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  1. They really dumbed down the catechism for my generation.
    I heard a priest say in a homily, "If you went to CCD in the 70's and 80's you learned you were special and that was about it."

     

    I didn't even know what a mortal sin was until I was married. It is so sad. I think back to all the people I could have shared my faith with if I had been properly taught. My parents were/are faithful; they just assumed I was being taught at church. It has started changing, but it really depends on your parish and your diocese.

     

    This has piqued my interest though. I'm going to really look into this as an option for our family.

  2. Placing confirmation after first Communion “only muddied the primacy of the Eucharist as the completion of initiation into the Church and the lifelong nourishment of the relationship established with the Trinity and the Church in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation,†the Fargo bishop said

     

     

     

    I loved this part. Nothing should muddle the primacy of the Eucharist!

    I'm going to show this to my DH. Our oldest is embarking on 2nd grade this fall.

  3. Normally, if a person wants to teach at a Catholic institution, they have to agree to abide by the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

     

    Abide by.

     

    They aren't necessarily teaching anything from the Magisterium, they just have to abide by what is in it.

     

     

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    Unfortunately, most Catholic schools don't require their employees to abide by the magisterium. As a Catholic School teacher, I can attest that there were very few teachers that did this. This is why there are very few Catholic schools I'd send my children to.

  4. Yep, 'cause that was the term at the time.

     

    I just found out on wikipedia there's still one American diocese (RC) that doesn't accept girls as altar servers. (Lincoln, Nebraska).

     

    My diocese, Arlington, was the last to recently allow them, but it is up to the pastor. We frequent two parishes; one allows them and one doesn't.

  5. :lol:

     

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    I'm just surprised that there would be a Mass celebrated by a Bishop and the details of altar servers wouldn't have been worked out ahead of time. Was he distributing Communion? If so' date=' he would be a Eucharistic Minister. A Eucharistic Minister may also be a deacon. :) The Eucharistic Ministers are in the pews like everyone else until it's time for the Communion.

     

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    That's because you have never lived in Italy. Trust me, as someone who has, that does not surprise me in the least.

     

    So my ? for Bill is what made you ask this today? Just reminiscing?

  6. Since one's salvation rarely comes up at most co-ops and most Evangelical Christian co-ops include groups of people that don't agree with each other on other things, no, it doesn't help. One should not sit and judge another's salvation. There are Protestants that believe in infant baptism that are included in those groups, but not Catholics/Orthodox. So that isn't even an issue. Only if there is a particular type of history course being taught could I see an issue. Writing, Latin, Art, PE...none of that has anything to do with one's theological leanings.

     

    I like the fact that we have an inclusive group in the next county.

     

    I would be weary of adults and children asking my children if they have been saved, etc.... That has been my experience over and over again, so I'm not willing to put my children in a situation like that until they are old enough to defend themselves. That is why this issue is not as big of a deal to me as it is to others. I've seen churches 'use' co-ops and clubs as a way to evangelize people like me and my children. They have free soccer camps and break for salvation talks. They have debate clubs with a bible study based on their interpretation of scripture. They often do those things underhandedly and don't even tell you about them up front. I went to a field trip at a 'Christian' farm and we ended up getting a theology lesson full of errors that I had to undo all the way home. I think it is great that some people experience groups that can truly meet together and put aside their theology differences. I've just never seen one in person.

     

    Also, I think typically Catholic groups don't have a SOF, because it is one church w/ a universal doctrine. Evangelical churches don't have any uniformity in doctrine, so they have to figure out what they agree on.

  7. Frankly, I didn't find MEP user friendly either. I used some of the worksheets as a supplement (to SM). When my second son came along I thought about using MEP exclusively with him, but I just couldn't get into it. The teacher instructions are more geared towards groups and assume I know what they are talking about.

    So far I agree, but I didn't have much time to look at it. I really needed a filler workbook that I can just hand DS1. That is how I use Singapore to round out RS. MEP didnt work that way for us.

  8. That was my first reaction too. After thinking it over a bit I'm now wondering whether they were viewing people's signatures as acknowledgements that the group members understood those beliefs to be foundational to the group's philosophy, rather than viewing the signatures as affirmations of agreement with the listed beliefs. I think there is a difference between signing to say, "Yes I agree with these beliefs," and signing to say, "Yes, I understand that the meetings of this group will be conducted in accordance with these beliefs whether I agree with them or not, and I agree not to make waves about this." If you see what I mean.

     

     

    That is how I interpreted SOF, but after reading this thread I see that is not how it is always used. The group I linked to showed the Apostle's Creed, but doesn't demand that you sign it. That is how I took a SOF to be used. This is what we believe. Even in signing it, I thought that the individual was affirming that that is what 'the group' believes. I somewhat take back what I said before about it not being a big deal. I do see how that would be obnoxious to others. I wouldn't want my child to be in a group that taught them something contrary to what I am teaching them though.

  9. Gotcha!

     

    I'm still not sure I understand why people get bent out of shape about SOFs. This seems to have been hashed and rehashed so many times. If there was a Catholic or LDS or Pagan (for example) homeschool group or co-op, I feel very certain I would not agree to those SOFs at all. And I would certainly want to know going in what their beliefs and teachings are.

     

    I'm with you on this one. I think it is really stating the obvious, but then again I wouldn't ever send my children to a non-catholic co-op, preschool, parochial school, or church function. I think the point of the thread though was to answer why Catholics wouldn't sign the SOF for the co-op.

  10. One more thought for you:

     

    Even though my DH and I are both Catholic, we don't always have the same spiritual needs. Just as we have different love languages we have different spiritual needs. I love listening to modern praise and worship....him not so much. I love going to daily mass and doing bible studies. We work with each other to balance our spiritual needs. Could this also be something to be addressed with the two of you? How can you connect spiritually together. A marriage encounter retreat might be a great place to start with that one.

  11. Can you list an Abraham and a Moses date?

     

    The Moses dates will let people know which Egyptian system the timeline uses. I think there are 2 main secular based and 1 main biblical based systems, used for Egypt, that are commonly used in Biblical/Christian curricula. It's all so confusing :-(

     

    I'm sorry this took me all day to get to. Both the kids and adults charts list the time periods, the narrative book, and these dates across the bottom:

     

    Early World Genesis 1-11 Creation-2000 BC

    Patriarchs Genesis 12-50 2000 BC-1700 BC

    Egypt and Exodus Exodus 1700 BC-1280 BC

    Desert Wanderings Numbers 1280 BC-1240 BC

    Conquest & Judges Joshua/Judges 1240 BC-1050 BC

     

    I only posted the first 5 periods. There are 7 more.

     

    Abraham is listed around 2000BC. Jacob's family moves to Egypt is 1700 BC. It lists the Exodus/First Passover at 1280 BC.

     

    I hope that helps.:)

  12. When dh and I met, he was a cradle catholic, Church every sunday, had received all this sacraments. I was attending and loving a Southern Baptist church. We just did our separate things during the engagement (yes in hindsight that was not a good thing to do) and we would work it all out when we were married.I did ask him (once or twice if he was saved-he said of course he was as he went to church every sunday) So DH got a dispensation saying that he could marry a nonCatholic in a nonCatholic church. He signed something about doing his best to raise the kids catholic.

    We married and have attended Catholic churches throughout the 14 years of marriage and 4 kids. I was confirmed into the Catholic church. My kids have all their sacraments in place.

     

    I don't not like the Catholic church. The only thing that holds me there is that I do believe the bread and wine become the actually bread and body of Christ as is written in John 6.

     

    I don't like all saints and statues and rosaries and novenas. I also have issue with having to see a priest to have my sins forgiven. I fully believe in 1John 1:9 "If we confess our sins he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

     

    I want to go to a different church some Sunday. But before I even figure out which on, how do you tell dh you're not pleased with his Catholic faith and you want something different.? My DH will get hissy and mad and tell me to go and do what I want but not to expect any participation from him...

     

    Had to get this off my chest...

    Jennifer

    Jennifer,

    I read this this morning, but I decided to wait and post after I went to morning mass. First, I want to say that my heart goes out to you with a bit of empathy. I was once engaged to a devout SB who loved Jesus with all His heart just as I did. We thought we could make it work, but when then we realized that neither was willing to give up our own church and we couldn't raise the kids that way. A few years later God brought me a wonderful WONDERFUL Catholic husband. I tell you this, so you know I somewhat understand what you are going through even though we made different choices.

     

    You did decided to raise the children in your husband's church. Not only that, but you joined his church. I have been attending RCIA with a young woman I'm mentoring. I encouraged her to proceed as she would with marriage. This is a lifetime commitment just as a marriage vow. She decided she wasn't quite ready, but she still wants to come back next year. Can you step back and look at how you DID make a lifetime commitment to the Catholic church. And I'd add, I believe you probably did this for the good of your children. After my previous engagement ended, someone told me that children that grow up listening to their parents fight about religion are more prone to end up as athiests. As another poster stated, you don't have to pray the rosary or to the saints to be Catholic. You do believe in the Eucharist!!!!! If that is the only Catholic thing you pass on to your children that is awesome. Let your husband handle the traditions you are uncomfortable with.

     

    As for confession, I could state other bible verses that Catholic theology shows refute what you said. I will simply link to the confession page on scripture catholic dot com here. This is the one area I'd encourage you to thoroughly study in your bible. I also encourage you to make sure you have a version of the bible that uses the word 'presbyters' in James 5:14, because otherwise James 5:16 is misinterpreted. On a personal note, I find it so interesting when outsiders to our faith view confession as a guilt trip or something that chains us down. I find so much grace, love, and freedom from the sacrament of confession. I have Protestant friends that attend accountability groups, and I would not be comfortable letting other people know what my struggles with sin are. I've seen people use information like that against each other. And these are all good Christians. When I go to confession, the priest doesn't even see my face, it is between me and God. I'm not saying I never talk to close friends or my husband about such things, but I find accountability groups a slippery slope to go down.

     

    Finally, I've known some converts that found they preferred to pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy instead of the Rosary. Neither is required, but you might look into that. This is how to pray it. This is the

    of it sung on youtube. This is the
    of it sung on youtube. I LOVE THIS ONE. It is always in my shuffle.
  13. I have no idea!

     

    I used my knowledge of Spanish to figure out enough to click something and get the PDFs.

     

    I have both Manuel de lecture and Manuel d' ecriture.

     

    You could ask about La Librairie des Ecoles on the bilingual boards, a few of the ladies there have used the website and actually speak French. Or, you could just pick something, apparently that's what I did!!

     

    I'm translating everything in google to navigate the site. I tried to click on something, and it asked me to log in. I think I'll try the student account first. What are the bilingual boards?

    Thanks again.

  14. What is the date of creation? I bought just the kid's timeline awhile back, but it is tiny and I have lost it :-(

     

     

    It doesn't specify. The first time period, (Early World) says Creation-2000 BC. Abraham is the first dated event.

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