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I don't have the new WTM book yet, but am wondering what SWB recommends for a 5th grade writing program. Would someone mind listing the preferred writing and grammar programs, please? :001_smile:

Thanks, Peela -- that was helpful. Homeschoolchic, many people seem to do well with Homer. I'm going to try following the ideas of those more experienced here and see what happens. I wish things had gone smoother with us.

We've used Zaner-Bloser with success: http://www.zaner-bloser.com/WorkArea/showcontent.aspx?id=3550

I have had that temptation myself (or to gladly donate it, lol). There are some ideas and suggestions here that I am certainly going to try. I've given myself a mental block and I'm hoping to chip away at it...

Lana, I've never heard of this program; it looks good. I will investigate it. Thanks!

Thank you, Amy. Your post is encouraging (esp the reorganizing the book part). I'm going to try to hang in there for a bit longer. I really appreciate hearing from those who have mastered this program. My goal this weekend is to try to relax and spend some time outlining :chillpill:.

I admire those on the board with the gift of writing. It has never been a strong point for me. I appreciate all this helpful input and encouragement. I'm determined to try the outlining approach before I close the books for good on Homer. If a program switch is in order, what would be some recommendations (secular, please) for an enthusiastic fifth grader who has a good grasp on writing (but the mother does not)? Thanks so much.

Heather, I am to the point of putting dd in a local gifted school next year because I feel writing is so important and I am failing her. For the first time in 5 yrs hs'ing, I feel very inadequate as a teacher for my dd, struggling with Homer in this way. I don't think I could feel much worse about it all... I have not looked into the online class, but expense would be a consideration for us. Thanks for your thoughts.

I'll try the outlining approach. Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks:)

I've been struggling through Homer A for several months with a 5th grader. The problem seems to be me. I have a tough time putting it all together, even though I've bought every part of the program to make it easier. I'm getting to the point where I dread pulling it all out and trying to get through another day. I feel like I need to remember a thousand things, am constantly having to re-read parts that I can't retain, and I am getting burned out. It's not the grammar -- it's the writing part. We had a great year with Aesop, which initially hooked me on CW. Have you felt it worth sticking out CW, or have you found another user-friendly program with good results? Does SWB still recommend WS as first choice? I feel like I'm sinking and need a good, solid grammar/writing program for a 5th grader. Thanks for any guidance you can offer.

Thanks! I'll go ahead & order the Spectrum book.

Thanks so much for the very helpful advice/opinions...

Should I invest in a practice test for the ITBS (grade 4, first test)? Do you spend much time prepping? If so, what would you recommend doing? Thanks in advance.

Milseain, thanks -- this is new to me and I will check it out...

I will check into both recommendations. Much appreciate the input, everyone.

I have so far followed a 4-yr cycle with the Usborne Encyclopedia & library materials. Now entering the 5th-6th grade level, I am seeking a secular history program that would be straightforward to implement and not too time-intensive on my part (health issues). I have been reading over TWTM's suggested program, but it seems a bit daunting. I really could use some advice here. Thanks.

SWB, is there a plan for WWE for late elementary?

We had it years ago at another house. It was thick (sometimes a bit difficult to cut), wonderful grass; browned out in the wintertime, but still a good carpet. Needs good sun exposure, and it can take years to establish the whole yard as a lawn (slow growing). Not invasive, IMO. Good luck with it!

Oh no! I had the vaccine this year, but sounds like I still have a chance of getting it. I had the flu last year -- awful.

This is a virtual dissection -- maybe it would assist you since you don't have a guide. Good luck! http://froggy.lbl.gov/virtual/