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I am not offended. That homeschool dad made it soud as if all proselytizing was bullying.
Ass defined by the law, in a school setting, as addressed by the statute I quoted, the elected legislature has decided that yes, it is bullying. We can agree or disagree on the semantics, but the law is there in genuine, printed text.
I also said that the OP's situation seemed to be outside a school setting, but the response should be similar. That has no legal backup, so it is indeed a grayer area, to say the least, and as such, should be handled by the adults present.
What we're getting down to is that acceptance of others as a valuable skill to encourage in all children regardless of their own family beliefs. You can't legislate that, but it's still the right thing to do.
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Sounds like some sort of change is in order -- different studio, different class, or an outright break. DD has been to the same school since 2, but serious classes didn't start until waaaay later.
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My point is that a UU church among evangelicals will not be considered a Christian Church and the proselytizing may very well continue.
Heck, in many circles, there is a whole list of "not really church" churches.
Wasn't there a line in Animal Farm that went something like
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
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Wow proselytizing equals bullying? How so? How is asking someone if they would like to hear how they can become a christian bullying? Or asking someone if they've been born again harassment. The westboro church yeah that's bullying but your average christian sharing their faith is a far cry from bullying. What ever happened to freedom of speech? I have the freedom to say what I want you have the freedom to listen or ask me to stop. Where is the bullying in that?
Yes, as it is defined in the first paragraph of NJ law above, it is bullying, at least in a school setting. Your state may differ, but you can easily find out online. Outside a school setting, it may get murky, but why should the standard be different in a co-op, or a robotics club, etc., unless the stated intent/mission of said group is religious in nature?
I do agree with your statement that it is the right of the listener to ask it to stop. When that listener is ten, parental involvement is most likely warranted.
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Methinks the best way to combat school shootings is to DENY THE SHOOTERS A GUN. Then hey! Maybe we wouldn't have as many victims to focus on.
Yeah, but that would require legislating parental responsibility, and we know how well that works. Maybe it will get to the point where the electorate will threaten recalls and state AGs will start suing manufacturers, but I doubt it. The other side is smaller, but far more organized.
Edit -- just read that it was not the parents' weapon. The kid is 18 and bought it legally, so there's legislation that totally makes sense.
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I don't think any one has used the term yet, so I will. Proselytizing is a form of bullying as it is currently defined in public school districts (and the Air Force Academy -- but that's another story).
In a ps with a strong anti-bullying initiative (like DW's), the first step would be intervention by admins with all kids involved. Escalating from that would be parent conferences, etc. Zero tolerance ruffles feathers, but it works when done consistently by professionals.
Confront the kids at fault, then confront the parents. If it doesn't change, leave. If you get a parent response of "it's just kids being kids," explain that it is not; it's serious enough to have affected public policy. Here's part of the official doc from the local BoE:
Harassment, Intimidation, and Bullying Definition
“Harassment, intimidation, or bullying†means any gesture, any written, verbal or physical act, or any electronic communication, as defined in N.J.S.A. 18A:37-14, whether it be a single incident or a series of incidents that:
1. Is reasonably perceived as being motivated by either any actual or perceived characteristic, such as race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity and expression, or a mental, physical or sensory disability; or
2. By any other distinguishing characteristic; and that
3. Takes place on school property, at any school-sponsored function, on a school bus, or off school grounds, as provided for in N.J.S.A. 18A:37-15.3, that substantially disrupts or interferes with the orderly operation of the school or the rights of other pupils; and that
4. A reasonable person should know, under the circumstances, that the act(s) will have the effect of physically or emotionally harming a pupil or damaging the pupil’s property, or placing a pupil in reasonable fear of physical or emotional harm to his/her person or damage to his/her property; or
5. Has the effect of insulting or demeaning any pupil or group of pupils; or
6. Creates a hostile educational environment for the pupil by interfering with a pupil’s education or by severely or pervasively causing physical or emotional harm to the pupil.
The laws of your state may differ, but are easy enough to find online.
Schools don't tolerate this; neither should homeschoolers.
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My grammar education was pathetic. You want to talk "holes??" I'm a sieve when it comes to grammar that I "learned" in ps.
Anyhoo, please help me w/ this sentence:
If the couple was to walk into their home. . .
OR
If the couple were to walk into their home. . .
And what is the reasoning for the correct way to say it?
Also, do you have any easy ways to remember how/when to 's these kind of works:
James car
the bussiness food
Mr. Cortez saddle
I'm so bad at this.
Thank you!
Alley
The first one is were, because it's subjunctive mood (the "hypothetical" mood), which is that one funky construction for which you use were for singular subjects. If you've seen Fiddler on the Roof, it's why Tevye sings "If I were a rich man..." It sounds odd, and I suspect it will go the way of Thee and Thou....eventually.
If I were taller, I would play basketball.
If she were going to take that test today, she would fail.
If the couple were to walk into their home, they'd be surprised by the wolverines.
OWL has a better explanation for the 's than I can type here.
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I've been wondering about what kind of alternative energy technology can be used in snowy areas. (Sure, I could google but I'm in the middle of listening to a lecture and don't want to side track too much.) Obviously such technologies are out of the price range of many of us, but they also become cheaper over time so perhaps that problem will resolve itself eventually. Solar won't be much use, but what about domestic wind turbines?
A slight diversion in topic, I realise.
Geothermal, which most associate with Iceland, but actually, we already have the largest production:
- US – 3,093 MW as of 2010
- Philippines – 1,904 MW
- Indonesia – 1,197 MW
- Mexico – 958 MW
- Italy – 843 MW
- New Zealand – 628 MW
- Iceland – 575 MW
- Japan – 536 MW
- El Salvador – 204 MW
- Kenya – 167 MW
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Growing up I lived in an area where you really NEVER saw bike riders except for the very poor who just had no other way to get around. And where I live now, it's not much different. Poor people really are the only ones who ride bikes around here (other than children or the occasional exerciser/athlete).
Yup. That's the split here. Latino day workers on little kid bikes and the random exec on a $2k racer. Most of the in town roads are fine to pedal, but to get to an office, you've got to hit the larger roads that aren't safe, not because they're new, but because they're old and narrow.
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The only real analysis I heard was on NPR with a guy who wrote a book examining the uniquely American phenomenon. He pegged the start with that Texas tower shooter in 1964 (I think), which is farther back than I thought, but intetvals have shrunk a LOT within the last ten. He didn't have a clear answer, except to say that it's our human and media's nature to assign single causes, like only video games, when the data does not show that.
The teacher targeted in this one left the building, which was a smart move on all counts.
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I'll have no excuse to not finish stripping and painting the house, but at least there's a line, where the color changes, that marks the month HS started seven years ago.
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My mother made an insane lemon cake for gifts for a long time. I never got the recipe, but oh, man....
I did different compound butters in the smallest Ball style canning jars one year and people raved. It was different from the cookie thing.
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In no way did I intend to imply that prayer, good vibes, hugs or anything else should be in any way unwelcome or unhelpful.
You're right, you didn't. I was picking up on the middle of your post, which is right on the money: "But, many of us lost a good friend from the board last year and others lost family members. It is just a small dagger to the heart every time someone claims that the good and devout will be healed or that prayer conquers all or that someone just needs to fight. It's just not that simple or trite."
I also agree that curing cancer via prayer (or other meditative means) is not clinically productive in its own right. That being said, if the giver and givee receive some measure of comfort for a time, that's only good and never bad.
If it veers into the simple or the trite, I will be all up in arms, because that disrespects the inherent complexity of cancer, which few understand until they get it. It is a worthy topic, though, not here. Maybe this deserves its own s/o.
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But, it is offensive to in any way imply that covering someone in prayer will automatically lead to a good result. I don't want to argue about it further here in this thread.
I've come to see both sides. Yes, I did not cause my cancer, and yes, prayer will not cure it, HOWEVER....
I am deeply grateful for any and all good vibrations, religious or otherwise, that have been aimed in my general direction.
So yes, prayers to this patient, and/or white light, and/or an offered chant, and/or an offering to the ancestors, and/or whatever might convey support that is most comfortable for the supporter expressing that. If it's not nefarious, and not assumed to be THE answer, then it's all good simply for the sentiment behind that single action.
But yes, do get some chocolate. Carbs are good, too.
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And second of all, every cancer is different, every patient is different, and every outcome is different.
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Yes, yes, and double yes!!!!
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I am a cancer survivor and I would say two things: 1) Worst case scenario, if it's cancer, cancer is not an automatic death sentence. 2) There is nothing you can do right now, so you could try various coping mechanisms between now and when you hear. Distracting yourself can be helpful--when you're panicked, do something that takes in-the-moment concentration, or watch a movie you like, play Tetris, or go to a Zumba class. (Exercise is really good for dispelling anxiety.) Journal about it if you can't distract yourself. If you are religious, write to God about it. (Keeps your mind from spinning that can happen while praying free form in your head.) Decide whether internet research is good for you or not. For some people, it helps them feel in control; for others, it plants several worst case scenarios in their heads and increases the fear.
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I'm a Stage IV survivor (there is no stage V) going on three years, so yes, even "terminal" does not mean what it always used to mean. The best three words are right from Martin Selligman -- Distance - Distract - Dispute.
Put distance between yourselves and the cancer -- go to the movies. There's a snowstorm coming, so go to the supermarket (should be fun). Change your location in some way.
Distraction does not mean lessening the importance of something; it means you don't need to devote 100% of your conscious ability to it right now. Thinking of whipping together that 20-ingredient lasagna? Do it. Clean out the basement. Whatever. Think about 5 minutes into the future, max.
Dispute -- perhaps the most powerful, but also takes the most practice. Argue with yourself, along the lines of "my mom died of cancer, yes, but maybe this is a different cancer, and we don't even know if it's cancer; but what if he dies? How do you know if and when that will happen? I don't, but...; but how do you know when or if that will happen...." It kinda goes on and on, and the goal is not necessarily to win the argument. the goal is for the one side of your brain to get so fed up with the other side that you forget to worry for a while.
I'm not saying it's easy, which would be a bold faced lie. I'm saying it's possible to live with, which is a whole 'nother kettle of fish. I would also strongly encourage you to NOT go it alone. Any good cancer center will have oncology social workers, and maybe a child life specialist. Call them up. It's not necessarily therapy, but a good onco social can really hook you up with even the basics, like child care and whatnot. They are an under-utilized resource. If there's a Gilda's Club or Wellness Community near you, call them. There are a ton of resources just waiting to be uncovered.
Oh, and chocolate. Gotta have that. Maybe fudge, too.
You can do this.
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I'd buy an argument, however unscientific, that hs may proportionally alter a child, as my only evidence is watching DD outrun all the boys. I silently gloat every time.
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Everything from ATK is fussy if you really geek out on all the background science. I will say a meatloaf mix (pork/veal/beef) yields a better loaf than straight beef. I love my grass fed ground for everything else, but for a loaf I'll get 80% in a store brand mix and keep telling myself the other ingredients I use will counter any bovine growth hormones.
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The thing that gets me is that people seem to want new technology to solve the problem. I would think we could use old technology. We could modify trains to be more efficient, but the old designs worked. Costs weren't prohibitive. If we NEED to have a hovercraft train that floats silently and has anti-bacterial seats that adjust to my posture, sure, we will never see a way to make it work.
I'm not against new technology either, but I think people throw the baby out with the bathwater when they say - well, this was done before and disposed of, so it is crap now and we need a new idea.
Which partially explains the re-emergence of an electric car niche, which last had a niche a century ago (e.g. the 1912 Detroit Electric). Because of economics of scale, as for now it helps to be Jay Leno if you really want to be an early adopter, which is why manufacturers are initially targeting fleets, as with Via Motors, and various initiatives in commercial trucking, where it really does come down to profit margin.
Our auto history is deep, and inexorably intertwined with the way we govern. Henry Ford himself was frustrated by the Interstate Commerce Commission regulations governing rail transport that, even 100 years ago, were draconian compared to the entrepreneurial strategies he pursued with such success (after completely bombing twice).
Business will do what business does, and if trucks ran on milk, BP would simply own a ton of cows. If my child's first house has a charging station in the garage, it will most likely be the result of it being profitable for someone to sell them in quantities large enough to sustain the business.
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I am a pianist and teach piano, so perhaps I could offer these words? Did you ever learn the funny sayings for lines and spaces in the treble clef? There are similar acronyms for the bass clef. In the same way as the treble clef, you count the 5 lines and 4 spaces from the bottom to the top. So if you look at the spaces first, bottom to top, the acronym would be, "All Cows Eat Grass", or A, C, E, G. For the lines, bottom to top, "Great Big Dogs Fight Animals" or even, "Good Boys Deserve Fudge Always", or G, B, D, F, A. That will give you a basis for reading the notes in the Bass Clef. There are also some great workbooks that will help with note recognition too. I can give you the name of a particular one I like, if you think it would help. I just have to look it up.
Good for you for rising to such a great challenge!
Yeah, I know them as Every Good Boy Does Fine vs. Good Boys Do Fine Always (which always sounded clunky to my English major ears, but whatever). I also get the whole step down from treble for lines and spaces. I suspect it's now just marrying the note recognition with fingering and ear, like what I know as "middle C" is actually way high on tuba. DW informs me that my level one SoE book is on order!
This giant mouthpiece still makes my eyeballs vibrate, tho.
Thanks.
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At least it's brass, so the mechanics are there. I tried cello in my late 20's and bailed. That whole thing about not using air to control the sound was too much for my circuits to process.
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I may be nuts.
No, I am definitely nuts, but that's another thread.
I played trumpet from middle school through college, but haven't played much at all over the last 27 years. DW just got a new "baby" tuba, a very nice Holton Collegiate, for her ms program, and somehow it has lodged in my noodle that, yeah, I could play that, at least for her two yearly concerts.
Embouchure seems fine, although I do feel like my whole face vibrates. No problems with breath support (thanks, drum corps!). It's a rather compact bit of brass, at least compared to those really giant horns.
I just have to learn.....bass clef.....at 48.
I may just get the old Standard of Excellence Book One and have at it, but being, shall we say, life experienced, of course I'm looking for a short cut. I'm wary of continually trying to transpose treble in my head, like writing teeny English words above my German texts in college -- not efficient in hindsight, although it worked at the time, in a bang your head against cement sorta way.
Has anyone done it?
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I would suspect tuning costs vary greatly be region. In NYC Metro NJ, I think we pay $150ish.
We scored a great upright from a university sale - they were rotating out practice room uprights after not a whole lotta use. Maybe it's unique to that one school here, but maybe not, so worth checking around. Our full sized Young Chang Pramberger professional upright ran us about $4k from Seton Hall eight or so years ago, and it's an awesome instrument.
Weekly lessons are plenty. DD switched to French Horn in 4th, but the piano still gets almost daily use. It's definitely a long term investment either way.
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