CHAP was in the Lancaster County Convention Center this year. It was a little crowded and not as many of the known vendors, but it was a great time! And they allow you to take your own food in there. It was nice to stay in the Marriott, which was the same building as the convention. We parked Thurs. and never went to the van until we left Sat.! Pam

Thanks I decided on Exploration Education with 12 & 14 yo dss, but I didn't want the 10 yo ds tagging along with that just yet. I have Lyrical Science and really love it, but never used it consistently. So with 10 yo ds I was thinking of doing a song a week in Lyrical Life Science along with Exploring the World of Biology. IF it all wouldn't be over his head. Pam

Could I use this with a 10 year old boy if I am reading it to him? Pam

...Evan Moor? OR with something else? (10 yo ds) Pam

I'll see if I can say this to make sense. There's always a three-ring circus going on around me. :) I guess because since youngest is still young enough for SOTW, and I've read (too much!) that SOTW and MOH might round each other out (one more secular and one more Biblical), I thought if I did them both, I might be able to share with the younger/olders what the other is reading and show how the history weaves together. Or do you think MOH does that well enough on its own??? Totally clear as mud??? :) Pam

So, I could use the BP Guide for 'when' to do a SOTW chapter (as we go along with the MOH schedule for the olders), and do the SOTW AG? Does it tell somewhere what AG page goes with the SOTW chapters? I'm just so thick headed until that 'duh' moment comes along. Then I can't see what the big deal was and it is all crystal clear. :) I think it is the time of the year that I am going crazy with wanting next year settled! Pam

OKAY, IF... ...I did BP, and used SOTW with 10 yo ds, would you do the activity pages from BP OR SOTW? I have the pages from SOTW and I don't know if I should sell them or if I'll use them. Pam

Has anyone done MOH with olders (12 & 14) AND SOTW with a younger (10) at the same time. I DON'T want to rearrange chapters. I don't want to use an outside lesson plan that combines. They always rearrange chapters. I want open and go. I really considered BP, but from the past, planners like that never get done. I start with the planners and their pages, and then always want to add the pages that go with the MOH or SOTW because they look great, too! Then I can't decide, I get overwhelmed, and none get done. BUT, if I follow SOTW AND MOH guides, keeping the levels separated, will it totally confuse me? I had asked about doing everyone together with one of these 2 a few years ago, but we ended up doing something all together different. This year we did our own 'explorers' study and then studied Africa and it's geography. I really want a better plan for next year and follow through with the plan. Pam

I hope you get some great deals! Rainbow Science won't be there, But Rainbow RESOURCE WILL be there. Pam

Look me up, Kristin! I've been dreaming about this for weeks, too! And the same about the CURRICULUM THERAPY weekend! :) I LOVE your list! Pam

What will you be looking at? :001_smile: Pam

Who's going? What are you planning to look at? I am looking at: Exploration Education ( :sad: Derek Owens and Rainbow Science won't be there) Biblioplan ( :sad: HOD won't be there) RightStart Illuminations And I'm sure I'll add to the list a lot more in the next few days! Pam

I had a DIVE program for math once. I never thought to look into it for science. I thought he (DIVE) taught to a specific 'book/curriculum'. Is it video/online and workbook only? Pam OH, NO! Another option!! :)

Not at all! I'll check it out. Thank!! Pam

Has anyone done either Rainbow Science OR Exploration Education THEN do Derek Owens Physical Science? Or would that be redundant? As I look at these three, it really looks like the RS and EE are very hands on, and DO is deeper in lecture and math. Pam

The more I look into the three of these, it looks like DO is not hands on. I don't see that there is any kit or list of supplies to have on hand? I know I didn't state hands on in my original post, but I really think at 7th and 8th grade, I'd like that instead of just lectures and workbook. Please set me straight if I'm wrong. :) Pam

Ours love Atelier Art. My older dd is using it with her little ones, too, and they also love it! Pam

For 7th and 8th grade boys. One is a slower reader, but studies well. Fairly independent is a MUST!

I was planning on spending time at their booth at our convention. I will be there with our diploma association right around the corner from them! :) I was thinking of also calling them tomorrow so I can have my homework done and know what to ask/look for. This is very helpful about MM. I will consider all of this. Thanks for sharing your experience. Pam

I am looking at RS because it looks like it will cover what I want in math. As far as using what I have to accomplish these goals-- I don't feel I have time to reinvent the wheel. If someone has already made plans for my goal-- all the better! I'll have more time to teach. :) Pam

Liz FitzGerald, endorsed trainer of SWR, has been working on Lesson Plans for 5 years now. She is expecting on having them available this July! I have been field testing them for 2 years, and they are GREAT! I can't tell you how much of a difference they have made in our success to using SWR. Check out her fb page and web site. Pam

Available target date..... JULY, 2017!

https://www.facebook.com/SWRTraining/

Thank you so much for all the help and links! I printed out the items you suggested. Our homeschool convention (CHAP in Lancaster, PA) is coming up the 1st of June. RS will be there! I can see and test all of these! You have helped me with my 'homework' so I know what to look for and ask about. I REALLY appreciate this! Is this the same as the RS fractions puzzle? Pam

OhElizabeth-- That is a LOT to digest! Thank you for being so thorough in trying to help me see our situation from the outside in. (maybe from the inside out :) ) #1. Yes, we have 5 that have graduated and live normal productive lives. They did not do well in math. We didn't have a lot to work with back then, and I did not have much of a clue as to what I was doing. I still feel lost sometimes. I want to help our last 3 boys to have the best I know to give them (which is really what I wanted with our first 5, too). #2. Is RightStart the answer? Thank you for asking. I am not sure. I am doing my best to find out how to teach them mental and conceptual math. Maybe they just won't go as far as others, but I believe there is more they can learn than what they are given credit for. We are not an exceptionally smart family. All our children have struggled in spelling, some in reading, some in math. I really like how Videotext is teaching our 13 year old son how to see and understand mathematical ideas and not just isolated facts and methods. For the 11 and 9 year olds, I see the same patterns forming where they are learning how to do math, but they really aren't understanding it. I thought RS had the qualities to help them build skills besides drilling flashcards and doing speed drills. I just don't have time or smarts to take parts of a program and plug them in here and there and make them effective. I wish RS had a remedial lesson plan, not just get this game and that. I might see if MM would fit the what I am looking for. I am still asking questions and trying to glean from samples. I am an old (55) mamma, trying to learn new things! I will look at all the links and see where it takes us. Thank you! Pam (Sorry some of these thought are so jumbled. I am trying to multi-task tonight.)