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  1. Hi All, I'm a first-time homeschooling mom. I have a rising 4th grader who struggles a lot in the writing department. I saw the author's YT video talking about WWE and love the idea behind this program and how it was designed to help kids who can read but can't necessarily put down their thoughts on paper as easily or answer comprehension questions. My issue is, he should technically be in book 4 but because he struggles so much should I just put him in level 1? Since it's designed for younger students, and has shorter work, maybe he can do a couple of lessons in a day and try to breeze through it to reach his level faster. Or, will he be fine starting in a level 3? Would he miss any foundations that are covered in book 1 and 2? Also, I was looking into FLL but I'm confused...is this book only grammar? Is it taught simultaneously with WWE? Is this a book that need to be taught from book 1 so he won't miss any important grammar lessons? I know his school taught him grammar but I'm not confident in how well it was taught or how much information he was actually retaining. Thanks in advance!
  2. Time Left: 12 days and 15 minutes

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  4. I am working on plans for my DD who will be starting 1st grade soon. I am planning on using Memoria Press for a lot of it. However, I am questioning if I should add WWE 1 and FLL1. I really liked using those with my older kids and am questioning if there is enough of that covered in MP curriculum. I am also wondering if the overall load is to much. Take a look and at what I am planning and give me your honest opinions. Thanks! WW1 FLL1 Memoria Press Phonics and new Traditional spelling MP Lit (1st grade level) MP copybook MP recitations MP enrichment/ crafts Rod and Staff math 1 SOTW 1 Behold and See 1 (science)
  5. Hi all, While supplies last, we're offering VERY LIGHTLY scratched/scuffed books from Well-Trained Mind Press for 60% off the cover price! We have The Story of the World (activity books, textbooks, and tests), First Language Lessons, Writing With Ease, Writing With Skill, The Creative Writer, Telling God's Story, and many more. These books (which, honestly, aren't very scratched, and just look like they'll look once your children have them for a few weeks anyway) are only available through our office, not our website, so call 1.877.322.3445 to find out what's available and to make your purchase. Justin from Well-Trained Mind Press
  6. My children are 8, 10, and 12. We've been homeschooling for a few years but have been following a more traditional writing curriculum. It drives me crazy because it's clear that an 8 year old isn't ready to write compare/contrast essays and persuasive essays. After doing some research, I cam across WWE and all kinds of bells started going off. My question is about moving them into this kind of curriculum without setting them all behind. I can't, clearly, spend the next three years practicing narration and dictation with my 12 year old. I bought a copy of WWS 1 (which is amazing), but she's not ready for that either (mainly because much of it seems to assume a progression out of WWE). Would anyone care to offer some suggestions about working them into this methodology at these ages (I'm not as much worried about my 8 year old ... but the older kids). Thanks so much!
  7. We are new to WWE. My 7 year old 2nd graders are using WWE 1 and we are in the 4th week. They are fine with the copy work, but the narration not so much. I've posted before about my daughters' difficulties with listening/read-aloud time. It's something we are constantly working on, it is getting better, but they are just not in a place where they can listen to three or four paragraphs and write about it. They look at me like they don't know what to do and then there are tears and finally I have to pretty much come up with the sentence after coaxing some kind of thought out of them. It's frustrating, I'm not entirely sure it's doing anything for them and basically its just not working well. Anyone else had troubles with WWE? I'm trying to decide if I should stick it out and hope we get over a hump or if I should move on to something else? They aren't great writers so I really want something to work.
  8. I started out the year using Sonlight LA 4. We finished our 3rd week, and I am not happy. My daughter will be 9 next month, and we consider her a 4th grader. She hasn't had a lot of grammar and writing instruction. We've tried BJU English, but it doesn't seem to stick with her. After spending some time with samples... I think the FLL and WWE combination would be a good fit for both of us. I need placement help. I've looked at the "placement tests", but I guess I'm hoping for some confirmation from those who have been there and used that. FLL - I was considering using FLL 3 with her. She has had a basic introduction to the 8 parts of speech and 4 types of sentences. She has not had a lot of practice work to help her understand exactly what those mean and how to use them. She has never seen a diagrammed sentence. I think FLL 3 would be good. Agree? WWE - This is where I'm stuck. She struggles with remembering a sentence to write it down. (dictation) If I ask her to write 1 sentence, she asks me to repeat it several times. Her spelling is awful, so that doesn't help. She can provide a decent oral narration when asked, but I've never asked her to write one out. Anytime I ask her to do any writing that requires thought, she shuts down. --- So.... I was thinking she might benefit from level 2. Is she a bit too old for that level? Should I put her in level 3 to match up with FLL? *** Also, I'm considering using Spelling You See (Wild Tales) with her. I do not like AAS. We've tried it in the past. We used the first 2 1/2 levels, and it has not helped her to become a better speller. Using basic spelling lists with daily review doesn't work either. At best, she remembers about 70% of the words, and I'm not sure she could actually still spell them 2 weeks later. Thank you in advance for your opinions and wisdom!
  9. We are currently using WriteShop, which I just started this past week (we are new to homeschooling). I like it ok (I found it used at our local homeschool consignment shop) but I wish I had gone with WWE after reading reviews and seeing samples. I'm going to stick with WriteShop for the remainder of this school year (we are loosely following our public school schedule) and start WWE next year. My girls will be in second grade and one of them is a very reluctant writer and takes OT due to pencil grip and low muscle tone. Do you think WWE would be a good fit? And if so, which level? I'm not sure if I should start at level 1, since they aren't strong writers, or level 2 since they will be in second grade. Any thoughts? Thanks!
  10. Hi y'all, We just received a truckload of our own books that can't be sold in bookstores, since they have tiny dings, bends, or scratches on them (the content is unaffected). So we're selling them for 60% off the cover price. Writing With Ease, Story of the World, First Language Lessons, Writing With Skill, The Top-Secret Guide to Getting Your In-Laws to Stop Nagging You About Your Homeschooling Choices, and more! Ok, one of those may have been a joke. The books are at our office, not our warehouse, so you'll need to purchase them by phone. Call 1.877.322.3445 to find out what's available, and to buy! Justin from Peace Hill Press
  11. My soon to be sixth grader needs to build skills in composition. He needs to build his spelling and hand-writing abilities, and we are doing that this summer. He has not had formal grammar. Through a few fun things and Latin, he knows many parts of speech, types of sentences, end punctuation - the basics. He can capitalize a sentence and put a period at the end. He can narrate, summarize, rewrite in complete sentences - orally. He has done some copywork and dictation. We did the first third of IEW SWI-A. He did fine, but I didn't like it. He is pencil- and generally work-phobic. He says, "I know how to write," which he can orally. I know where I want to get him, but I'm not sure what to do/use to get there. Should I do WWE 3/4 with him until he can write on his own? At his level and personality, what grammar?
  12. Now in week 20 of WWE2, and my newly-8yo is crying nearly every day we do writing! He is very smart, but he has SPD and a fine motor delay and was recently diagnosed with dysgraphia (still wrapping my brain around that). He can copy a sentence or two, with pretty bad handwriting, and does great with the narrations and answering questions after the passages. But the dictations! They are becoming longer and more frequent and he's just not able to do them without a lot of time and incredible distress. Today he was supposed to write "'Your words are bold,' the king said to Alexander, 'but are you bold enough to mount the horse yourself?'" There was no way that was going to happen, so I only actually dictated "'Your words are bold,' the king said to Alexander," and it still ended in tears and a page of barely-legible words written in the wrong order and he never finished. I'm not sure what to do. Back track and then move more slowly? Continue in WWE2 but do copy work instead of the dictations? Ditch WWE for him alltogether and find something else for writing? (Like what??) He is a strong reader (school psych said 8th grade reading and comprehension level), speaks fluidly and can narrate and summarize very very well. But his thoughts have a hard time coming out of his hand. The dictations in WWE2 are beyond his present abilities.
  13. We have been faithfully following Writing With Ease and my 6yo is almost done with the first book. She has excelled with the book, she has learned to copy very well! At her best, her handwriting looks phenomenal! I am also very excited about her ability to recall information from reading. She regularly remembers and recalls more than me in life; she remembers so many details, words. It's great!! BUT When she writes original content she is not that fabulous. She is on par with an average or below average 1st grader according to what I can tell by looking at other first graders' work! This is bothering me SO MUCH! My intention is to keep my kids at the same academic level (hopefully better) as what they would be experiencing in schools. NOT OK Please share you experiences with the WWE and WWS books. Does it all come out ok in the end? Are there cases where it hasn't come out ok? I mean, my daughter is NOT on track to be spitting out a 5 paragraph essay in a year or two like the school kids will probably be doing!?
  14. My always-homeschooled son will be starting third grade at public school tomorrow. Today we were able to visit the school and briefly meet his teacher for the first time. I asked her if I could see the books they were using and have her tell me a little about what they were doing in each subject. Rather reluctantly (after I asked her twice), she brought me into the classroom and showed me the math and science books. I told her that I was particularly concerned about writing, as I wasn't sure if he was where the school would expect him to be (my son is currently at the beginning of WWE and struggles with and balks at that). She explained that they had just finished narrative-writing and that she would expect him to show up when he starts (which is tomorrow!) being able to write a good narrative. I thought to myself, "Okay, so that's not too bad ... he can tell me a good narrative from his SOTW lessons, he just never writes the entire thing himself, so that part will be something new for him." Then the teacher continued, "A full three-paragraph narrative with three, good paragraphs is what I would expect from him right now." Well ... she is probably going to faint when she sees the writing samples from WWE 2 that I left her, because I don't think he's ever written three sentences, let alone three paragraphs! She also said something about how they use Lucy Calkins' Writers Workshop. I am sorry to say that I made a visible face when I heard that. I read some of Calkins' stuff when I was working on my M.Ed, and if I remember correctly, it could not be more different than the WWE approach! I get the impression -- although I could be totally wrong -- that the Writer's Workshop stuff is all about "write about your feelings, write, write, write, it doesn't matter what, it doesn't how, just write lots and lots" and the kids write pages of garbage (or worse, spend a lot of time doodling and goofing off, since they can't or won't write for an hour every day!) (Anyone know more about it than I do?) Anyway ... other than the fact that I probably totally got off on the wrong foot with my son's new teacher ... I'm wondering if anyone has any advice about how to make this transition. How can a kid go from complaining and struggling with copywork and dictation of a sentence or two to suddenly writing three paragraphs off the top of his head?? Any ideas what we can do to make this easier for everyone involved? Thanks!
  15. In the wake of some health issues, I am starting to think of what dd9 needs to be doing in terms of writing. She has done WWE1-3. I bought WWE4, but it is just too much for her. Though she is bright and can remember the passages well, she has huge issues with writing. Nevertheless, I think she really needs dictation, just not on steroids ;) . I have considered gathering my own sentences using the WWE instructor text as a guide. But as I look at the sample for that book, I am not sure I understand how that would work. It appears to provide the passages for you, just as in the Student Text. I also am not sure I'll be able keep up with that level of teacher involvement. I am feeling a lot better, but I still have some bad days, and I still have numerous doctor's appointments. Someone has already suggested to me using the dictation resource that goes with Spelling Plus. I was wondering if anyone has any other suggestions for dictation?
  16. Hey y'all, Just a quick reminder that Peace Hill Press has lowered its prices by 20% on nearly everything in the store...and we've lowered the prices on our already-discounted "School in a Box" kits by 10%. No need to enter coupon codes, etc; the prices are already cut. This sale continues through Monday at noon Eastern time. Justin at PHP
  17. I thought I saw a Scope & Sequence chart for WWE Level 3 somewhere. Does anyone know where something like this might be? Checked the php website, but didn't find anything.
  18. My 1st grade dd struggles a lot with writing. She is reading at what I would probably consider a 2nd or 3rd grade level, but her handwriting is not good at all! I have been searching around for different writing programs that will start at the beginning with letter formation or simple copywork (no more than one sentence at a time) for her, but not sure which direction to go. We have done Handwriting Without Tears, and I like it okay, but I want something beyond just "here's a letter, write it 10 times"-- she does better if she can write something with a purpose.
  19. Sometimes our books are damaged in the printer-to-warehouse-to-bookstore journey, and we can no longer sell them at full price. But if you don't mind a bit of minor wear & tear (small scratches, etc), you can save money on all kinds of Peace Hill Press products! We keep a list of currently-available discounted books here. Since they're kept at our office, rather than at our warehouse, you'll need to order them by phone. Call us at 1.877.322.3445.
  20. In looking at the order of assignments in WWE1, I am noticing that the general pattern is copywork the first day, then narration based on that copywork the next. For example, "Pa owned a pig." and then read the section of Little House in the Big Woods where Pa owns a pig. Is there a reason for this order rather than reading the section first and then doing the copywork the next day? I am inclined for our purposes to switch them, but am curious if there is a good reason not to.
  21. I'm starting to accumulate materials for next year (DD will be in 1st) and was wondering what was the best way you have found to do WWE. I scored in the Scratch and Dent sale and got WWE1 workbook, FLL1, and SOTW1 Activity Guide. Both WWE and the activity guide seem like they have a ton of pages for student use. I saw you could either buy the additional pages pre-printed or get the PDF to print them yourself. What have you found to be the most effective way to get the pages? I don't really want to use the original because I have at least 1 more child who will need them in a couple of years. Also, with SOTW I am thinking DS (will be 4) will probably hang around us a bit while we're doing it so I would love to have the ability to copy some of the extra coloring pages. I saw that you're allowed to make as many copies as needed for your own family, but just copying the pages I have doesn't seem very cost effective since the local print places are about 10 cents per copy and I can get them printed online for about 2.5 cents a page.
  22. Hello all! My 8DD is really struggling with the longer dictations in WWE3 this year. Last year was great with shorter sentences. The 12-15 word dictations were a challenge, but rarely can she do the 16-20 word dictations in WWE3 with just 3 repetitions of the sentence(s). I've only been doing these dictations about twice a week (rather than the assigned 3) and do dictation from All About Spelling 4 on a third day (I usually do 2 sentences together to get up to 12-16 words, but these are simpler words=easier). I kept thinking it would get easier for her as the year progressed, but I've seen very little improvement. It still takes dictating the sentence at least 4 times with sometimes a 5th dictation. Any suggestions? Anyone else experienced the same thing? I've really enjoyed WWE, but my DD has expressed so much frustration this year (she's also had more difficulty with narrations this year but was doing great last year). I'm trying to decide what to do next year, because she has expressed a desire to do more writing (and not narrations and dictations). On a positive note, she really likes FLL3 and is doing really well with it. I usually skip the narrations and dictations there because of of everything else we are doing. I just took a moment to look at WWE4 an found this description from Peace Hill Press: Writing With Ease, Level 4 is the challenge level! Many students will be read to go on to an expository writing program, such as our Writing With Skill curriculum, after finishing Writing With Ease, Level 3. But some need a little more practice, confidence, and maturity. That's where Level 4 comes in. Has anyone skipped WWE4 and gone straight to WWS? To be honest, I don't think she's ready for it based on the diagnostic tool, but I can't help but cringe a little at thought of doing WWE4 with DD. I'd love some feedback, or if nothing else, simple encouragement would help. :)
  23. I'm not sure whether or not to buy WWE4 for A's fourth grade, and would love some advice on how to decide about this. I do own WWS1, both teacher and student guides. This year A's Language Arts skills is turning out to be a combination of alternating WWE3 & the writing projects for Classical Writing Aesop for writing, and combination of FLL3/MCT Grammar Island for grammar. It isn't overkill because we school year-round and use the programs judiciously, but I may not be able to continue this combination into 4th grade. I see payoffs for the WWE work and don't want to drop it in 4th grade but am concerned that WWE4 would be an onerous waste of time (folks seem to think the dictation length is really a lot to handle) if the child is able to summarize nicely -- he is a fairly good summarizer at the moment, and we're working at this so I expect he'll be just fine at WWE-style summarizing before 4th grade starts. If I want us to keep in touch with the SWBauer method of writing, would I be better off using WWE4 next year or starting WWS and using it at a gentle pace, probably half-pace? ideas on how you would decide?
  24. We are in WWE3, and I am incorporating Classical Writing Aesop because I'd like to use the CW program as a main writing program. This is for A., who is 8 and in third grade and is a quick study. However, I also hope to use WWS in 5th grade -- we school 6 days/week year-round, so this is feasible. Esp. given the WWS goal, is it worthwhile to use WWE for 3rd and 4th grades, or would writing time be better spent moving more quickly through CW? thanks in advance!
  25. My dc are working in WWE3. It is going fine, but I have a question about the dictation sentences. When they repeat them back to me it is not unusual for them to substitute synonyms or equivalent phrases. For instance "If you were on a world smaller than ours," might become "If you were on a planet smaller than ours," or "you could jump over high buildings" might be "you would be able to jump over tall buildings" I think some of these substitutions are fine, the meaning of the sentence is retained, they are holding the idea in their head, even if the wording is different. If the goal is proficient note-taking, we're good. Sometimes the word substitutions take a less familiar word like "feats" and replace it with the more familiar "powers" (Not a synonym, but correct in the context of the sentence). In that situation I correct the wording because I think learning the new vocabulary is important. Other times the substitution shortens the sentence - not allowed! Sometimes, though, I don't think it matters - tall vs. high for instance. Of course, I also have two students, and if they are each making small changes it can be hard to keep track of what is "correct" for each person. Have you run into this? What are your thoughts - require word-for-word duplication or allow some substitutions as long as the gist is the same?
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