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When writing a narrative essay should you write a rough draft of the story and then figure out what thesis might work(what your point of telling the story is) or do you think of the story first and then decide on a thesis before writing the story?
I think I have this same question regardless of whether the story will be invented or not, but I was thinking of real stories when I first asked.
This will probably be the first of many lame questions as I try to focus on teaching writing better.
For whatever it is worth I am working through Writing with a Thesis.
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I just sat down with a friend who is at the end of 8B and who had the same question. I compared Jacobs Geometry to what geometry is in 7A-8B. These are the topics that were missing (in addition to formal proofs): triangle congruence, triangle inequalities, circles(chords, inscribed angles, etc.), trigonometric ratios. That is from memory, I'm not positive about the triangle congruence. Everything else is covered as thoroughly as a high school Geometry text as near as I could tell without working the problems. I did leave through all of the pages and compared to Jacobs. What my friend plans to do is cover those topics using the Jacobs text and then start Algebra 2. Doing an entire Geometry book would be duplicating a lot.
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I definitely don't want to use the Rod and Staff 9 and 10 books but do want to do grammar. Maybe with an older text (Mother Tongue) or maybe using ACT/PSAT practice materials or Rhetorical Grammar or _______________
I have Vocabulary for the High School Student that I didn't use much with olders. Vocab workbooks always flop here but this child kind of likes workbooks so maybe I will pull that out. Or just have her look up and record a new word daily that she encounters in the wild.
Thanks for helping me think about this and for reminding me to pull out the WTM book! I have he 1st edition so may check out the newer one from the library.
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My rising 7th grader has completed Rod and Staff 8th Grammar. I always stop doing a formal grammar program after the 8th book though with all of my other children that has been after 8th grade. So now I am trying to figure out what to do with her next year.
This child will be continuing WWS 1 (starting in lesson 15 I think). We will be doing the art of Poetry at a slow pace with her older sister.
What other methods/routines should I think about?
Some kind of grammar review?
precis/summary work?
writing about literature?
analysis of writing somehow?
Analogies workbook - definitely going to continue this.
Thanks,
Kendall
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I had a young teen with a goal that didn't require college. I schooled him as though he were going to go to college. Maybe even required more because I knew it could be the last schooling he would get. We did convince him to go to college to have a back up and because even in his field (audio engineering) a college degree can open some doors(like working in the audio/lighting tech department at a university). School was hard for him and he only stayed in for 2 years. During that time he worked in audio at the college and in the field in the summers. He now has a full time job in that field and loves it. I would have liked for him to finish, but the bottom line is that they have to make those decisions when they are adults (and I use the term loosely LoL!). My job is to educate in such a way as to keep as many doors open as possible and to provide experiences to broaden horizons when I can. (These aren't my only educational goals, BTW!)
I learned a lot about how to keep my mouth shut, but at the same time I did share my concerns periodically.
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Thank you so much for the suggestions and ideas. I love seeing methods others are using. We are also using literature to correspond to the time period and I was going to have my girls do a timeline and some map work. Thinking about book such as the Albert Marrin books is one thing that got me thinking about this kind of plan. The other was my daughter's desire to keep reading the four volume set of The History of the English Speaking Peoples by Churchill. She enjoyed the one she read last year.
I hadn't thought about documentaries or Great Courses. I love the idea of letting them pursue rabbit trails on the World History side while moving steadily through the US portion.
Output has always been such a struggle for me. I tried letting my older ones choose and they struggled with that and they really ended up only reading and reading and reading in history and literature. There was a lot of good to that, but I want to do more of having them process on paper what they have read.
I am reading a book I saw recommended here called Engaging Ideas. https://www.amazon.com/Engaging-Ideas-Professors-Integrating-Jossey-Bass/dp/0787902039/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468758493&sr=8-2&keywords=engaging+ideas
I have that older edition. The local university library had it and I decided to purchase it after checking it out multiple times. It gives a lot of specific suggestions for writing in the content areas. I am going to try to get a list together of specific ideas that the girls can either choose from or loop through.
I just found these http://www.studentsfriend.com/sf/sf.html The downloads are free and the whole of world history from 1500 on is in 27 pages.
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We are using Paul Johnson A History of the American People for history this year. We will do half of the book this year and continue the following. I also wanted to do a brief world history alongside and had chosen a book. But I now want to cut that to just an outline of some sort so that they can read some other books. I'm not looking for high school level reading. Maybe I should look at the Kingfisher World History Encyclopedia. Do you have any other thoughts?
I'll probably have them use this along with making a timeline.
Thanks,
Kendall
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Any and all ideas are welcome. We are wide open at this time. Thank you for the ones you have shared so far. We hadn't heard of several of them and a few were 2nd recommendations which helps. Martin guitars is on our list for our guitar player. It is in Nazereth I think.
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We are planning a vacation for next summer and my daughter (who is leading the plan!) would like to know of fun, unique shops and attractions in PA. We will be near the Easton area and also in Philadelphia. We know about Independence hall and the Liberty Bell and Washington Crossing, Delaware River Gap, Lehigh Zoo (would you recommend it or the Philadelphia zoo?), Franklin Institute (I think this is the name of the children's museum type place-do you recommend it?)
Any other highly recommended places? The kids will be 9 to 19 next summer.
We have this neat marble store an hour away from us where you can watch them make a marble. She loved it and would love to find interesting shops while we are vacationing. Bookstores are included in that, of course!
Thanks,
Kendall
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I used it with a very sharp kid. Then I was going to go back to Apologia for the next one who struggles. The very sharp one talked me into sticking with Shepherd for his sister. I have altered it for her though. While she does read it all, I don't test it all. That does require some work on my part, though. I wish I had a better feel for what the minimum biology knowledge should be. My kids watched Biology 101 and loved it. I did not feel it was enough for high school, but I suppose you could add to it.
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I don't know what projects. I thought I would get water color paper and then whatever else I need. I do want to be able to do oil pastels, chalk pastes, markers, pencil, water color, some kind of other paint (recommendations on that are welcome also).
My plan is to use ideas from Art Projects for Kids http://artprojectsforkids.org/
Is there a bad/good brand of mixed media paper? Is there a weight or type of mixed media paper to look for?
Thanks!
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I want to do a better job of doing art projects for my kids. We organized the art supplies and we have NO paper(Aside from paper I use in the printer). So what 2 or 3 or 4 kinds, sizes, and brands/types of paper would you get? My kids are 8 and up.
Thanks,
Kendall
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Writing with a Thesis (among others) devotes a chapter to each different essay type: narrative, description, examples, process, comparison and contrast, cause and effect, division and classification, definition, argumentation.
It also explains that in reality many essays are mixed types. pg. xi 7th edition “These assignments are based on highly artificial writing patterns. The patterns overlap and are rarely encountered in their pure formâ€
Here are some questions floating about in my brain. Maybe they aren’t important questions to ask, but if you have thoughts about them I would love to hear them.
Is there a best order to teach them in?
Is there an easier to harder order?
Most used to least used?
Most valuable to least?
Do you agree that teaching them in isolation is best? quote from the book “Each pattern is best practiced and mastered by being treated at the start as an independent unitâ€
It is summer break and I have time for pondering... or maybe I am just avoiding digging in to the hard work of planning English...
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Have any of you used Philosophy Adventure by Farrell?
I'd love to hear about your experience.
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Thank you so much for the input. This has been very encouraging!
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Have you found renting textbooks on amazon to be pain free provided your student remembers to return them?
Right now it doesn't look like you can arrange a rental for the fall. Is the price likely to be higher later in the summer when you can rent them for fall?
Do you know when you can start renting for fall semester?
Is this a good option for books the student won't want to keep?
Thanks,
Kendall
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Thank you both for sharing your experience with it. We will try it this year.
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I just read this book cover to cover and I am not trying to figure out how to use it with 10th and maybe 9th next year. I have the 7th edition. Now I am going to try to actually write one of each type of essay. I've done a lot of reading about writing, but now I have a little time to try to write. For years I've been avoiding the actual writing by doing more interesting things like Calculus and Physics. But I don't have any of that to prepare for next year so I'm going to tackle writing.
I would love to hear opinions, ideas for using, experience, other sources for essays, anything you want to tell me!
Thanks,
Kendall
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I've been debating the same question though for 1600-1850 time period. I know I will use Paul Johnson A History of the American People. I had my recently graduated son read the same topic in each of 3 textbooks for world history. He had already told me he didn't like A short History by Harrison I think. I didn't love Spielvogel. So far he has chosen(for his sisters to use) The Pageant of World History over BJU World History and over Notgrass World History. My goals are to spend two years to hit US history hard with Paul Johnson and just use the world history to keep track briefly of what is going on in the rest of the world. So I don't need a college text unless it is more engaging and more well written. If I find something like that I would switch.
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Another vote for lifeprint. My 2 high schoolers have used lifeprint Lessons 1-60 which is roughly equivalent to 4 college semesters minus life practice (we get some of that locally). Most or all is available on his site for free or on his youtube channel. I did buy the CD and USB drive so we could do it without internet when needed.
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I used this with my first three children and will use it with my 4th and 5th kids starting Fall of 2017 or Spring of 2017 for one of the kids. I've never been tempted to do anything else. I have also always used Foerster precalculus. I don't know for sure that I will stick with that. One of my kids may need an easier text for precalc.
I found a set of assignments online somewhere when I did it with my first child, though I have not done it exactly as written. Unfortunately I haven't kept close track of what I actual ended up doing. That does change somewhat with each child, but I hope I keep track this time through so I'll have it for the others.
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I couldn't resist starting a thread about this in light of the math thread titled Making Math Stick and in light of the latest post in that thread in which Mike mentions Spacing Theory. I read this book over a year ago and thought I should really ponder and apply it, but it hasn't happened in deliberate ways. I think I have done a few things differently because of it. Have any of you read it? I need to reread and think about it again this summer.
To confuse matters there is also a book titled Made To Stick.
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I she a really strong reader? If so you could browse a college library if you've got one close. I didn't keep any titles unfortunately, but I browsed the shelves and brought home some books for my then junior. He was very interested in sound (and now is an audio engineer for a production company!) so we focused on books that included that topic. There were several that weren't textbooks and didn't have much of the math/formulas. I found what bits I read to be interesting.
I've used Elementary Physical Science by Huey in middle school. My kids liked it. Chapters were short and meaty I thought. There are a few questions at the end of each one which you wouldn't need to do. I would not consider it to be a textbook at all. And it is cheap on amazon!
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http://www.gimmesomeoven.com/baked-chicken-breast
I have been using this method for the last few months. We do the higher heat and find it takes about 25 min in our oven. I check them with a thermometer so that I don't overcook them. After the butter step I sprinkle and then rub cajun seasoning or garlic, salt, rosemary or you could do any spices you want.
I've found that the best way to pound them is to place them one at a time in a ziplock bag with the bottom of a small skillet (learned that from America's Test kitchen). I have cut up leftovers into small chunks and frozen them and used them later in pasta or on alfredo pizza.
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Narrative essays: decide thesis first or story first?
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I don't have time to respond much at the moment, but I wanted to say a quick thank you. This discussion has been incredibly helpful.