in General Education Discussion Board

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    I guess for me it boils down to not thinking I'm all that.  A lot of people think they are much better at stuff than they are.  You know the person who says they speak another language because they took two years of it in high school (and yet we know they probably can't speak more than a few words).

     

     

    Funny that you say this. I always have this sneaking suspicion that everyone around me knows way more than I do on whatever happens to be the topic of discussion and I'm continually surprised when I discover that I sometimes know more than they do!

     

    My mom is constantly praising me for things that are easy for me and it makes me very uncomfortable. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I am always looking ahead at how I can improve and I am very conscious of those who are better at it than me. So, yes, perfectionism. :D

     

    Fwiw I'm an INFJ.

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    Questions for any type of Christian about the Harrowing of Hades

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    While we sit under wonderful men of God and on the shoulders of those who came before us, their understanding and teaching isnt enough to justify us. Each man must verify for himself these teachings if he is staking his life on them. Check your history. Check your presuppositions. Listen to both sides. ALWAYS go back to the Bible and test the account of scripture against itself to make sure these secondary resources are consistent in their theology and hermeneutic.

     

     

    This is great for us to do now, in this century, when so many of us are literate and able to go back and check sources and the Bible. TianXiaXueXiao's post shows how clearly we can understand this idea of the Harrowing of Hades by looking through scripture. But what about those Christians who couldn't read and the lack of availability of the Bible before the printing press? Were those who trusted completely in the traditions that had been passed down to them orally somehow not justified in their beliefs because they didn't double check sources?

     

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    Favorite Advent/Christmas Traditions

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    We do a Jesse Tree during Advent (52 days, since our Advent fast is 40 days + 12 days of Christmas).

     

    Dh and I put up our tree on Christmas Eve after all the kids are in bed. They like to tell everybody that St. Nicholas brings it.

     

    We put our shoes out for St. Nicholas day.

     

    Everyone gets new pjs on Christmas Eve.

     

    Our Christmas picture books come out little by little throughout Advent.

     

    We sing carols together at the piano.

     

    We have a special breakfast for Christmas morning - I make it ahead and pop it in the oven when everybody gets up.

    God will continue to chastise Christians who venerate icons...Douglas Wilson WOW!

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    Jesus Christ.

     

    I'm an outsider looking in as I went through a total deconstruction of my faith a number of years ago. I have no desire to argue whatsoever, just understand. I read an article on Ancestral Sin a number of years ago but it was just a cursory reading and obviously one quick reading doesn't give any type of deep understanding. I appreciate your time in answering questions. Your explanation of God responding to Adam's sin (now God) is the same I would have given, and in all honesty, caused a disconnect for me. But then, many things caused a disconnect. :)

     

    Could one of you Orthodox ladies take a minute to address the idea of a 'fallen nature' which I take Orthodox don't believe? And if this is true, how do you explain humanity's proclivity to sin?

     

     

    Perhaps this blog post will be helpful. Here's a snippet: 

     

     

     

    Although the Orthodox Church does teach that humanity is damaged by sin, our depravity is not total, consummate, or inherent to human nature—we retain our reason and free will (Imago Dei). The personal consequences for moral deviation are spiritual death and physical death, but the universal consequences for humanity are physical death, disease, and difficult labor. Death is the consequence of breaking communion with God, not a judgment, because created beings cannot continue to exist without God. Since Adam and Eve are linked to humanity, and humanity is linked to creation, all of nature is subjected to the same death and corruption. We inherited a cosmos where sickness and death reign. As Metropolitan Kallistos Ware put it, “Even though we are not guilty of the sins of others, yet we are somehow always involved.â€

     

     

     

    And from this post

     

    The presence of evil is sometimes apparent, and Orthodoxy acknowledges this. However, instead of stating that the wickedness of this life is reflective of man’s inner state, Orthodoxy would affirm that we are subject to a fallen world penetrated by death and evil. Therefore, it is our duty and calling to subjugate evil to the victory of Christ. And because Orthodoxy doesn’t affirm inherent wickedness in man, it is understood that whenever we sin, it is not because we have no choice in the matter, but rather because we have succumbed to the evil that lurks around us. While mankind is born pure and innocent, humans must exist in the fallen world, and are therefore subjected to a propensity toward sin

     

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    God will continue to chastise Christians who venerate icons...Douglas Wilson WOW!

    in The Chat Board

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    Modern, I mean 1,500+ AD translations, are different than early 300's (I mean to say the original Greek translation). Conveniently, the key verses we wrestle over are different. When coupled with early interpretation they can be the difference between modern thought and ancient thought, the difference between Protestant theology and Orthodox theology.

     

     

    I didn't have time to come back last night, but I've been thinking about it and ^^ this^^ is exactly what I wanted to say. We will continue to talk past each other because we are not really speaking the same language as it were. Orthodox Christians do not use scripture to interpret scripture. We read it in light of the understanding of the context which has been passed down over the centuries. And it's important to recognize that reading in English, coming from a modern context is very different than reading it in Greek within the context of the Church's mind. We can talk about sin all we want, but if (for example - not putting words in anyone's mouth, just generalizing) you see the word "sin" and read it as "law breaking" while we see the word "sin" and read it as "missing the mark", then we're just not going to get very far. 

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    God will continue to chastise Christians who venerate icons...Douglas Wilson WOW!

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    Genesis 1:26 and 1:31 

     

    God created man in His image and likeness and said that everything He had made was very good. So right away we see man as very good, by nature. He was created good. This does not change even after the fall. If it did change, and man's nature has somehow become depraved then we have a big problem when it comes to the incarnation of Christ. Because we believe that God became man, yet remained sinless, then he cannot have taken on an inherently sinful nature and have remained sinless. 

     

    Ack! Crazy kids! Will try to come back later  :gnorsi:

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    God will continue to chastise Christians who venerate icons...Douglas Wilson WOW!

    in The Chat Board

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    Tradition doesn't save. The gospel saves. If tradition isn't lining up with the gospel, something is wrong. And just because an error has been codified and repeated for centuries doesn't make it true - it isn't as though the early church was in solidarity on many of these concepts and that was that. Godly men can disagree, but it isn't by their own authorities and traditions that they validate and prove what they claim, but by the word of God. Any tradition that is good and true will be built firmly upon the bible. So that is what I'm asking for regarding man's nature and sin.

     

    I think we can still agree to disagree on these things, but if one of the EO ladies has actual scripture to back up their assertion of traditional views on the nature of sin, I'd really love to see it :)

     

     

    EO Tradition always lines up with the gospel. 

     

    Just to clarify before I go citing references - you're looking for scripture that affirms the EO view of sin or are you looking for its view on the nature of man? Or both? 

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    God will continue to chastise Christians who venerate icons...Douglas Wilson WOW!

    in The Chat Board

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    a) I should have been more precise in my language, but I guess I was thinking that they were all things that God "touched" in some way or directly had interaction with.

     

    but b) I always thought God wrote the 2nd set of tablets too. I guess I will read some Exodus later today!

     

    Either way, I don't think we have anything like those objects today.

    EO would disagree with you there. We have many many accounts of wonder- working icons and they are still very much in existence today, but that's probably for another thread. :)

     

    ETA: Just editing to clarify that miracle working is not the reason that we venerate icons- I was just pointing out that there are definitely still physical objects which are touched by God.

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    God will continue to chastise Christians who venerate icons...Douglas Wilson WOW!

    in The Chat Board

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    If you're a heathen like me, you pay homage to the mastermind of the cosmos...which makes you a follower of the Great Sagan. This means you rely upon your hedonistic five senses in order to unravel the mysteries of the universe through empirical laying on of hands on the evidence, as it were.

     

    Also, your holy vestments are yoga pants.

    would you say then that empirical knowledge is the only valid form of knowledge?

    Any Charlotte Mason users?

    in General Education Discussion Board

    Posted

    I don't do handicrafts as a part of our official school day. I feel like handicrafts are just a part of life and I make it a point to involve my kids in those handicrafts they are ready for as they grow. Cooking, baking, knitting, sewing, woodworking, etc are all things that they are exposed to in the course of our family life. I'll expose them to what I can and allow them to decide what to pursue further. 

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    Periscope

    in The Chat Board

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    I just paused one right now and will finish it a bit later. I'm loving what she has to say. This past week has been one of our best ever and I feel like it's because of my interaction with and application of what she's been saying. Love, love, love! 

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    Curriculum as Christmas Gift?

    in General Education Discussion Board

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    We give educational toys and books as gifts often (this year is snap circuits). The grandparents give us money to get passes to local science and children's museums. I wouldn't give a core book/workbook as a gift though. Wouldn't that be sort of like socks?

     

     

    I love getting socks for Christmas!  :lol: (And seriously my mom would always always buy us a few pairs each year)

    Any Charlotte Mason users?

    in General Education Discussion Board

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    I love Charlotte Mason, but I'm another person who picks and chooses from AO. I love much of what they have to offer, but I make plenty of substitutions and omissions/additions. 

     

    I found 8filltheheart's Treasured Conversations to be a perfect fit for grammar and writing because it taught me HOW to teach those things. And it's really a good fit with CM philosophy. 

     

    We do one narration a day, sometimes two for my eldest. I'm transitioning him to written narration for him so we're working on one written narration per week.

     

    I can't speak to the science question really because we're not in the upper years yet, so I don't have any kind of opinion on the books. We've just started MHLW and I'm withholding judgement till we get a little further in :D 

     

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